MS Guild Business

[Pumble]

Relax, Fallen, the leader won't make any big decisions by themself anyways.

1) yeah i'm still Kracked ingame
2) Haven't ever talked with Pat, but i'm going to say banditcom anyways, he actually wants to be the leader and can handle it
3) you be trippin' if you don' say Arbiter (Serf style)
4) Yes, 25 people min = 200k each, and i even say this being horribly poor. It gives the guild a better rep and shows that we're 4srs, because you can bet any other large guild will have one, if only just for the e-penis. srsly.

[Afrobean]

Ok, bandit, you seem awfully gungho about this so, as long as you agree to not give out your pass to anyone else and get those who already have it to give to to no one else I suppose I'll accept it without any quarrel.

Besides, if something guild related comes up that needs attention, we can bug ignite or robby too. Sorta like my plan before except a LOT less people will have access and it will be people who I don't really know as well that do have access.

[emccky]

voting for Banditcom and the arbitor stuff.

[Tonberry_Kid]

1) IGN-BandTonberry
2) Tokzic, because he's the only one who hasn't been a dick to me...
3) Greek alphabet...Only because I'm greek ^o^
4) Indifferent about the emblem...But I couldn't pay the dues for it though >_>

[-Fallen-]

Tokzic shouldn't even be running for leader seeing as he is still a ms "noob" and people are still getting to know him whereas Jason has been around for at least 3 years now and been on MS since the beggining.

Whether he chooses to share his account or not is none of your business Afro. He can do whatever he wants.

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by -Fallen-

Tokzic shouldn't even be running for leader

You barely know me. And once again, this shouldn't be Pick Your Favourite High Level, because amount of hours spent mashing a key is one of the furthest things from being an important leader trait. Don't think I'm just saying that because I'm lacking in it - Oni has the same opinion.

But it looks like you guys are going to win anyway.

[-Fallen-]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

You barely know me. And once again, this shouldn't be Pick Your Favourite High Level, because amount of hours spent mashing a key is one of the furthest things from being an important leader trait. Don't think I'm just saying that because I'm lacking in it - Oni has the same opinion.

But it looks like you guys are going to win anyway.

Big deal if Jason plays a lot? That means something at least. He at least plays hardcore and that's good. He'll always be around to include accept new members willing to pay to get in etc etc... He is a lot older than most of you especially you Tokzic (6 year difference?) He's is more suitted for the leader role all together.

[vashthestampede0987]

More like, he's known around the crowd of people better because he's been around longer.

I could be a leader....If I were more active and less distracted =D

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by -Fallen-

Big deal if Jason plays a lot? That means something at least. He at least plays hardcore and that's good. He'll always be around to include accept new members willing to pay to get in etc etc... He is a lot older than most of you especially you Tokzic (6 year difference?) He's is more suitted for the leader role all together.

I think L41 in 5 months with a sibling playing equal time to me until a few weeks ago qualifies as hardcore. I don't understand your second point at all - he'll be around to let in new members? I think any of us would do that as leader. Lastly, age really has nothing to do with this at all.

If you're trying to make me back out of the voting, no. If you're trying to get more votes for banditcom and company, the more power to you.

[vashthestampede0987]

Tokzic, I'm sure you'd make a fine leader and all, but it's just really the fact that he's been around the forums longer, knowing the members and such better. Btw, Jason is level 74 in about 6 months.

[Tokzic]

Like I said, my brother was annoying and hogged the computer like crazy, and banditcom has a shared account.

And man, it's really sounding like I have something against him. I think Jason's great, and I won't mind at all if he's leader, but I know I can do a great job at this. Otherwise I would not bother running.

And like I said again, it looks like he's going to win anyway. XD

[-Fallen-]

What does him sharing an account with anybody have to do with anything? Pat only started playing around level 50 really. Jason did everything up until then by himself which is still higher than half of the people on FFR right now. They are both great players and felt like teaming up, it's nobody's business whether they choose to share or not.

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by -Fallen-

it's nobody's business whether they choose to share or not.

Until they become the leader of a guild.

[-Fallen-]

I'll repeat myself again..

What does him sharing an account with anybody have to do with anything?

The account has 2 owners. Ownership 50/50, I hope you understand this? Which means you can't do nothing about it and it won't change and therefore have nothing to do with anything.

It's like saying..

"Sorry guys but if you are not the ONLY person logging into your account logging in from YOUR household you are not allowed to join the guild. "

[Tokzic]

Seriously, this discussion is going in circles. I say we drop it and stop cluttering the thread.

[-Fallen-]

Well you havn't answered the question, oh well.

[banditcom]

Robby, it's ok man. XD

And yea.. I played by myself until 50, then Pat has helped playing. Again the distribution, for training, has been 75% me, 22% Pat, 3% Robby (after hitting 50)... Something like that.. I don't know...

I also stopped for a long time like around 20% into level 43... After not quite a month and a half, people finally caught up. A week or two later they started to pass me... I started to playing, and beat them all to 50. XD Then I actually got into training, and with Pat helping some and Robby helping a few times, leveling became quicker...

[Tokzic]

Fine, I'll tie up the loose end before I throw this metaphorical widget away.

Like others have already said, someone can be very worthy of trust and leadership, but if someone else can take control of their body through some supernatural internets means, suddenly the trust isn't quite there anymore. We've all had little-no contact with Pat and really can't tell for ourselves if he has all the qualities Jason does.

[ghost_of_eb]

Robby, the fact that you still can't understand why account sharing is a concern to everybody continues to boggle my mind. Sometimes you just really don't get things that are just so obvious. You seem to have a warped perception of....well, damn near everything.

ANYWHO, I think it's fair enough to say that Arbiter, Imperator, Patrician, Plebian, Serf wins as far as rankings go. As for the leader election, I'm not sure, but was that Afro saying he's stepping down or that he's okay with losing in case he does? I haven't talked to him about it personally, but I dunno. He didn't seem like he really wanted to lead to begin with, so I wouldn't be surprised if he backed out now that he's up there in votes.

[Afrobean]

I'm not sure, but was that Afro saying he's stepping down or that he's okay with losing in case he does?

Ok with losing.

But since Jason said nothing of not giving out his password to anyone else, and I heard nothing of the sort from robby or pat (actually robby sounds like he'd be perfectly fine with giving out the pass based on his lack of understanding the unfairness of account sharing).

Actually, take this post as saying that I'm now greatly interested in being the leader. I will be on as much as Jason (probably more than Jason, but less than all three users combined...) I have a giving nature and am usually willing to help (and once I get HS and door I'm sure you'll all be clamoring for my help). Also, I get about 1 mil per level, and I don't really have any plans on buying anything until 75+ (and I really don't think I'll be willing to pay so much for a dark ritual anyway...), so if people need money, I'd have no real problem fronting them. And realistically, you guys are saying you want someone who's active on both FFR and MS... well I'm probably the most active individual in MS and one of the most active forum members.

And since many of you have brought up age as a factor (I don't see how it matters...), I'm a senior in high school. I'm going to be 18 at the end of the month. I'm not exactly young. That doesn't really matter though. The thing that really matters is level of maturity. And while I might not be the most accurate measurer of my own maturity, I can say that I do feel that I am extremely mature.

The only way I can see me being unnable to function as a guild leader is if it has a 100 fame requirement. And if that's the case, banditcom can be our only choice as of right now, anyway, right? Or does Oni have 100 fame?

PS ellipsises in parenthesis are rly kewl~