New version of stepmania.com

[Fission]

posted like 4 suggestions on the site check them out whenever

[dAnceguy117]

would anyone consider starting a new simfile pack (whenever, not necessarily now as I know there are a million running currently) and having *ALL* of the discussion at the beta.stepmania.com forums?




edit: THE NEW STEPMANIA FORUMS LOOK SO GOOD ON MOBILE OH MY GOD

[shakesoda]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

edit: THE NEW STEPMANIA FORUMS LOOK SO GOOD ON MOBILE OH MY GOD

Yeah I have been trying to make everything work great on mobile, I'm trying to make SM Micro play nice there too.

[Fission]

i already know this is going to be a really controversial suggestion but i'd like the stepmania subforum to be deleted when the new stepmania site is finished to help centralize everything involving stepmania to one forum. this is never going to happen but w/e, thought i'd throw it out there anyways.

[dAnceguy117]

scores forum up!
http://beta.stepmania.com/forums/scores/

activity would be pretty sweet. be sure to label threads clearly (keyboard/pad, 4key/6key). posting videos would probably help show any newcomers wtf we're playing.

[Charlo]

Wait. So the Stepmania site will now be offering a files database? Like the old Bemanistyle (RIP in peace)?

I am officially hyped.

By the way, looks pretty good so far. The only problem I've noticed so far is that on the forum index page, the container for each individual forum is stuck at a fixed height, causing text to overflow and overlap all over. In Firebug, if I remove the "height: 3em" from the .forum-subforum class, it fixes the problem.

[kommisar]

I still think the colors/design are an eyesore.

might be the yellow or something but I don't like the layout

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by Charlo

Wait. So the Stepmania site will now be offering a files database? Like the old Bemanistyle (RIP in peace)?

no, not as far as I'm aware. edit: I am dumb and fail to read the front pages of websites. that is all.

Originally Posted by Charlo

By the way, looks pretty good so far. The only problem I've noticed so far is that on the forum index page, the container for each individual forum is stuck at a fixed height, causing text to overflow and overlap all over. In Firebug, if I remove the "height: 3em" from the .forum-subforum class, it fixes the problem.

good catch! if you want to make sure they see your tip, try posting in an existing thread or making a new one in the meta forum:
http://beta.stepmania.com/forums/meta/

Originally Posted by kommisar

I still think the colors/design are an eyesore.

might be the yellow or something but I don't like the layout

they b workin' on it

[shakesoda]

Actually, I am working (slowly) on a song database that will be directly integrated with the game. It won't be around for some time, though.

[Mollocephalus]

Hype

[kommisar]

is there a way to make adding songs super easy and instant like osu where you can just drag and drop instead of going in sm folder and having to reload the entire game?

or is that just dreamin' haha

[Mollocephalus]

I dream of having a stepmania version which is compatible with both 3.95 and 5's negative bpm and other lua sheningans

i dream of making a arcade theme for it and put it inside all ITGs

[shakesoda]

Originally Posted by kommisar

is there a way to make adding songs super easy and instant like osu where you can just drag and drop instead of going in sm folder and having to reload the entire game?

or is that just dreamin' haha

There will be a browser right in the game and it doesn't need to restart or anything.

Also yes, that's totally possible. It also won't be happening soon.

Originally Posted by Mollocephalus

I dream of having a stepmania version which is compatible with both 3.95 and 5's negative bpm and other lua sheningans

i dream of making a arcade theme for it and put it inside all ITGs

Uh. You can do all that stuff, with a little work. 3.95 stuff shouldn't even exist. That build was never supported officially to any capacity.

The negative stop/bpm stuff gets converted to warps (as they should) these days and works great. Lua shenanigans are entirely possible, too, you just actually use a Lua file instead of an XML file now. It'd be super easy to convert some of the old stuff, but nobody has done so.

[Mollocephalus]

!!!!!! that is wonderfullio

[dAnceguy117]

sounds freakin' rad.


shakesoda, could you explain a little bit about the current dev team's goals and vision for the game?

- with an integrated song database, what will the legal policy be like?
- how large of an audience are you looking to reach, in the long term?
- do you plan to collaborate with stepmaniaonline.net? or would there be a separate, "official" multiplayer community?
- what is (or will be) the primary purpose of SM Micro?

[shakesoda]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

- with an integrated song database, what will the legal policy be like?

As with the old SM Share, we won't filter content but reported content will be removed if we get DMCA notices. As long as we honor takedown notices we're in no legal danger.

- how large of an audience are you looking to reach, in the long term?

As big as possible. Another idea that has come up is talking with Valve to release a version w/workshop support on Steam... but we'd probably need to go through greenlight and get some more (decent) default content, and polish up the interface to actually resemble a game made this decade (like Osu's).

I'd honestly be down with having a Kickstarter or something, but I'd have to make plans more concrete and I honestly doubt it'd go well.

- do you plan to collaborate with stepmaniaonline.net? or would there be a separate, "official" multiplayer community?

I would like to host an SMO server on stepmania.com and have better lobbies/matching in general... eventually. For now, working with smo.net on things sounds great.

- what is (or will be) the primary purpose of SM Micro?

It will support 100% of the content in the song database and is also a pilot for a new simfile format. It's not supposed to replace the full game, but it should be good enough that you could use it as the main way to play simfiles if you really wanted... kind of like how a lot of people just go listen to music on youtube instead of keeping their own library.

It'll support controllers and stuff and probably local multiplayer, too.

[dAnceguy117]

fantastic. thank you!

a much more vague, brainstorm-y question: what can we (the StepMania community at FFR) do to help?

[choof]

step a shit load of easy files

[ddr_f4n]

So what about uploading packs of files then? I assume the songs database will mostly focus on singles but what if we want to upload an entire pack in the database? Is there any plans for that in the future?

[shakesoda]

Originally Posted by ddr_f4n

So what about uploading packs of files then? I assume the songs database will mostly focus on singles but what if we want to upload an entire pack in the database? Is there any plans for that in the future?

It's structured to both store and build packs. I'm building it so any packs uploaded will be available both as a whole and as individual songs, and any songs uploaded can be built into packs. I've found it really obnoxious that no simfile DB has ever treated them properly.

I've only got the groundwork for this done, though, so don't expect it to be ready soon.

Originally Posted by choof

step a shit load of easy files

+1

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

a much more vague, brainstorm-y question: what can we (the StepMania community at FFR) do to help?

People with some CSS/HTML/PHP skills can poke around at https://github.com/shakesoda/stepmania-site. Everyone else can keep these reports coming and generally just use the hell out of the site.

Any kind of tutorial posts would be welcome, content like that can be added to the wiki by anyone with access (regular users can't touch the wiki because of how unbelievably bad the spam on the old one was). Actually, any suggestions for wiki content and things that need documentation would be awesome.

The site also needs more icons, smilies, etc.