Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] - Page 20

**bmah** · 08-1-2009, 01:39 PM

I guess I should point out the general breakdown of the types of people out on FFR:

About 80% of people on FFR rarely post or do not post on the forums and probably would not care either way what happens. They play casually and recognition from others is hardly important.

About 18% of people on FFR post on forums and may range from a beginner to very decent at the game. They would most likely oppose the idea of an FGO token.

About 2% of people on FFR post on forums and are extremely good at the game. They would most likely agree with the idea of a an FGO token.

So people in the latter two categories would care more because they it's the 20% of the community that would actually give personal recognition and make them feel better about it in terms of personal achievements. If 80% of people don't even post here and just play for fun, maybe you can get a sense that recognition should be a complementary reward rather than a necessity. That's how I think of it - I'm not really worried if there's a new token that most people can't get.

R3v0lut10nm4st3r11 · 08-1-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmah

I guess I should point out the general breakdown of the types of people out on FFR:

About 80% of people on FFR rarely post or do not post on the forums and probably would not care either way what happens. They play casually and recognition from others is hardly important.

About 18% of people on FFR post on forums and may range from a beginner to very decent at the game. They would most likely oppose the idea of an FGO token.

About 2% of people on FFR post on forums and are extremely good at the game. They would most likely agree with the idea of a an FGO token.

So people in the latter two categories would care more because they it's the 20% of the community that would actually give personal recognition and make them feel better about it in terms of personal achievements.

20%?, you said 2% that are actually good would accept this. Your assuming everyone decently good that posts on the forums would accept this? Assumption much?

**bmah** · 08-1-2009, 01:45 PM

Read my previous post, I've added a little more. And I said that it's about maybe 20% of FFR members who post on the forums (and hence would give recognition by posting here and say "good job"), and the rest anonymously play on their own, or do not post on the forums. I did not say that 20% of people would accept this token.

**EAGAMES** · 08-1-2009, 01:49 PM

Updated the supporter's list.

MinaciousGrace · 08-1-2009, 02:31 PM

what's with the sudden burst of posts

sup rajdaddy

**qqwref** · 08-1-2009, 05:26 PM

I don't count as a supporter?

stargroup · 08-2-2009, 12:39 AM

okay this is stupid for multiple reasons

1. otaku speedvibe is not a fun song to begin with

2. for the idiots who think number 1 is subjective, otaku speedvibe does not generate a fun chart

3. for the idiots who think numbers 1 and 2 are subjective, the edit difficulty is stupid. there isn't supposed to be a difficulty above oni, edit is only there for EDITING. you're taking a technical part of stepmania and you're making become this. just make a completely different file

4. you can't really make otaku speedvibe any harder than it already is without making it complete bs

5. we don't really need this token in the first place. people will whine that they can't get it and more drama will ensue. effort just isn't worth it. people who do become this good will naturally play more. but, this is the weakest of the reasons I have listed, so if really necessary you can ignore this

6. isn't the point of ffr to try and stay away from being like sm? if you put in heavy oni and edit then what is the difference between these two games besides mods and timing windows

7. THINK ABOUT THIS. IS THIS REALLY A GOOD IDEA

OneHandNow · 08-2-2009, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stargroup

okay this is stupid for multiple reasons

1. otaku speedvibe is not a fun song to begin with

2. for the idiots who think number 1 is subjective, otaku speedvibe does not generate a fun chart

3. for the idiots who think numbers 1 and 2 are subjective, the edit difficulty is stupid. there isn't supposed to be a difficulty above oni, edit is only there for EDITING. you're taking a technical part of stepmania and you're making become this. just make a completely different file

4. you can't really make otaku speedvibe any harder than it already is without making it complete bs

5. we don't really need this token in the first place. people will whine that they can't get it and more drama will ensue. effort just isn't worth it. people who do become this good will naturally play more. but, this is the weakest of the reasons I have listed, so if really necessary you can ignore this

6. isn't the point of ffr to try and stay away from being like sm? if you put in heavy oni and edit then what is the difference between these two games besides mods and timing windows

7. THINK ABOUT THIS. IS THIS REALLY A GOOD IDEA

this is so true.
maybe we should add like uhmm..
vertex gamma [oni] or something? haha i dont know

mhss1992 · 08-2-2009, 08:46 AM

I want to support too.
But I agree that it would be better with another song, and not Otaku Speedvibe, otherwise, it's not going to be a reward, something fun and worth the effort, just a symbol of status.

OneHandNow · 08-2-2009, 08:49 AM

Right, mhss1992?
We should totally support a different FUN song for another [Oni] or [Guru] token

Like say Vertex Delta

mhss1992 · 08-2-2009, 08:54 AM

You know... I'm tired of vertexes, they are too similar, I was thinking something more like Lawn Wake XI.

OneHandNow · 08-2-2009, 09:08 AM

How about AOAO by DJ Sharpnel? LOL

**Ghakimx** · 08-2-2009, 09:13 AM

-1.

I support all of Stargroup's points.

OneHandNow · 08-2-2009, 09:15 AM

We mean a NEW song for a NEW token with NEW steps for AAAing a GURU difficulty song.. or some different requirement.

R3v0lut10nm4st3r11 · 08-2-2009, 09:18 AM

Edit: Stargroup put it pretty well, as did my posts with ea before this
-1, sorry ea

**MikeShinoda12345** · 08-2-2009, 09:27 AM

Stargroup, I support your points, but your sig contradicts you.

**DossarLX ODI** · 08-2-2009, 09:33 AM

Actually, the long vertex gamma from Silvia could be a good idea. Vertex delta and vertex gamma (hulk style) are just sped up versions of vertex beta.

stargroup · 08-2-2009, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeShinoda12345

Stargroup, I support your points, but your sig contradicts you.

no it doesn't

you know what's funny? you get like more than 80 supporters and all it takes is one person to make a smart comment and voila, suddenly it's not such a hot idea anymore

you wanna know why? maybe it's cause this idea sucks

MinaciousGrace · 08-2-2009, 09:51 AM

or people are bandwagoning because it's stargroup

pretty sure every single one of those points has been brought up and addressed prior

except for the ffr vs. sm one but lets face it the more ffr differs from sm the more people just ****ing play sm instead rofl

stargroup · 08-2-2009, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

or people are bandwagoning because it's stargroup

pretty sure every single one of those points has been brought up and addressed prior

except for the ffr vs. sm one but lets face it the more ffr differs from sm the more people just ****ing play sm instead rofl

pretty sure you're right, but no one had the nads to say their opinions so outright or people would've noticed

also about the last statement, this was similar to my argument a while back, except someone said something like "there will always be people who play ffr and not sm" which I never understood why you would say that duh it's obvious but irrelevant

so as much as I prefer ffr to be independent, some things just need to be copied from sm because they are the basis of how rhythm games work, and you can't really avoid that when both game have the exact same play method

08-1-2009, 01:39 PM	#381
bmah shots FIRED Global Moderator, User Support, Judge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 36 Posts: 8,448	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] I guess I should point out the general breakdown of the types of people out on FFR: About 80% of people on FFR rarely post or do not post on the forums and probably would not care either way what happens. They play casually and recognition from others is hardly important. About 18% of people on FFR post on forums and may range from a beginner to very decent at the game. They would most likely oppose the idea of an FGO token. About 2% of people on FFR post on forums and are extremely good at the game. They would most likely agree with the idea of a an FGO token. So people in the latter two categories would care more because they it's the 20% of the community that would actually give personal recognition and make them feel better about it in terms of personal achievements. If 80% of people don't even post here and just play for fun, maybe you can get a sense that recognition should be a complementary reward rather than a necessity. That's how I think of it - I'm not really worried if there's a new token that most people can't get. Last edited by bmah; 08-1-2009 at 01:42 PM..

08-1-2009, 01:45 PM	#383
bmah shots FIRED Global Moderator, User Support, Judge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 36 Posts: 8,448	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] Read my previous post, I've added a little more. And I said that it's about maybe 20% of FFR members who post on the forums (and hence would give recognition by posting here and say "good job"), and the rest anonymously play on their own, or do not post on the forums. I did not say that 20% of people would accept this token. Last edited by bmah; 08-1-2009 at 01:47 PM..

08-1-2009, 02:31 PM	#385
MinaciousGrace FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: nima Posts: 4,278	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] what's with the sudden burst of posts sup rajdaddy

08-1-2009, 05:26 PM	#386
qqwref stepmania archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 4,090	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] I don't count as a supporter? __________________ Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81) Best SDG: PANTS (86) Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

08-2-2009, 12:39 AM	#387
stargroup FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 974	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] okay this is stupid for multiple reasons 1. otaku speedvibe is not a fun song to begin with 2. for the idiots who think number 1 is subjective, otaku speedvibe does not generate a fun chart 3. for the idiots who think numbers 1 and 2 are subjective, the edit difficulty is stupid. there isn't supposed to be a difficulty above oni, edit is only there for EDITING. you're taking a technical part of stepmania and you're making become this. just make a completely different file 4. you can't really make otaku speedvibe any harder than it already is without making it complete bs 5. we don't really need this token in the first place. people will whine that they can't get it and more drama will ensue. effort just isn't worth it. people who do become this good will naturally play more. but, this is the weakest of the reasons I have listed, so if really necessary you can ignore this 6. isn't the point of ffr to try and stay away from being like sm? if you put in heavy oni and edit then what is the difference between these two games besides mods and timing windows 7. THINK ABOUT THIS. IS THIS REALLY A GOOD IDEA __________________ (´･ω･`)

08-2-2009, 08:46 AM	#389
mhss1992 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] I want to support too. But I agree that it would be better with another song, and not Otaku Speedvibe, otherwise, it's not going to be a reward, something fun and worth the effort, just a symbol of status. __________________ jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0 Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats) Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday. Last edited by mhss1992; 08-2-2009 at 08:52 AM..

08-2-2009, 08:49 AM	#390
OneHandNow Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,305	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] Right, mhss1992? We should totally support a different FUN song for another [Oni] or [Guru] token Like say Vertex Delta

08-2-2009, 08:54 AM	#391
mhss1992 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] You know... I'm tired of vertexes, they are too similar, I was thinking something more like Lawn Wake XI. __________________ jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0 Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats) Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday. Last edited by mhss1992; 08-2-2009 at 09:02 AM..

08-2-2009, 09:08 AM	#392
OneHandNow Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,305	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] How about AOAO by DJ Sharpnel? LOL

08-2-2009, 09:13 AM	#393
Ghakimx Cutie&Handshaking Sounds Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Xingapore Posts: 1,594	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] -1. I support all of Stargroup's points. __________________ I AM ASHAMED OF MY STUPIDITY AND MUST COMMIT SEPPUKU. FORGIVE ME, FFR. Ninjas NEVER die. Now on a 30 kill streak. Last edited by Ghakimx; 08-2-2009 at 09:17 AM..

08-2-2009, 09:15 AM	#394
OneHandNow Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,305	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] We mean a NEW song for a NEW token with NEW steps for AAAing a GURU difficulty song.. or some different requirement.

08-2-2009, 09:18 AM	#395
R3v0lut10nm4st3r11 FFR Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: tampa, florida Age: 29 Posts: 556	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] Edit: Stargroup put it pretty well, as did my posts with ea before this -1, sorry ea __________________ Top 3 finishes 2nd Place-Can you Beat Dragon's Fury Tournament (expert) 2nd Place-Dragon Fury's Team Tournament (advanced) 3rd Place-Phantom/Slayer Rock Fest (advanced) This might be the stupidest comment I have ever heard in my life. Last edited by R3v0lut10nm4st3r11; 08-2-2009 at 09:41 AM..

08-2-2009, 09:27 AM	#396
MikeShinoda12345 \(^o^)/ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Age: 27 Posts: 1,889	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] Stargroup, I support your points, but your sig contradicts you.

08-2-2009, 09:33 AM	#397
DossarLX ODI Batch Manager Game Manager, Song Release Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Age: 29 Posts: 14,867	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] Actually, the long vertex gamma from Silvia could be a good idea. Vertex delta and vertex gamma (hulk style) are just sped up versions of vertex beta.

08-2-2009, 09:51 AM	#399
MinaciousGrace FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: nima Posts: 4,278	Re: Otaku Speedvibe [EDIT] or people are bandwagoning because it's stargroup pretty sure every single one of those points has been brought up and addressed prior except for the ffr vs. sm one but lets face it the more ffr differs from sm the more people just ****ing play sm instead rofl

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