The best anime of all time, a masterpiece of mecha...TTGL

[pokelda]

Y halo thar

[pokelda]

Grave of the fireflies is also superb.

[sjoecool1991]

I personally don't like anime AT ALL.
But I did sorta like FMA.
And all I have seen of One Piece is the ****ty americanized version.

[Crazygamer008]

i watched some of it and im not really into the mech anime like that...

[OnixRose]

Originally Posted by damanwithdaskillz

The anime I used to think were the best of all time were blood+, Air Gear (manga), Tenjho Tenge (manga), and Fullmetal alchemist, Naruto was a fave but not the greatest anime ever.

aside from FMA and naruto that list isn't very good so that makes me wonder how good this will be, that and it's mecha which I think eva and gundam have swept clean

[arsonistsgetallthegirls]

ghost in the shell, elfen lied, & FLCL - FTW

[tsugomaru]

What? WHAT?! WHAT?!?!

One Piece is not a meaningless pile of crap. You clearly did not watch the Japanese version, and if you did, now all your opinions to me are void. If you can't even understand the simple moral that the author lays out for everyone in One Piece, you cannot possibly understand anything about anything.

EDIT:

Okay, now that I have calmed down from my initial shock, I understand what happened a little bit. You watched the English version, I can tell because you're quoting the American theme song. However, if you are going to let something as minor as a name get in your way of watching One Piece, you have no right to make claims about how good an anime is. One Piece is filled with action that far surpasses any I've seen before. Although none of it is what I would like to call "scary violence", every character fighting style is different and always interesting to watch. If you want to get analytical about it, everything each character does in a fight is meaningful. Which is far from what you claim, meaningless.

One Piece doesn't make you cry? You can't be serious. I rarely cry or shed a tear for most books because they fail to portray a message to give me a reason to be sad. I've lost few people that are important to me in my life so it's hard to feel or even imagine the pain of a dying parent or friend. Books, comics, and movies may try to illustrate to me what happens when events like these happen, but few have succeeded. One Piece is one of the few comics that have illustrated it in a way that has meaning to me.

It's hard to describe every single aspect of One Piece that makes it so great. The two examples I gave were the easiest for me to think. If I had more time, I would most definitely written more, but I just don't have that luxury. All I have to say is One Piece is far from the worse and the reasons you gave are not legitimate reasons to give proof that the show sucks.

~Tsugomaru

[Cj_leonine]

I like yakitate Japan. It makes me want to make the Turtle Japan.

[damanwithdaskillz]

Originally Posted by Turboyoshi

Have you watched the Animu version of it? A.k.a. the americanized crappy version of it.

Because if you have, thats the wrong version. You should at least READ it.
Now i'm not in any way trying to argue with you about this show, i'm only saying if the only version you've seen is the americanized version of it, you have the completely wrong impression about one piece

I only watch shows in Japanese, not America, ONLY Japanese, I do like the opening Bon Voyage! That's about the only good thing out of One Piece

[damanwithdaskillz]

Originally Posted by tsugomaru

What? WHAT?! WHAT?!?!

One Piece is not a meaningless pile of crap. You clearly did not watch the Japanese version, and if you did, now all your opinions to me are void. If you can't even understand the simple moral that the author lays out for everyone in One Piece, you cannot possibly understand anything about anything.

EDIT:

Okay, now that I have calmed down from my initial shock, I understand what happened a little bit. You watched the English version, I can tell because you're quoting the American theme song. However, if you are going to let something as minor as a name get in your way of watching One Piece, you have no right to make claims about how good an anime is. One Piece is filled with action that far surpasses any I've seen before. Although none of it is what I would like to call "scary violence", every character fighting style is different and always interesting to watch. If you want to get analytical about it, everything each character does in a fight is meaningful. Which is far from what you claim, meaningless.

One Piece doesn't make you cry? You can't be serious. I rarely cry or shed a tear for most books because they fail to portray a message to give me a reason to be sad. I've lost few people that are important to me in my life so it's hard to feel or even imagine the pain of a dying parent or friend. Books, comics, and movies may try to illustrate to me what happens when events like these happen, but few have succeeded. One Piece is one of the few comics that have illustrated it in a way that has meaning to me.

It's hard to describe every single aspect of One Piece that makes it so great. The two examples I gave were the easiest for me to think. If I had more time, I would most definitely written more, but I just don't have that luxury. All I have to say is One Piece is far from the worse and the reasons you gave are not legitimate reasons to give proof that the show sucks.

~Tsugomaru

I've watched the Japanese version many times, I still don't like it, at all

[damanwithdaskillz]

Originally Posted by OnixRose

aside from FMA and naruto that list isn't very good so that makes me wonder how good this will be, that and it's mecha which I think eva and gundam have swept clean

Okay, I hate mecha's, but this one is special, no, it's beyond special, if you haven't reached episode 8 or 15, then you don't know the meaning of it, please watch some more of it, and compared to other shows (and yes Blood+ and Air Gear are some of the best shows ever) it is terrific, and how can you say that One Piece makes you cry? The show isn't made in that way, it's not a show that you'd cry in, it's like Naruto, you don't cry in Naruto, only once did I feel touched and that's when Haku died and Zabuza was talking to him, nothing else, all the way up to Peine and Jiraiya, nothing else was sad

But this, everytime I see an image of Kamina and hear Simon say, "Believe in me who believes in you, that's a saying my brother used to say, my great brother who I miss very much", it's just sad, and when Rossiu tries to commit suicide, it's a deep show, so is Evangalion but that ended up being wierd after the End of Evangalion the movie, when Asuka and Shinji wre the last people alive on earth

[vvav]

Originally Posted by OnixRose

aside from FMA and naruto that list isn't very good so that makes me wonder how good this will be, that and it's mecha which I think eva and gundam have swept clean

FMA and Naruto are by far the worst in that list...Anyway, I'll probably watch TTGL after I'm done with Boogiepop Phantom, Hidamari Sketch, and Lucky Star just because it's animated by Gainax, and everything I've seen by them (FLCL and Evangelion so far) has been awesome.

[sjoecool1991]

Originally Posted by vvav

FMA and Naruto are by far the worst in that list...Anyway, I'll probably watch TTGL after I'm done with Boogiepop Phantom, Hidamari Sketch, and Lucky Star just because it's animated by Gainax, and everything I've seen by them (FLCL and Evangelion so far) has been awesome.

FMA was actually really good.
Naruto sucks ass.

[All_That_Chaz]

flcl pwns all.

and are we making fun of daman again? neat. epic triple post o.o;;;

[tsugomaru]

One Piece was made that way. I'm certain of it. There's a reason why Oda doesn't kill off many characters and when it does, it's monumental. He wrote One Piece to tell a story and he does it so well. Underneath all of the supposed silliness, it's a very, very deep show.

EDIT:

Spoilerish.

God darn it. I'm under a time crunch again, so I will be swift about this. You did not watch One Piece all the way, over and over again as you may suggest. If you did, you may understand it a little better. It talks about the importance of friendship. It took ~400 chapters before the first "main character" died and this character didn't play a major role in the story, in fact, it wasn't even human, it was a ship! However, if you read the entire thing, you still have feelings for this ship, this inanimate object, which has only been in the crew to serve it's purpose, and in some ways, a loyal friend. When the ship can no longer be used and is burnt, we realize that there will be no more adventures for the ship and only memories are left. Most authors fail to give the same affect with people, for Oda to do this with a non-living object is truly, amazing.

The second moment I can think of is related to the signature of my quote. If you read that chapter, you should know what it means.

~Tsugomaru

[damanwithdaskillz]

Originally Posted by tsugomaru

One Piece was made that way. I'm certain of it. There's a reason why Oda doesn't kill off many characters and when it does, it's monumental. He wrote One Piece to tell a story and he does it so well. Underneath all of the supposed silliness, it's a very, very deep show.

EDIT:

Spoilerish.

God darn it. I'm under a time crunch again, so I will be swift about this. You did not watch One Piece all the way, over and over again as you may suggest. If you did, you may understand it a little better. It talks about the importance of friendship. It took ~400 chapters before the first "main character" died and this character didn't play a major role in the story, in fact, it wasn't even human, it was a ship! However, if you read the entire thing, you still have feelings for this ship, this inanimate object, which has only been in the crew to serve it's purpose, and in some ways, a loyal friend. When the ship can no longer be used and is burnt, we realize that there will be no more adventures for the ship and only memories are left. Most authors fail to give the same affect with people, for Oda to do this with a non-living object is truly, amazing.

The second moment I can think of is related to the signature of my quote. If you read that chapter, you should know what it means.

~Tsugomaru

I agree with your sig, but that's not the message of One Piece, and for christ sakes it's just a ship, the message in your sig is represented by the Schiff in Blood+, they all die knowing no one will remember them, thinking that they will be erased from history, because of the Thorn, they know the will die and cannot stop it, and once it appears, they wait for their deaths, Carmen talks to Moses about how death was something he never feared, but knowing he will die, he is scared, not scared of death, but that no one will remember him, after he is moments from death, him and Moses watch the sunset, thus commiting suicide and drifting into nothingness, Saya keeps a promise from Lulu to always remember them, so that their existence would not be meaningless,

[cC@Zz]

Originally Posted by damanwithdaskillz

that's not the message of One Piece

Of course.

You of all people would know.

[magirocker]

Originally Posted by damanwithdaskillz

FMA and Code Geass I'll agree with, but One Peice, no, terrible show, has no deepness, thought, beauty, or tragedy, no abstract ideas about life and death, blood+ and TTGL all have that, all One Piece is is: Ga go, Ga go Ga go! Ho Ho! Set Saile for One Piece! Because some idiot named Monkey D. Luffy (what kind of ****ty name is that?) wants to become King of the Pirates in the Grand Land, ga go, ga go set sail for One Piece!

yeah, that's a gay ass show, squeek can go f*** himself if he says One Piece rocks, the only good thing about it is it has no fillers, but neither does Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, which will make you laugh, cry, and question yourself over and over, just like blood+, and Air Gear (manga), Tenjho Tenge (manga). Anyone who thinks One Piece is one of the best are just Jap fanboy n00bs, I am an ultimate Otaku, trust me, I know what is good, and One Piece just doesn't make the cut, actually Naruto doesn't either, but Deathnote does!

dude, sorry, I'm your friend, but this is why you get flamed so much

[tsugomaru]

Yah, I'm going to have to go with cC@Zz. If you follow One Piece, you'll start to realize that each individual arc talks about it's own little story and lesson. They're all really fun and often simple to get. When I debate with my friends at school about this, this is usually direction I like to head in because many of my friends at school believe a story is only good based on two things: the art and the content of the story (content to my school friends usually leans towards the theme, everyone here is a snobby-smart-kid, even me sometimes, so don't believe everything I say). They claim One Piece has a lack of meaning when it actually has full of it. They say Naruto is the pinnacle of meaning, what true friendship really is. I find that One Piece presents this message a lot better than Naruto does and it's not even a major over-arcing theme.

Oh wait, Naruto and One Piece sharing themes? That's impossible. One message per story plz. I find it okay for other animes to present the same message. I can quite literally say the same thing you just did, the message presented in Blood+ was presented in One Piece. I can guarantee you that the the authors of both stories found these life revelations in another story they read when they were younger. In short, you can't say a theme originally and truly belonged to another anime.

One Piece is not a ship. I just talked about a moment that involved a ship. There are more than one moment in One Piece. I'd like to say One Piece is many things and it's difficult to coral it all into one little short statement because it's just that large.

~Tsugomaru

[sjoecool1991]

Damanwithdaskills' opinion has no meaning because he likes Naruto.
Also, I don't like One Piece, mostly because all I have seen of it is the Americanized version.
I will watch the real One Piece when I have the time.
Then I will state my opinion of it.