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**Cenright** · 01-21-2004, 03:46 PM

E-mule is another pretty good file sharing program.

The current Adaware is 6.0, so that might narrow your search.

I make your computer perform better, you might want to check what kind of processes you have going on start up. Some people have tons of things start up with the computer when you can just as easily start them when needed. Another way to cut back on erroneous processes is to edit your "services" in "administrative tools." This gets very technical and very advanced, so you don't want to touch things that you aren't sure about.

MelodicTrance · 01-21-2004, 04:14 PM

fuck kazzaa
just get morpheius cus it has such a bitchen name!

IAMTHEEVILBEAN · 01-21-2004, 04:15 PM

To bad you spelled it wrong.

MelodicTrance · 01-21-2004, 04:28 PM

**87x** · 01-21-2004, 04:41 PM

dudes.. dont even worry about the P2P file sharing things right now.. the reason i need to make me comp run faster is my step dad and brother want to reformat the hard drive... VERY VERY BAD... i have things on here that wont fit on cd's that i dont want to redownload... and i have over 25 gigs of shit in my personal folder.. they think reformatting the computer will get rid of all unwanted things and the comp will be back to normal, just as fast as it was when we first got it.. although this is true.. i dont want to make 30+ backup discs of just my own shit.. so i need methods of makeing the comp run like its supposed to so we dont have to go through all the other stuff.....

and no.. overclocking my processor isn't an option..

MelodicTrance · 01-21-2004, 05:22 PM

OVERCLOCK
dont worry
fires are for pussies
if you believe in the heart of the overclock no fire will start
I overclocked an athalon...
It kicks ass

**87x** · 01-21-2004, 05:27 PM

no.. overclock = bad.. and plus... my brother and step dad wouldn't keep it cooled off enough and that would fuck up the whole comp beyond repair...

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Anticrombie0909 · 01-21-2004, 06:53 PM

Best things you can do to make your comp faster is to delete some stuff from your hard drive, overclocking works depending on how your comp handles it (it works much better on Athlon then Pentium, though), but basically I'd say get a new processor. You can't really upgrade your RAM, a 1.3 won't be able to handle much more than 512 effectively. I'd say go buy yourself a new processor...you can get an AMD Athlon 2400+ for...round $100, I think. If you're willing to put a bit more money into it, I'd say bump it up to a 2800 or 3000. BTW, what kind of computer are you running? Because if it's something like HP, you'll have to buy a new motherboard and it just isnt' worth it...I just happen to like AMD more than Pentium because it's better for multitasking and a LOT cheaper.

VxDx · 01-21-2004, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anticrombie0909

Best things you can do to make your comp faster is to delete some stuff from your hard drive, overclocking works depending on how your comp handles it (it works much better on Athlon then Pentium, though), but basically I'd say get a new processor. You can't really upgrade your RAM, a 1.3 won't be able to handle much more than 512 effectively. I'd say go buy yourself a new processor...you can get an AMD Athlon 2400+ for...round $100, I think. If you're willing to put a bit more money into it, I'd say bump it up to a 2800 or 3000. BTW, what kind of computer are you running? Because if it's something like HP, you'll have to buy a new motherboard and it just isnt' worth it...I just happen to like AMD more than Pentium because it's better for multitasking and a LOT cheaper.

AHHHHH, SO WRONG.

1. deleting stuff from your hard drive will not speed up your computer. Defragmenting will, but minimally.

2. Pentium overclocking can often be better than Athalon. Similar to the way an XP 2500+ has been known to get stable 200x11 clock speed (3200+) a Pentium 4 2.4c has been known to get 2.8 ghz stable.
Furthermore, overclocking is not a solution to speeding programs up noticibly.

3. Amount of ram is not dependant on processor speed or type.

4. No matter where he got his computer he'd have to upgrade his motherboard if he wants to put a Athalon chip in.

5. DO NOT GET A 2400+. Get a 2500+ instead, cheaper, faster, 512kb L2 cache, 33mhz FSB not 266, rock solid 3200+ speed overclocking (I am and have been running this for a while)

**87x** · 01-21-2004, 07:11 PM

To Cenright:
yea.... you guessed it.. its an HP.. oh.. and its a 1.6 ghz not a 1.3ghz.. i was wrong before.. will fix that..

so with the HP... and needing a new processor... whats up on that??.. what do i need and what am i going to be spending.. don't worry about price... thats not really and issue...

*EDIT*
To VXDX:
so.. an overclocked 2500+ wont melt create temps hot enough to melt my comp.. mind you that my cpu is setting inside a wooden case with a closed door and runs all day long with only a single fan...

the case im tlaking about is part of a computer desk...

and this
"512kb L2 cache, 33mhz FSB"
means nothing to me... i don't understand... explain in lamons terms..

VxDx · 01-21-2004, 07:48 PM

Well, anything will get hot if not ventalated. As such, I would not suggest overclocking for you at all. The idea behind getting a 2500+ is that it, along with the 2800+, 3000+, and 3200+ have the newer "barton" cpu core. What that means for you, is that these can support faster memory (333mhz FSB = PC 2700 DDR memory or better), but also have more on chip memory (twice as much)(512kb L2 cache) for storing instructions waiting to be processed. that basically means overall better performance in everything. the best part of all is that the 2500+ costs as much as the older chips and much less than comparable pentium chips, and still can perform and be upgraded rather easily.

You won't get the kind of performance boost for price that you want by buying new, since you will be needing to upgrade all your main system components to get even a moderate boost. I'd suggets just "cleaning" your operating system. that is, defragment your hard drive, have less things running and have less things start up at boot.

Anticrombie0909 · 01-21-2004, 07:48 PM

Quote:

1. deleting stuff from your hard drive will not speed up your computer. Defragmenting will, but minimally.

I know it doesn't help much, but I was trying to give every solution I thought of. And if you get rid of like, you know, EVERYTHING, it will run significantly faster.

Quote:

2. Pentium overclocking can often be better than Athalon. Similar to the way an XP 2500+ has been known to get stable 200x11 clock speed (3200+) a Pentium 4 2.4c has been known to get 2.8 ghz stable.
Furthermore, overclocking is not a solution to speeding programs up noticibly.

The difference is that Athlon speed is determined differently from Pentium. So the Athlon 64 bit, for example, which is the fastest consumer computer on the market, literally translates into about a 2.4 ghz, but of course the speed is determined differently. So if you're looking to run high end programs, then Pentium would overclock more successfully, but otherwise the change is greater in an Athlon. My friend has a 64 bit and overclocked it to the macs, it runs a lot faster (in proportion) then when we overclocked my dad's P4.

Quote:

3. Amount of ram is not dependant on processor speed or type.

I know that, but a 1.3 (I thought at the time) is not going to be able to handle more than 512. You could put another stick in, but it's not going to be able to use 1024 to it's full potential, so my thinking behind that is that he should save his money. And more ram does equal a faster computer (usually).

**Moogy** · 01-21-2004, 07:53 PM

You basically have two options here :

1. Upgrade/Overclock your computer
2. Bite the bullet and format.

Number 2 is probably better, as it sounds like your computer is good to begin with. Be a man and BURN THOSE DISCS!%Y$%%@^

VxDx · 01-21-2004, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anticrombie0909

The difference is that Athlon speed is determined differently from Pentium. So the Athlon 64 bit, for example, which is the fastest consumer computer on the market, literally translates into about a 2.4 ghz, but of course the speed is determined differently. So if you're looking to run high end programs, then Pentium would overclock more successfully, but otherwise the change is greater in an Athlon. My friend has a 64 bit and overclocked it to the macs, it runs a lot faster (in proportion) then when we overclocked my dad's P4.

? I don't think (no offense, for once I'm really not trying to be a jackass) that you really know what you are talking about. Pentiums and Athalons can overclock, in general, the same amounts on average.

Furthermore, that Athalon 64 (I include the FX in the 64 bit designation) is nice and all, but it really is pretty evenly matched, if not a bit worse than the P4 EE.

Just wondering, but what speed and type of Athalon 64 is your friend running, what is his overclocked speed, and what kind of cooling does he have? It's also possible that you weren't overclocking ver efficiently on your "dad's P4" or that he has lesser cooling or that you just got the screwjob when it comes to actual die quality.

Anticrombie0909 · 01-21-2004, 08:03 PM

What I was trying to say is that the speed is measured differently between the two. Best way I can think to describe it is like gears on a bike...Pentium is like a high gear, where it does less pedals but each pedal does more, whereas the Athlon is like a lower gear, with more pedals and each pedal doing less. The way they run is different, so the way they overclock is different...god, this make sense in my head, but I'm trying to figure out how to put it in words...meh, never mind.

**87x** · 01-21-2004, 08:04 PM

hmm.. well if i decided to just upgrade my 1.6 ghz.. to.. lets say a 3+ ghz processor what new parts would i need and would it be worth it... remember... im looking for speed.. for comparison i got 700+ songs for SM its usually takes somewhere between 2 - 4 minutes to load it up... im looking to get that down to 30 seconds to a minute... how would i acheive that..

**Moogy** · 01-21-2004, 08:05 PM

It's not that complicated. Either something is faster or it's not.

VxDx · 01-21-2004, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 87x

hmm.. well if i decided to just upgrade my 1.6 ghz.. to.. lets say a 3+ ghz processor what new parts would i need and would it be worth it... remember... im looking for speed.. for comparison i got 700+ songs for SM its usually takes somewhere between 2 - 4 minutes to load it up... im looking to get that down to 30 seconds to a minute... how would i acheive that..

To load things like that faster you need a faster HDD, faster and more RAM (about 512 or more) and a moderately fast processor.

Mine loads 150 songs in about a second...

**87x** · 01-21-2004, 08:59 PM

right.. well look at my specs..

1.6ghz p
512 ram
80 gig hd
which do i need to change to get the results i want?

01-21-2004, 03:46 PM	#21
Cenright You thought I was a GUY?! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaumont (A town with 25 times fewer people than this site) Age: 38 Posts: 3,139	E-mule is another pretty good file sharing program. The current Adaware is 6.0, so that might narrow your search. I make your computer perform better, you might want to check what kind of processes you have going on start up. Some people have tons of things start up with the computer when you can just as easily start them when needed. Another way to cut back on erroneous processes is to edit your "services" in "administrative tools." This gets very technical and very advanced, so you don't want to touch things that you aren't sure about. __________________ http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...Cube_in_55.mpg

01-21-2004, 04:14 PM	#22
MelodicTrance FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: a glass cube. Posts: 296	fuck kazzaa just get morpheius cus it has such a bitchen name! __________________ ohaithar

01-21-2004, 04:28 PM	#24
MelodicTrance FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: a glass cube. Posts: 296	stfu __________________ ohaithar

01-21-2004, 04:41 PM	#25
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,379	dudes.. dont even worry about the P2P file sharing things right now.. the reason i need to make me comp run faster is my step dad and brother want to reformat the hard drive... VERY VERY BAD... i have things on here that wont fit on cd's that i dont want to redownload... and i have over 25 gigs of shit in my personal folder.. they think reformatting the computer will get rid of all unwanted things and the comp will be back to normal, just as fast as it was when we first got it.. although this is true.. i dont want to make 30+ backup discs of just my own shit.. so i need methods of makeing the comp run like its supposed to so we dont have to go through all the other stuff..... and no.. overclocking my processor isn't an option.. __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

01-21-2004, 05:22 PM	#26
MelodicTrance FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: a glass cube. Posts: 296	OVERCLOCK dont worry fires are for pussies if you believe in the heart of the overclock no fire will start I overclocked an athalon... It kicks ass __________________ ohaithar

01-21-2004, 04:15 PM	#23
IAMTHEEVILBEAN FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,078	To bad you spelled it wrong.

01-21-2004, 05:27 PM	#27
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,379	no.. overclock = bad.. and plus... my brother and step dad wouldn't keep it cooled off enough and that would fuck up the whole comp beyond repair... __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

01-21-2004, 06:31 PM	#28
hydrojakep FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Earth. Age: 34 Posts: 2,293	http://security.kolla.de/ Spybot DL. http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html Spyware blaster, dl too ok download both of those. Spybot works slightly better than ad-aware, and spyware blaster makes it so more Spyware wont go on. __________________

01-21-2004, 06:53 PM	#29
Anticrombie0909 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,683	Best things you can do to make your comp faster is to delete some stuff from your hard drive, overclocking works depending on how your comp handles it (it works much better on Athlon then Pentium, though), but basically I'd say get a new processor. You can't really upgrade your RAM, a 1.3 won't be able to handle much more than 512 effectively. I'd say go buy yourself a new processor...you can get an AMD Athlon 2400+ for...round $100, I think. If you're willing to put a bit more money into it, I'd say bump it up to a 2800 or 3000. BTW, what kind of computer are you running? Because if it's something like HP, you'll have to buy a new motherboard and it just isnt' worth it...I just happen to like AMD more than Pentium because it's better for multitasking and a LOT cheaper.

01-21-2004, 07:11 PM	#31
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,379	To Cenright: yea.... you guessed it.. its an HP.. oh.. and its a 1.6 ghz not a 1.3ghz.. i was wrong before.. will fix that.. so with the HP... and needing a new processor... whats up on that??.. what do i need and what am i going to be spending.. don't worry about price... thats not really and issue... EDIT To VXDX: so.. an overclocked 2500+ wont melt create temps hot enough to melt my comp.. mind you that my cpu is setting inside a wooden case with a closed door and runs all day long with only a single fan... the case im tlaking about is part of a computer desk... and this "512kb L2 cache, 33mhz FSB" means nothing to me... i don't understand... explain in lamons terms.. __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

01-21-2004, 07:48 PM	#32
VxDx FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,871	Well, anything will get hot if not ventalated. As such, I would not suggest overclocking for you at all. The idea behind getting a 2500+ is that it, along with the 2800+, 3000+, and 3200+ have the newer "barton" cpu core. What that means for you, is that these can support faster memory (333mhz FSB = PC 2700 DDR memory or better), but also have more on chip memory (twice as much)(512kb L2 cache) for storing instructions waiting to be processed. that basically means overall better performance in everything. the best part of all is that the 2500+ costs as much as the older chips and much less than comparable pentium chips, and still can perform and be upgraded rather easily. You won't get the kind of performance boost for price that you want by buying new, since you will be needing to upgrade all your main system components to get even a moderate boost. I'd suggets just "cleaning" your operating system. that is, defragment your hard drive, have less things running and have less things start up at boot.

01-21-2004, 07:53 PM	#34
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	You basically have two options here : 1. Upgrade/Overclock your computer 2. Bite the bullet and format. Number 2 is probably better, as it sounds like your computer is good to begin with. Be a man and BURN THOSE DISCS!%Y$%%@^ __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

01-21-2004, 08:03 PM	#36
Anticrombie0909 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,683	What I was trying to say is that the speed is measured differently between the two. Best way I can think to describe it is like gears on a bike...Pentium is like a high gear, where it does less pedals but each pedal does more, whereas the Athlon is like a lower gear, with more pedals and each pedal doing less. The way they run is different, so the way they overclock is different...god, this make sense in my head, but I'm trying to figure out how to put it in words...meh, never mind.

01-21-2004, 08:04 PM	#37
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,379	hmm.. well if i decided to just upgrade my 1.6 ghz.. to.. lets say a 3+ ghz processor what new parts would i need and would it be worth it... remember... im looking for speed.. for comparison i got 700+ songs for SM its usually takes somewhere between 2 - 4 minutes to load it up... im looking to get that down to 30 seconds to a minute... how would i acheive that.. __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

01-21-2004, 08:05 PM	#38
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	It's not that complicated. Either something is faster or it's not. __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

01-21-2004, 08:59 PM	#40
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,379	right.. well look at my specs.. 1.6ghz p 512 ram 80 gig hd which do i need to change to get the results i want? __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

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