DP/RATO move to tokens?

[DarkZtar]

Originally Posted by Fission

i never said that. i said there is less incentive to play them.

I wasen't responding to your point, but if you insist I do, I don't think there was a whole lot of incentive to play them in the first place (considering the vast majority of players have to resort to mashing both files which in all honesty is not particularly fun~)

Originally Posted by Fission

there are stat bars that lists how many AAAs, FCs, and tier points you have. this is indicative of the gaming being about completion. if it isn't suppose to be, just remove them altogether.

Then we just view the game differently. imo stats on FFR are more just to give you a sense of how much you've accomplished rather than tell you how much further you have to go~

[Fission]

Originally Posted by DarkZtar

I wasen't responding to your point

well you quoted me. what was i suppose to think?

Originally Posted by DarkZtar

I don't think there was a whole lot of incentive to play them in the first place (considering the vast majority of players have to resort to mashing both files which in all honesty is not particularly fun~)

same argument can be made about other FSOs and high FGOs

Originally Posted by DarkZtar

stats on FFR are more just to give you a sense of how much you've accomplished

right, and if you remove rato and dp from level ranks and AAA everything else, it is saying you accomplished everything even though you didn't.

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

I can tell when I'm not wanted
But yeah, these two files are complete shitfests in comparison to everything else. They're obviously joke files and my ranks aren't laughing.

D:

I meant on this file, not in general T_T

@ Fission: you make a good point, but it's pretty bad when players that were working on their ranks had no intentions on touching it. When I had an average rank of < 1.05, I would work on all of my other files, but never touch Death Piano or RATO because they truly are just... unfun.

RATO requires luck because there are obscenely fast bursts that obviously have to be cheated with rhythmically sub-divided jumptrilling. For me, DP isn't that bad; it's very possible to AAA. RATO is more up my alley with the heavy jumpstreaming and strange patterning, but the file really is bullshit (sorry DGK).

EDIT: in your defense... getting a good file at this difficulty level is nearly impossible.

[mi40]

can we just remove rato from game and move dp to skill token

[RagedBerserker]

Originally Posted by Fission

right, and if you remove rato and dp from level ranks and AAA everything else, it is saying you accomplished everything even though you didn't.

By this logic we should remove token level stats altogether and make all songs part of public level stats.

[Charu]

Oh, I guess this is as good place as any, but I find Death Piano harder to score on than RATO.

I think the difficulties should be switched for those two, the 99 being DP and 98 being RATO, heh.

[mi40]

the final boss is revo if u remove dp/rato from public levelrank btw

[TC_Halogen]

also, in before Robotomy

EDIT: haha Charu -- nice opposite thinking we have comparing DP and RATO

[yo man im awesome]

final boss should be robotomy; yes I saw you AJ

[mi40]

Originally Posted by Fission

right, and if you remove rato and dp from level ranks and AAA everything else, it is saying you accomplished everything even though you didn't.

well theres some files that have 1,2 or no AAA's

jamais vu & a quick death, 2 aaas by aj and doss
crowdpleaser, 2 aaas by samurai and owa
m8bit tour & almost there, 2 aaas by samurai and doss

do i smile, 1 aaa by samurai
winter wind etude, 1 aaa by doss
system doctor, 1 aaa by doss
rave7, 1 aaa by doss
revo etude, 1 aaa by doss
husigi, 1 aaa by doss

[Choofers]

can we have a public poll about putting robotomy in game

[mi40]

ey wtf is this shit bout robotomy i keep hearing

???????? robotomy going in game soon ????????

[Fission]

Originally Posted by RagedBerserker

By this logic we should remove token level stats altogether and make all songs part of public level stats.

actually, yes.

the only things i wouldn't want to see appear on public level stats is vrofl and p4u v1. there might be some other files that i am forgetting, but you get the idea.

[Choofers]

i think it's more the fact that robotomy steps on a LOT of toes

[mi40]

Originally Posted by Choofers

i think it's more the fact that robotomy steps on a LOT of toes

well i guess robotomy is d7 final ???

(nerd psychicK)

[DarkZtar]

Originally Posted by Fission

same argument can be made about other FSOs and high FGOs

The line has to be drawn somewhere~

Originally Posted by Fission

right, and if you remove rato and dp from level ranks and AAA everything else, it is saying you accomplished everything even though you didn't.

Who goes around saying they've accomplished everything in the first place? Might be since I play the game more casually, I just don't understand you viewing this game as a completion game~

[RagedBerserker]

Originally Posted by Fission

actually, yes.

the only things i wouldn't want to see appear on public level stats is vrofl and p4u v1. there might be some other files that i am forgetting, but you get the idea.

Ah, well this is when the argument turns into having level ranks on songs you can't change because you haven't unlocked the song.

[TC_Halogen]

Removing all of the files from token/skill token areas would mean there's nothing to unlock, and that's a game mechanic that really should stay intact.

[One Winged Angel]

god damn it stop talking about robotomy in here lmao

[Fission]

Originally Posted by RagedBerserker

Ah, well this is when the argument turns into having level ranks on songs you can't change because you haven't unlocked the song.

indeed. i don't want to derail this thread in that direction. even though i have the unpopular opinion, i hope people can at least see where i am coming from.

Originally Posted by DarkZtar

I just don't understand you viewing this game as a completion game~

the way i see it as why not. i don't see the reason to not structure it as such, unless people get discouraged that they can't AAA every file or something.

i've shared my opinion, so not going to post anymore here.