"WTF?" is OUT. - Page 2

**Squeek** · 09-22-2004, 05:53 PM

I can't seem to figure out the math on my own. How many hits a second is that (666bpm 16ths)?

Deposition - That was the Beta version I let a few people see. But, you technically could hit F5 whenever and it'll end the song.

~Squeek

**Moogy** · 09-22-2004, 05:58 PM

44.4 hits/second for 666 BPM 16ths.

Not humanly possible.

The rest of the song isn't that easy either.

**Tasselfoot** · 09-22-2004, 06:39 PM

i doubt anyone can even get to those 16ths... since the rest of the song is 666 8th note jumps. or 333 bpm 16th jumps.... think of the ending to blade on 2.9x music....

the math way to figure out keystrokes per second... 666beats per minute (4th notes.) 4 16th notes in 1 beat. or, 666 x 4 = 2664 notes per minute / 60 = 44.4 notes per second. and thats jacks.

i failed that ending on .5x music. 22.2 notes per second.

**Moogy** · 09-22-2004, 08:16 PM

Reach got to the ending earlier today.

He failed on it.

tnyhwk900 · 09-22-2004, 08:17 PM

He should've used double setup on the end jack, if he didn't.

**Moogy** · 09-22-2004, 08:26 PM

Double setup is called cheating.

**Squeek** · 09-22-2004, 09:12 PM

Darn. Yea... 666bpm 16ths are pretty insane. I figured out how you calculated it, Moogy. So I went ahead and calculated 8ths the same way to make sure it was 22.2 before I did this. Several times.

(Video taken down)

Basically I set up a file with 100 arrows at 666bpm to see how fast I could actually jack. According to this, I can jack about 22 times per second and get pretty good scores to boot. The video is two times playing it. One is a really good miss/marv rate, the other is nice MA.

Then I extended the file to 300 arrows (13 or so seconds) and got a B. My arm was dead from making that video again and again until it was perfect. I could AAA if I didn't practically break my arm.

So how is this relevant to my file? Jacking 16ths at 356bpm is only slightly harder than 8ths at 666bpm (16ths at 333). Reach has done 24 JPS (Jacks per second), so I assume he'd pass this eventually. It's really a matter of knowing when the jacks come in and preparing for them.

~Squeek

**Tasselfoot** · 09-22-2004, 10:15 PM

i can't jack worth shit.

**Kilgamayan** · 09-22-2004, 10:36 PM

u mean u cant jack worth jack shit

LOLE

tnyhwk900 · 09-23-2004, 05:57 PM

LOEL THAT WAS FUNNY

And Squeek, you said you play around 900-1000 bpm. That vid was on C650. =/

Omeganitros · 09-24-2004, 11:26 PM

Holy crap.

Holy crap.

HOLY CRAP.

I feel special. =D Luv ya, Squeek.

**Cenright** · 09-24-2004, 11:57 PM

Yeah, It was kinda challenging.

linus · 09-25-2004, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tnyhwk900

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Originally Posted by linus

666bpm 32nd, sir.

It's 16ths. =/

wtf it's 32nd for me 0.o.
and cenright, nice 0.5 music score lol...

Nima · 09-25-2004, 01:36 AM

right... you claim you can hit 22 a second witho ne finger squeek? bull. And don't say we can do 24 cause blur 1.5 is different. You're just PASSING and get like all goods and boos and greats on the jacks so you arne't actually hitting 24. We don't get all fucking perfects and marvs like you did at 22/sec... That's called double setup.

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what the hell?
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that squeek video.
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IS OBVIOUSLY DOUBLE SETUP
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and wtf?
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91mil on 666bpm 8th jacks.
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for 100 arrows.
|_ | |\| |_| 5 -Sore throat - says:
.......
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333bpm 8th... GOD.
|_ | |\| |_| 5 -Sore throat - says:
way too bs

Man this guy is stupid for trying to pull this shit off. If he had even been doing payon jacks or anything even like 12.5+ for that long and pulled that off I would have SURELY called bs.

Nima · 09-25-2004, 01:49 AM

WOW... wait a sec are people like tasselfoot and squeek claiming they can hit more than 22 jacks a sec and up to 24+? Wow go pass blur 1.5-1.7 then since you are so fast. And don't say those are double jacks. Cause single jacks at 24 are fucking retarded. You guys can't do way easier stepfiles and you are claiming you can jack that fast? you think we are dumb? You obviously used double setup or cheated somehow. You can't hit close to that especially tasselfoot considering he failed jackhammer madness (less than 14/sec) WITH DOUBLE SETUP. I would love to see a video showing your fingers doing that since you can't trill very fast so obviously you can't hit 24 in a trill since none of even the best players can do that that fast on one key. I would be surprised if you could even do fucking 12/13 jacks per second and actually hit them without getting all goods and boos.

Simply put if you could do jacks at 24 a second squeek and hit them the way you did. You'd be doing stuff like blur 2.0 since although that is faster you'd be hitting fast enough to get goods and boos and pass.

**Cenright** · 09-25-2004, 01:58 AM

Actually Linus, 0.3 music.

Also, Squeek was mistaken. The notes aren't all on beat. I know, cause I picked through it at snail pace.

Nima · 09-25-2004, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Tasselfoot said:
i can't pass it... stupid double set up kept messing me up. only tried twice though.

Awww... can't pass 13.7 jacks per second? Using double setup? And I don't care that you are saying it wasn't the double setup that killed you it was the switching cause everything but that part is fucking easy so you must have lost lots of life on double setup. And now you're fucking trying to pull that you can do it normally at nearly twice that speed with 1 finger? And that you are faster than linus? rofl.

Don't do it again.

I died on the jacks. Go pass blur 1.6 NOW and jackhammer ownage go AA that with SINGLE setup. Also, go AAA k8107.

See... somethings people will believe but you are overdoing it. Let's add some things up. A quasar 1.5 (after lots of improvement), mentions he isn't good at fast streams, sucks at jacks, and really dififcult songs. Owns a song with super hard jacks that are physically impossible, patterns that are way faster than quasar 2.0, etc. We aren't THAT stupid. Now look...two people who can high B quasar 2.0, AAA 1.5, own songs with hard jacks (ie. blur, k8, payon, etc.) and you get farther than them?

Nima · 09-25-2004, 02:39 AM

just so you know. I know you can't even get past even the first part tassel. (I'm making lots of double posts and shit but I'm pissed).

K this song is 356 bpm 16ths
Linus said quasar 1.8 is 279 bpm 16ths. And you can BARELY ever pass that and you almost die I know for a fact you even posted that somewhere. Yet you are hitting these 356bpm 16ths (QUASAR 2.3X MUSIC SPEED). And they aren't just 1/2 short streams they last for a long time. So I don't think you can even GET CLOSE to doing that part.

rofl, I can't believe you're trying to pull off the fact that you non-double settuped (although I don't believe you can even do it with double even though that's cheating) this fucking song and passed.

Oh and we wanted to point this out. You said that there were some streams that helped you build up your life between the jacks? There are only 10-15 arrows between them and they are NOT easy so they help either very little or not at all.

**Reach** · 09-25-2004, 07:15 AM

Gamepro like didn't even pass. Look at his misses. He is using judge 1 life.

Oh and this songs retarded. Wtf. I got passed the 32nds once but the 16ths jacks are murder.

And squeak, you can't jack 22 times a second. I can only do like 14 jacks a second constantly.

Edit: Good job making the heavy impossible too =/ The 2 16ths jacks back to back in the stream are not possible.

**Tasselfoot** · 09-25-2004, 10:00 AM

nima... 1, are you talking about the oni or the heavy? cause i never claimed to pass either. ask squeek. he and i talked about it... i got past the 1st half of heavy once. thats it.

09-22-2004, 05:58 PM	#22
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	44.4 hits/second for 666 BPM 16ths. Not humanly possible. The rest of the song isn't that easy either. __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

09-22-2004, 06:39 PM	#23
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	i doubt anyone can even get to those 16ths... since the rest of the song is 666 8th note jumps. or 333 bpm 16th jumps.... think of the ending to blade on 2.9x music.... the math way to figure out keystrokes per second... 666beats per minute (4th notes.) 4 16th notes in 1 beat. or, 666 x 4 = 2664 notes per minute / 60 = 44.4 notes per second. and thats jacks. i failed that ending on .5x music. 22.2 notes per second. __________________ RIP

09-22-2004, 08:16 PM	#24
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	Reach got to the ending earlier today. He failed on it. __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

09-22-2004, 08:17 PM	#25
tnyhwk900 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your pocket Age: 35 Posts: 4,106	He should've used double setup on the end jack, if he didn't. __________________

09-22-2004, 08:26 PM	#26
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 36 Posts: 10,303	Double setup is called cheating. __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

09-22-2004, 05:53 PM	#21
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 14,444	I can't seem to figure out the math on my own. How many hits a second is that (666bpm 16ths)? Deposition - That was the Beta version I let a few people see. But, you technically could hit F5 whenever and it'll end the song. ~Squeek

09-22-2004, 09:12 PM	#27
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 14,444	Darn. Yea... 666bpm 16ths are pretty insane. I figured out how you calculated it, Moogy. So I went ahead and calculated 8ths the same way to make sure it was 22.2 before I did this. Several times. (Video taken down) Basically I set up a file with 100 arrows at 666bpm to see how fast I could actually jack. According to this, I can jack about 22 times per second and get pretty good scores to boot. The video is two times playing it. One is a really good miss/marv rate, the other is nice MA. Then I extended the file to 300 arrows (13 or so seconds) and got a B. My arm was dead from making that video again and again until it was perfect. I could AAA if I didn't practically break my arm. So how is this relevant to my file? Jacking 16ths at 356bpm is only slightly harder than 8ths at 666bpm (16ths at 333). Reach has done 24 JPS (Jacks per second), so I assume he'd pass this eventually. It's really a matter of knowing when the jacks come in and preparing for them. ~Squeek

09-22-2004, 10:15 PM	#28
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	i can't jack worth shit. __________________ RIP

09-22-2004, 10:36 PM	#29
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 41 Posts: 6,583	u mean u cant jack worth jack shit LOLE __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

09-23-2004, 05:57 PM	#30
tnyhwk900 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your pocket Age: 35 Posts: 4,106	LOEL THAT WAS FUNNY And Squeek, you said you play around 900-1000 bpm. That vid was on C650. =/ __________________

09-24-2004, 11:26 PM	#31
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 37 Posts: 8,897	Holy crap. Holy crap. HOLY CRAP. I feel special. =D Luv ya, Squeek.

09-24-2004, 11:57 PM	#32
Cenright You thought I was a GUY?! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaumont (A town with 25 times fewer people than this site) Age: 38 Posts: 3,139	Yeah, It was kinda challenging. __________________ http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...Cube_in_55.mpg

09-25-2004, 01:36 AM	#34
Nima FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,526	right... you claim you can hit 22 a second witho ne finger squeek? bull. And don't say we can do 24 cause blur 1.5 is different. You're just PASSING and get like all goods and boos and greats on the jacks so you arne't actually hitting 24. We don't get all fucking perfects and marvs like you did at 22/sec... That's called double setup. \|_ \| \|\\| \|_\| 5 -Sore throat - says: what the hell? \|_ \| \|\\| \|_\| 5 -Sore throat - says: that squeek video. \|_ \| \|\\| \|_\| 5 -Sore throat - says: IS OBVIOUSLY DOUBLE SETUP \|_ \| \|\\| \|_\| 5 -Sore throat - says: and wtf? \|_ \| \|\\| \|_\| 5 -Sore throat - says: 91mil on 666bpm 8th jacks. \|_ \| \|\\| \|_\| 5 -Sore throat - says: for 100 arrows. \|_ \| \|\\| \|_\| 5 -Sore throat - says: ....... \|_ \| \|\\| \|_\| 5 -Sore throat - says: 333bpm 8th... GOD. \|_ \| \|\\| \|_\| 5 -Sore throat - says: way too bs Man this guy is stupid for trying to pull this shit off. If he had even been doing payon jacks or anything even like 12.5+ for that long and pulled that off I would have SURELY called bs. __________________ DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

09-25-2004, 01:49 AM	#35
Nima FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,526	WOW... wait a sec are people like tasselfoot and squeek claiming they can hit more than 22 jacks a sec and up to 24+? Wow go pass blur 1.5-1.7 then since you are so fast. And don't say those are double jacks. Cause single jacks at 24 are fucking retarded. You guys can't do way easier stepfiles and you are claiming you can jack that fast? you think we are dumb? You obviously used double setup or cheated somehow. You can't hit close to that especially tasselfoot considering he failed jackhammer madness (less than 14/sec) WITH DOUBLE SETUP. I would love to see a video showing your fingers doing that since you can't trill very fast so obviously you can't hit 24 in a trill since none of even the best players can do that that fast on one key. I would be surprised if you could even do fucking 12/13 jacks per second and actually hit them without getting all goods and boos. Simply put if you could do jacks at 24 a second squeek and hit them the way you did. You'd be doing stuff like blur 2.0 since although that is faster you'd be hitting fast enough to get goods and boos and pass. __________________ DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

09-25-2004, 01:58 AM	#36
Cenright You thought I was a GUY?! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaumont (A town with 25 times fewer people than this site) Age: 38 Posts: 3,139	Actually Linus, 0.3 music. Also, Squeek was mistaken. The notes aren't all on beat. I know, cause I picked through it at snail pace. __________________ http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...Cube_in_55.mpg

09-25-2004, 02:39 AM	#38
Nima FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,526	just so you know. I know you can't even get past even the first part tassel. (I'm making lots of double posts and shit but I'm pissed). K this song is 356 bpm 16ths Linus said quasar 1.8 is 279 bpm 16ths. And you can BARELY ever pass that and you almost die I know for a fact you even posted that somewhere. Yet you are hitting these 356bpm 16ths (QUASAR 2.3X MUSIC SPEED). And they aren't just 1/2 short streams they last for a long time. So I don't think you can even GET CLOSE to doing that part. rofl, I can't believe you're trying to pull off the fact that you non-double settuped (although I don't believe you can even do it with double even though that's cheating) this fucking song and passed. Oh and we wanted to point this out. You said that there were some streams that helped you build up your life between the jacks? There are only 10-15 arrows between them and they are NOT easy so they help either very little or not at all. __________________ DELETE THIS ACCOUNT

09-25-2004, 07:15 AM	#39
Reach FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 7,471	RE: "WTF?" is OUT. Gamepro like didn't even pass. Look at his misses. He is using judge 1 life. Oh and this songs retarded. Wtf. I got passed the 32nds once but the 16ths jacks are murder. And squeak, you can't jack 22 times a second. I can only do like 14 jacks a second constantly. Edit: Good job making the heavy impossible too =/ The 2 16ths jacks back to back in the stream are not possible. __________________

09-25-2004, 10:00 AM	#40
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	RE: "WTF?" is OUT. nima... 1, are you talking about the oni or the heavy? cause i never claimed to pass either. ask squeek. he and i talked about it... i got past the 1st half of heavy once. thats it. __________________ RIP

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