Don't Hate on the Racists

[GuidoHunter]

Originally Posted by virus-maker

Stereotyping about age is very different then stereotyping about race. There are huge differences between an 11 year-old and a 21 year-old, for one, an 11 year old is much less mature and experienced then a 21 year old, that is why a 21 year old can drive, drink alcohol, etc. But what is the difference between different races? The only thing different is the way they look. So how can you form a stereotype just by the way people look? So your age stereotype analogy doesnt work very well.

I wasn't suggesting that there were any differences between the races. I was simply pointing out a case in which stereotyping works for a purpose. Stereotyping based on race doesn't necessarily suggest that one group is more adept or anything. Such as with my social example, stereotyping allows me to avoid potentially uncomfortable situations.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[virus-maker]

ok then thats not stereotyping against race, that is just stereotyping against people who dress like "thugs" or white people wearing a confederate shirt or whatever.

[The_Q]

That's what he's been saying from the beginning. I never really addressed it because I thought you would have realized that too.

But again, the potentially uncomfortable situation is a small cost of getting to know someone who you could benefit from.

To work in another rule of economics: It's good to be different. Those who trade with you will cherish things worthless to you and easily give up things that you will cherish. Same goes with knowing people.

Q

[alextrebek]

What Moogy said.

Also, I'd just like to say that there's one significant difference between races: THE COLOR OF THEIR FUCKING SKIN, WHICH HAS ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON ANYTHING IMPORTANT AT ALL.

How one acts is the only way that one should stereotype.

[DarkReverend]

Guido,
I would have never wanted to admit it before, but you made an excellent argument to stereotype.
Sadly it is true that the example of certain groups tending to act or appear certain ways is how one would expect them to be. This is an acceptable assumption espcially because humans are so self concious of how they exude themselves that if you don't want someone to view you as one way you wouldn't lead them astray. For example if you were a video game lover and tree hugging hippy no one would find you at let's say.... The Naval Academy or something crazy like that. Again, your stubborn ways prove to be somehow justified. BTW how are the pants?

D.C.

[The_Q]

Most of his arguement is based solely on the fact that first impressions matter. How you act on those first impressions can be wise and often makes sense. The fact that he acts on what I consider negativly is my only objection.

In general, he's right. First impressions do matter. I just disagree on how we act upon them.

Thanks for a good rigorous discussion, Guido. It was fun.

Q

[ramonesfan]

Originally Posted by CalibreneGuru

White people can be African-American, yes it's true. Why do you call them African-American, when everyone calls caucasions "White"? That's what I am wondering.

You're absolutely right, if any of yall have heard of barenaked ladies (the band) well you might be surprised to know the lead singer is from south africa (yes, i know south africa is mainly white but you get the point)

[The_Q]

It's also true that white settled South Africa before Blacks. The Zulu didn't get down there for a couple decades after the cities were starting sprawl.

Q

[thisisnotporn]

Wow, Guido I have to say you are an idiot, your dubbing people simply based on their skin color, which is wrong, I am not sticking up for the people that rip on white people or rip on any other color at all. See the african americans are not all "Yo dawg what be crackin?" The only reson why they are thuged up and listening to rap is becuase that is part of their culture (not all though) So if you want to be dubbed a flaming loser be one becuase I already have. Oh I also say you suck my nuts.

[DracIV]

Wow, Guido I have to say you are an idiot, your dubbing people simply based on their skin color, which is wrong,...

But why is it wrong? This is critical thinking after all, and when discussing a major point in this thread you need to elaborate.

The only reson why they are thuged up and listening to rap is becuase that is part of their culture (not all though)

Isn't that exaclty what stereotyping is- recognizing that these people look or sound like they fit in a specific group and you mentally put them in that group? It's part of their culture, so you say, so doesn't that mean that only people like them would fit that stereotypical group and that it is a major enough part of their culture that you can recognize members on sight?

[Chrissi]

thisisnotporn, you don't belong here... go to Chit Chat or the Garbage Bin.

[GuidoHunter]

Originally Posted by thisisnotporn

...your dubbing people simply based on their skin color, which is wrong

Once again, the sixty-four thousand dollar question is raised: WHY is it wrong? I don't see anything wrong with it; I'm not hurting anyone by doing it (except myself if you want to make the argument that I'm missing out on good friendships etc.). So please, elaborate.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[thisisnotporn]

How about this, I say screw you chrissie and you get the hell out of my face. Sound good ok, go fix your site, to many damn holes might need to update it
Plugin ID: 9
Plugin name: Apache2 Double Slash Dir Index
Protocol: tcp
Port: 80
Severity: Medium
Advisory: http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement.html
Affected: Apache web server 2.x
Not affected: Other web servers and Apache newer the affected one.
Vulnerability class: Configuration
Exploit URL:

Description: It is possible to obtain the listing of the content of the Apache 2 web server remote web server root by sending the request GET // HTTP/1.0. An attacker may exploit this flaw the browse the content of the remote web root and possibly find hidden links into it.

oh yeah and your HTML is sloppy as hell might want to touch that up to

Oh and don't tell me what I am discussing and what I am not

[The_Q]

You AREN'T though. You're not discussing a thing. You make random moral statements without backup. No thought is necessary for that. So you can look at a site's coding, that doesn't change anything. Now all I know is that you fake being smart to get your way.

So back yourself up. WHY is it wrong, besides missed friendships and business opprotunities on BOTH sides?

Get a grip on Critical Thinking before you post in it.

Q

[thisisnotporn]

Ha, your a joke, I don't have to post s |-| it backing my statment up. By the way I am smart, your dumb ass wouldn't have figured that hole out in a million years. Also I don't get my way, plus what does having to get my way have to do anything with an arguement? Huh? Yeah your stupid ass can't back that up now can you? Plus you just a red-neck retard. I don't like waisting time anyway, also you need a life you responded with'n seconds off my post loser.

[Xaimus]

You're so intelligent that you used "your" in the place of "you're". You also have the amazing ability to search security listings, like a pro script kiddie!

[GuidoHunter]

AUGH, I really didn't want to do this, but he's acting worse than LEGO...

Way to come here, make a post that's worth close to nothing, then force what would be intelligent discussion off-topic.

THX, buddy, now get the fuck off my thread.

Everyone else, just ignore him; it's not worth it.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[thisisnotporn]

I might not be elite ,but if i can find this exploit and inform you of it Unlike a script kiddie would do . I am just learning.You were just like me Learning and discovering . I know I'm new to all this I thought I was being helpful but since I'm a bother I wount bother telling you if I find any other Exploitable aspects on your site.



thank you , DaRKNeZz_Ogre

[Chrissi]

thisisnotporn, please realize that I am not in charge of the server and I'm being hosted for free on flatface.net, kthxbai. If you have a problem with the way the server is set up, TAKE IT UP WITH THE FREAKING PEOPLE WHO SET IT UP. Also, they're offering an awesome service to people for free. I am not about to argue with it just because it's not very secure. They never claimed to be the most secure. They are there to provide free webspace that allows a lot of things that most places don't. PHP is what I'm most interested in, and the fact that I get 50 MB of space. Though it's not a lot, it's more than geocities for example.

Don't fucking tell me my code is sloppy. w3.org doesn't seem to think so.

And shut the fuck up. If I say you don't belong in critical thinking, you don't belong in critical thinking.

K

THX

BAI.

Okay? Good. Bye. You're not wanted.

Edit: Also, you mother-fucking ass, nobody bitches about my code and fucking gets away with it. Let me see what you've made. Nothing cleaner I'm fucking sure.

[The_Q]

Holy crap...guys. He just proved us wrong. Entirly. He made me throw my morals out my ass out of distaste for his feeble attempt at joining these forums. We were the wrong ones. Holy ****.

I contradicted myself. It's good economics to tolerate even the bigots and the assholes. I said so in this very thread (see lost opprotunity). That means him. I can't say anything else...

thisisnotporn, as an economist, christian, and fellow forum poster, I apologize.

Q