If God created man in the picture of himself.....

[QreepyBORIS]

You are arguing that pain is not good.

I am arguing that since God created pain, pain is good.

[xxbananas4u314xx]

you can all argue about whether there is a God or not, but in the end none our opinions about things mean nothing. Being a strong Christian i have the faith that there is a God. Well actually, its not hard to have faith at all. There are medical breakthroughs and miracles everyday that shows God does exist. Maybe if you don't understand that there is a God is because you haven't taken the time to open up your heart. And no matter what anyone can ever say to me my mind will never change, probably because the biggest miracle i've seen in my lifetime is the ones i've seen in myself as well as the people closest to me since Christ has been into our lives. You can be angry at me and curse me off or whatever u feel nessacary to do, but no matter what u do, i'll still love all of u guyz with Christs love, thats exactly what he wants all Christians to do. Though there may be struggles at times, theres always hope, a hope thats greater then anything. No matter what your going through or the terrible things that go on in this world God is there for u.
Ps: about the destruction and everything, the old testament clearly states that our God is a wrathful God plainly because he hates evil. Whenever there is an evil source during the times before Christ, you would often see many cities destroyed and many people killed. This is only because God simply hates evil people and works. Luckily, God is also a merciful God and that's why he sent jesus to cleanse us of our sins so that we won't have to face his wrath, and so we are cleansed into sinless beings, hense he has no use for his wrath. Plus, i am merely a human, i cannot explain God's plan and yet trust him. God Bless all of u

[eyespewgreekfire]

As a response to the above, how can their be a source of evil if god created anything? What I am getting at is that if god created everything, he must have created evil as well. I just think that this is a rather glaring inconsitancy. Also, thats not to say that I despise religion. The post above me shows the kind of caring person it can create. After reading that there, I am pretty sure bananas is a pretty nice guy.

[QreepyBORIS]

God and people have different views of what is evil.

[Tsuteto]

I'm just not even going to get started upon things after reading this. I mean... half of what people say is true, half isn't. I'm not saying that everything I would say would be true, but I'm at least willing to defend if need be what would need to be.

Oh, and if any of you are wondering, I'm mormon (preffered term is LDS (Latter Day Saint) if you will, but you don't have to say that)

[blahblah18]

Personally I am not relgious, but I like to think there is a greater entity out there.
People that say there's prooff one way or the other are flat-out wrong.. .thats the whole point, its why it is called faith.
THERE CAN BE NO PROOF ONE WAY OR THE OTHER... Having studied general tenets in quite a few religions, I like the way that it seems a good amount of the Jewish faith is not based on the word of God or of specific actions, but rather what their interpretation is supposed to be for your everyday life. The Bible / Qu'ran / Joseph Smith's Tablets / whatever , were all written by men
This makes them
A) Fallible
B) Interpretations
C) To be read like a history textbook written about 400 years after the events in it took place.
D) To then not be taken literally but rather as a way to live your life and to think about the deeper questions.

I believe philosophy and religion shoudl come together more often.

I hate scientists that use their explanations fo physics and chemistry to disprove God's existence, for it does no such thing. There are those that argue that the ridiculously complex laws of these sciences only act as further proof that God must exist. But really, it deosnt' show one way or the other.

[Tsuteto]

Yeah, and practically all scientists have said that at one point or another, there was some higher being... or something like that. I'd have to ask my brother about this again.

[Wayfaerer_]

Originally Posted by eyespewgreekfire

As a response to the above, how can their be a source of evil if god created anything? What I am getting at is that if god created everything, he must have created evil as well.

God is for choices. He did not creat evil, but the former angel that came to be the devil chose to be evil. He is what stands for most of the "bad" things in this world. Of course, with your statement that pain is bad, I do not think so. Good things can come from bad things.

Going back to your statement that pain is bad, consider this situation. Say I was ignorant to the fact that a burning stove can damage my hand if I lay it there, and there was no pain. If he hand got burned bad enough I would not have use of it for the rest of my life. If I feel pain when I lay my hand on a stove though, it will alert me to the danger. So pain can actually be good in this instance.

Edit - Oh, I know what you are getting at Tsuteto, there is about a 1 to 1 billion chance that our universe could be balanced to where it would not deystroy itself. Therefore giving evidence that there is a possibility of a higher being.

[alainbryden]

Originally Posted by xxbananas4u314xx

There are medical breakthroughs and miracles everyday that shows God does exist.

Of course, because god makes these medical breakthroughs and puts them in the heads of the humans to whom he gave the right to think for themselves. God also gave us the medical breakthrough to play God with genes. Thankyou Scien... I mean God. You are truly existant. Welcome to ffr.

[veld]

I think as the years passed by, our skin colors started to differ. I learned it in public high school, 9th grade, history class. The teacher was talking about how our DNA started to split or something. We adapted to different enviroments on this planet, like extreme hot and cold weather, etc.

I guess it's part of being human.

And, who knows, maybe God and Jesus had some really really really good tan. :P

[zildjian133]

The reason I believe god doesn't exist is because I think there's suffient evidence that human life was created without god. Also back in the days of Jesus all the miracles that Jesus did have almost all be proven to be extreme coincidences. Like when he parted the Sea or whatever, theres a chance that at that time there could have been an extreme drought causing there to be no water in that area... Oh well who cares... No one is going to prove anything here. This happens to be all opinionated...

[snickers411]

The O- God has never messed up. He is perfect- everything about Him. The great flood was made on purpose- Since he made man to have their own will, they chose to sin, and the world sinned, so He started over. Yes, He could do anything, he could have stopped them from sinning, but God gave man a choice whether to follow Him and sadly, many of us have chosen to reject God's wonderful gift of life.
Anyway, when God said he created us in His image, I think he meant he gave us the ability to love, to have feelings, etc. God the Father and The Holy Spirit (as in the Trinity) do not have an image. But God the Son (Jesus) was most likely like others in the Middle East area.

[alainbryden]

snickers knows all this as an objective fact because he is the messiah.

[Wayfaerer_]

Originally Posted by veld

I think as the years passed by, our skin colors started to differ. I learned it in public high school, 9th grade, history class. The teacher was talking about how our DNA started to split or something. We adapted to different enviroments on this planet, like extreme hot and cold weather, etc.

I guess it's part of being human.

And, who knows, maybe God and Jesus had some really really really good tan. :P

Actually, DNA variations were more common in the past, but then there was a point in time where the population bottle-necked because of a flood, and humans became more alike, because the people with different DNA died. Human DNA doest split like you were saying though, but it was further split back then than it is now.

[alainbryden]

Actually wayfaerer, in human reproduction dna splits and recombines in new patterns for each new person.

[Wayfaerer_]

I think I didnt word it right, but I agree, because you never really hear about black cavemen

[Brymo204]

In the I Samuel 16:7 it says "But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart." "

This means that God is not bound by the same things man is. He isn't concerned with apearance so why should we?

[VegetaRobGT]

Originally Posted by rockwjz

If God created man in the picture of himself, then why are there more black people in the world than white people? Or more asians then whites? I cant stand when neo-christians beleive that god is only white, how can they be sure? I love how the movie Bruce Almighty(starring Jim Carrey) choose Morgan Freeman to be God. By the way, Im white myself, but i just dont understand how god can only be white.......OR, is he a mix of every type of human being? Anyone have any explanations? thoughts? inputs? im open!

If he created man in the image of himself, this would imply only that he created man to look like him. This has little to do with race because it never said in the bible that god is white. Every race as a vast difference of looks in their people, take two white people and one asian and the took white people won't necessarily look the most the same. The term 'white' or 'caucasion' means people whos ansestors originated from Europe, any one who thinks god originated from europe and has the nerve to say that he is white is a complete and utter idiot in my eye.

[VegetaRobGT]

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Actually, DNA variations were more common in the past, but then there was a point in time where the population bottle-necked because of a flood, and humans became more alike, because the people with different DNA died. Human DNA doest split like you were saying though, but it was further split back then than it is now.[/quote]

you idiot

[tifa-sama]

My appathy towards this subject increases as I read this pointless and insignificant babble. This is anti-intellectualism at it's best. Besides...have you ever looked at a platapus? If God exists he must have taken one too many hits from his bong while putting that shit together. And with cloning and gene splicing we can do better than God. So what is the point of him existing anywayz? I say we just throw back a shot of whiskey and forget about the bastard all together.