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Old 07-12-2007, 04:34 PM   #21
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:51 PM   #22
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I have an idea:

Why don't we create a separate genre for all the old off sync files and then take them off average ranking so that way people won't whine about them but they'll all still be there for those who want to look into FFR history?

Sound like a good idea?
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:33 PM   #23
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There should be more of those songs made by Synth. Just to see how much he has improved in his step file skills.
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:40 PM   #24
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If we're going to remove any simfiles let's start with zephon and shihen tehe.
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Shihen is good.

Zephon I don't really care about, mainly because I never played it and because I hate Takecore.
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:52 PM   #25
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Uhh lol too bad you don't agree with the step author who made it.

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They could seriously be 2000x better, but it doesn't even come close to Zaghurim or Anobody's versions. Only reason why you probably like it is because of the song- The steps don't match it at all.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:24 PM   #26
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If we're going to remove any simfiles let's start with zephon and shihen tehe.
Okay, I don't disagree with that lol.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:37 PM   #27
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I have an idea:

Why don't we create a separate genre for all the old off sync files and then take them off average ranking so that way people won't whine about them but they'll all still be there for those who want to look into FFR history?

Sound like a good idea?
Would be interesting to have an FFR History Genre.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:38 PM   #28
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These song should always be there. They are unique and are part of FFR history. There is no reson why they should be re-stepped because even if they have some "error" in them you only have to concantre yourself and hit the notes, that not too hard...
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:50 AM   #29
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I definitely think they should be in an oldschool genre or something like that. Even moreso as the song list number increases in the future.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:53 AM   #30
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I think these files should at least be removed from the average rank. They're not classic. They were ****ty then and they're still ****ty now. There's nothing more annoying than trying to AAA one of these things to bring your av rank down and have to deal with hordes of **** that shouldn't be in the game D:

I mean, they can stay in the game. I agree about the history bit, as I was around back on the old ffr playing this stuff. But I mean, we're long past that now, and these files, when being played to try to score well on are just annoying as hell.
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:57 AM   #31
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Actually, Shihen's steps are very good.

Stfu, you people.

Edit: except for the up down jumps in the beginning.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:48 AM   #32
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These song should always be there. They are unique and are part of FFR history. There is no reson why they should be re-stepped because even if they have some "error" in them you only have to concantre yourself and hit the notes, that not too hard...
You can't actually hit all the notes in Chrono Trigger.

Proof.

You can see sash hit all the visible arrows in the jacks. But there are arrows which are in the same spot which are completely impossible to hit, and these go calmly past, without a care in the world. Just there to make you shake in anger every time you see them.

I have been patient in increasing my average rank for around 8/10 of all the crappy files -- I've probably AAA'd about half of them. Yet, I still think it would be better if we re-stepped these songs and took them out of the game.

You cannot make people feel what people have felt in the past. Sure they can experience the same things, but they will never be able to experience the same things in the same contexts. There are too many variables in human existence for this to be true. Keeping the songs from the old era might be a little bit interesting for some people, but it cannot rekindle the exact same feelings that those in the past have felt. You're not preserving old experiences, you're creating new ones.

The game could do with fewer songs. We have what, 250? 300? More on the way? Who's going to play all these? Who's going to patiently go through their average rank and look at each of the for ranks 300+ songs to see which ones he can decrease? Why not just stop adding songs and take out those which don't really help FFR at all?

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Old 07-18-2007, 02:55 AM   #33
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Meh... i dont think ill get around to those files anytime soon, so i dont really have an opinion on this topic yet.

Just lemme have some more fun with av misses LoL
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:14 AM   #34
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Default Re: Are We Ever Going To Take Out FFR's Trash?

I agree but its still not impossible to PFC them. If you really want your average rank to go down, you need to suck it up and just play it. Why the hell does everyone hate 100BB? Its such an easy aaa, there's two hard parts that dont even last for a second, holy ****. Taking them off the lvlrank list would be a slap in the face for everyone that didnt whine like babies, and that took the time to actually give them a chance and just play them like any other file.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:40 AM   #35
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I hardly think saying "Well, we've really improved standards, and made all of the files much more synced, and much more centred around your actual skill corresponding to how you play, so lets either fix up, or remove all of the old stuff from the site's youth" is a -slap in the face- to anybody.

I can understand not wanting to delete them, but really, as the site exists longer and longer, and more new people show up who don't understand the transition, more and more people will be left thinking "Why is all this crap in here"

I mean, the options are a) Re-step the old out of sync stuff, b) Move the old out of sync stuff to a seperate "old stuff" genre and have it not count in the stats, or c) Constantly be having this thread and this discussion forever as more new people show up and have no idea why all of the poorly stepped files are still here.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:25 AM   #36
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I think an "old stuff" genre would be a good idea, personally.

Re-stepping/removing them entirely isn't really an option, though.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:40 AM   #37
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Put them in an old songs genre and remove the ones that have glitched or messed up notes from the level ranks. There are some older songs that are out of sync but are still easily playable with a little concentration. Just get rid of the songs with notes like in 100BB or FF7 and certainly Chrono.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:51 AM   #38
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I second this motion for a 'FFR History' genre.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:51 AM   #39
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yea, i think a history genre would be kinda neat =P
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:54 AM   #40
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So all blue note songs for "old" genre, or just for really offsync ones?
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