TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD - Page 21

**AragakiAyase** · 01-31-2017, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

How's that? My followup there was to disappear for a day. My followup here is to get right back on the game as soon as I got up and had a cup of tea.. What do mean by this? cause it sorta seems like you're trying to paint a bad picture of me based on untrue statements and misinformation

I'm talking about V I don't understand how you get that this is about you

**AragakiAyase** · 01-31-2017, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

... Again, how? If I wasnt going to push you, you asking me to would force me into making a push I didn't believe in, which would lead to contradictions that you could exploit.
And if I was going to push you, then your post is meaningless drivel designed to make you look like you're generating info

It seemed like you had a certain degree of conviction as to my scuminess, and seeing how you'd continue that push would give me insight to your mindset

Ofc if you didn't want to keep pushing me then it's moot

ShadoWolfe · 01-31-2017, 04:27 PM

Just got caught up. I gotta go for a little over an hour but there's a fair bit on mellon/haku that I wanna look at when I'm back.
I'm inclined to think Mellon is town, but we'll see. I've played two (3?) with her as wolf and each time all she did was drop in once or twice a phase with some thoughts and get dismissed to fly UTR. She's actively posting and reads pretty genuine so far, so I'm leaning her town. Sunfan seems to have taken an observer role after all the self-meta posts, which is more of what I expected from the getgo. I'm not convinced he's town but nothing he's said has struck me otherwise.
I'd like to see AA respond to my posts before making a better judgment on him, but I'm not liking him so far.
K bb in 1-2hrs

**Hakulyte** · 01-31-2017, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

K bb in 1-2hrs

Phase ends in 1.5 hours, but okay.

ShadoWolfe · 01-31-2017, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Phase ends in 1.5 hours, but okay.

No, it ends tomorrow.
Right?

**Hakulyte** · 01-31-2017, 04:37 PM

I thought we were tomorrow today, nvm.

**Hakulyte** · 01-31-2017, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Just got caught up. I gotta go for a little over an hour but there's a fair bit on mellon/haku that I wanna look at when I'm back.
I'm inclined to think Mellon is town, but we'll see. I've played two (3?) with her as wolf and each time all she did was drop in once or twice a phase with some thoughts and get dismissed to fly UTR. She's actively posting and reads pretty genuine so far, so I'm leaning her town.

My head hurts because you're taking a stance while telling us that you didn't really look into it much.

**AragakiAyase** · 01-31-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Oh ffs AA I wasn't cherrypicking. I literally quoted the quotes relevant to where you were acting weird and said why I thought they were weird. You're accusing me of cherrypicking because I didn't include inD's answer. Idc if he answered yes, no, or "I think you're the moon", I care about the behavior you exhibited in the parts that I quoted, which is why I quoted them.
I'd still like an answer to the previous question btw

also want to respond to this

It sure looked like cherry picking, because based on how you framed your post it seemed like I was asking a redundant question in "do you think I'm pocketing you?"

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Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I think I'm starting to scumlean AA. The more I read his progression here the weirder it feels to me.
Immediately responding with "I've done this before" to dismiss inD's suspicion looks like he thought about that before saying it in the first place, and the repetition of "do you think I'm pocketing you?" also strikes me as odd because there's really only one obvious answer to that, and it was implied as a definite possibility of inD's "unnerving" comment.

when in fact it actually wasn't, as indheart's response shows

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Originally Posted by inDheart

your read was on page 1 at 80ppp

i don't think you're pocketing me with it, no

do you see where I'm coming from?

**AragakiAyase** · 01-31-2017, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

... Again, how? If I wasnt going to push you, you asking me to would force me into making a push I didn't believe in, which would lead to contradictions that you could exploit.
And if I was going to push you, then your post is meaningless drivel designed to make you look like you're generating info

to elaborate further on this, how you react to me saying this can also be telling

didn't get too much out of it this time though

**AragakiAyase** · 01-31-2017, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thesunfan

my d0 is weak and I think you're both capable of fooling me for, at minimum, the length of d0

I'm more confident that jrodd is town than you, but I'm often wrong on him early

I see

can you talk more about why xel's thing about V feels forced? what would you expect from town xel?

**AragakiAyase** · 01-31-2017, 05:09 PM

feels weird to be having a solid townread on haku this game

**AragakiAyase** · 01-31-2017, 05:12 PM

is there anyone townreading V? does anyone have a read on meno?

**mellonxcollie** · 01-31-2017, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakulyte

1.) Humans have no reasons to project town because they're humans.
2.) The 3 quotes I picked are indirectly projecting town.
3.) Why are you projecting town in these quotes?

Wolves and humans equally want to avoid being mislynched, so everybody in this game wants to project town. Do you think my projections of humanness seem fake or something? That's one thing but you haven't even mentioned that. It's obvious that any player would try to project town.

In this game I am town so that's why I am projecting town. You want me to come into this game and tell a bunch of lies???

Anyways it seems like you are just too lazy to come up with fake reasoning against me so continue to ask me all you want why I am projecting humanness like it isn't the most obvious question in the world

**AragakiAyase** · 01-31-2017, 05:20 PM

shado what do you think of the rest of my posts that you don't seem to be focusing on?

**Hakulyte** · 01-31-2017, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Wolves and humans equally want to avoid being mislynched, so everybody in this game wants to project town. Do you think my projections of humanness seem fake or something? That's one thing but you haven't even mentioned that. It's obvious that any player would try to project town.

In this game I am town so that's why I am projecting town. You want me to come into this game and tell a bunch of lies???

Anyways it seems like you are just too lazy to come up with fake reasoning against me so continue to ask me all you want why I am projecting humanness like it isn't the most obvious question in the world

**mellonxcollie** · 01-31-2017, 05:22 PM

Nice self portrait, haku

**thesunfan** · 01-31-2017, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I see

can you talk more about why xel's thing about V feels forced? what would you expect from town xel?

its not really what I would or wouldn't expect from xel, its not something that I think most people say without it being forced

V is... concerning or whatever the exact words were don't really feel genuine. Yeah, V hadn't posted much, but concerning is a pretty broad word, especially to put at the end of a short thought like that. He hasn't really seemed too concerned by V either.

**thesunfan** · 01-31-2017, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

is there anyone townreading V? does anyone have a read on meno?

I think V could be a wolf if I'm wrong on Xel
he hasn't posted much at all and that's getting to be more and more of his wolf tell

ShadoWolfe · 01-31-2017, 05:33 PM

Back for 30-40mins

**Hakulyte** · 01-31-2017, 05:36 PM

I'm bored.

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Raeko's Meta - The Guide

Step 0: Stay utr, but post genuine enough looking things.
***: Ignore Variations unless forced into talking about something.
**: If under pressure, post more so players think you're town.

Variation #1

Step 1: Mention you don't understand.
Step 2: Make other player explain.
Step 3: Repeat step 1.

Variation #2

Step 1: Mention you don't understand.
Step 2: Make other player explain.
Step 3: Explain something different from initial situation, but still related.
Step 4: Mention you don't understand based on Step 3 new element.

Variation #3

Step 1: Change topic to something everyone agrees will make sense.
Step 2: Explain how Step 1 is a true statement to get back some legitimacy.
Step 3: Go back to Variation #1 or Variation #2.

Repeat all 3 variations until

A) Everyone gets bored of seeing same shit over and over.
B) Other player fails to deliver undeniable proof. (hint: there's no proof in a game of assumptions until card flips)

01-31-2017, 04:37 PM	#406
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,525	Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD I thought we were tomorrow today, nvm.

01-31-2017, 05:09 PM	#411
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 27 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD feels weird to be having a solid townread on haku this game __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

01-31-2017, 05:12 PM	#412
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 27 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD is there anyone townreading V? does anyone have a read on meno? __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

01-31-2017, 05:20 PM	#414
AragakiAyase Waifus Join Date: Apr 2015 Age: 27 Posts: 961	Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD shado what do you think of the rest of my posts that you don't seem to be focusing on? __________________ pikakirby123 reincarnated

01-31-2017, 05:36 PM	#420
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,525	Re: TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD I'm bored. ----- Raeko's Meta - The Guide Step 0: Stay utr, but post genuine enough looking things. *: Ignore Variations unless forced into talking about something. : If under pressure, post more so players think you're town. Variation #1 Step 1: Mention you don't understand. Step 2: Make other player explain. Step 3: Repeat step 1. Variation #2 Step 1: Mention you don't understand. Step 2: Make other player explain. Step 3: Explain something different from initial situation, but still related. Step 4: Mention you don't understand based on Step 3 new element. Variation #3 Step 1: Change topic to something everyone agrees will make sense. Step 2: Explain how Step 1 is a true statement to get back some legitimacy. Step 3: Go back to Variation #1 or Variation #2. Repeat all 3 variations until A) Everyone gets bored of seeing same shit over and over. B) Other player fails to deliver undeniable proof. (hint: there's no proof in a game of assumptions until card flips)

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