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  • foxfire667
    The FFRchiver
    FFR Music Producer
    • Jun 2009
    • 2170

    #2881
    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

    Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
    If Southern Cross is a VC then what the **** is a FMO anymore?
    The funny thing about that is, it is easier for my to Full Combo / near AAA a few of the other "For Masters Only" songs than it is for me to full combo Southern Cross, so the fact that it would have been moved down to "Very Challenging" is kind of strange. Although of I ever AAA a "For Masters Only Song", it certainly wouldn't have been Southern Cross anyway...oh well I guess.

    As long as they keep these songs on the FMO list:
    Lawn Wake I
    Lawn Wake IV
    Silence

    Then it is alright with me.
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    • Vanilla Mnm
      cavs
      • Dec 2007
      • 3258

      #2882
      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

      Eh, I agree with these changes. I honestly think Lawn Wake should still be an FMO, but pretty much everyone disagrees with that. All of those songs (Except Lawn Wake in my opinion) were easier than For FFR like kmay said. They're fine being VC. Choprite should also be a VC along with Novo Mundo in my opinion.

      Hm, on another thought, I saw a post by someone (I forgot, maybe mhss, stavie? 0? Maybe, I forgot), but maybe we should make another difficult where all these would go. Just a thought, definitely would need expanding on.

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      • mhss1992
        FFR Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 788

        #2883
        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

        But there are so many VCs that are harder than all of these songs.
        I'm not sure about Southern Cross... I kinda suck at it.
        Disconnected Hardkore should be VC. There are no FMO patterns in it, even Illumination in the Sky is harder than it IMO

        Originally posted by Vanilla Mnm
        Hm, on another thought, I saw a post by someone (I forgot, maybe mhss, stavie? 0? Maybe, I forgot), but maybe we should make another difficult where all these would go. Just a thought, definitely would need expanding on.
        It was Stavie, I think. I don't think that there should be another difficulty... The difficulty interval would be a bit small. If we add more and more difficulties, it will be even harder to put the songs in them, I think.
        Last edited by mhss1992; 10-7-2009, 07:47 PM.
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        Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

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        • retching oesophagus
          (^._.^) =^-ω-^= (^・o・^)ノ
          • Jan 2008
          • 805

          #2884
          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

          yes that could work. you could divide FMOs into 2 groups. 1st group will be NWE and SC ending with FFLBF. 2nd group ranging from Piano Etudes, Big Blue to stuff like FN, Lolo and Pants. anything much harder will be FGO (or 13). and yeh i really don't like SC and K8 being VC. dot death is still a VC!

          Originally posted by kmay
          we set the hardest VC as For FFR and all of those songs are easier then For FFR i agree with the change although now im not good at any FMO's
          yeh but what if you find For FFR pretty AAA-able compared to songs like SC and K8 (crowbarred reference i aaad this recently lol)
          Last edited by retching oesophagus; 10-7-2009, 09:39 PM.

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          • freakOmani
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2006
            • 109

            #2885
            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

            there is no way southern cross should be a VC. i don't think there is any other song in the VCs that have jumpstream at that fast a pace

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            • leonid
              I am leonid
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Oct 2008
              • 8080

              #2886
              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

              There should be a difficulty between 10 and 11 for stuffs like VC files containing hands, FMOs that don't give [oni] anymore, etc



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              • qqwref
                stepmania archaeologist
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2005
                • 4092

                #2887
                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                There is. It's called VC. >_>
                Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                • leonid
                  I am leonid
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 8080

                  #2888
                  Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                  Originally posted by qqwref
                  There is. It's called VC. >_>
                  Originally posted by leonid
                  VC files containing hands
                  read again


                  edit: in case anyone isn't sure, I meant files that contain hands, but not as hard as typical FMO files.



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                  • leonid
                    I am leonid
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 8080

                    #2889
                    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                    Will they ever



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                    • Hairy Cabbage
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 167

                      #2890
                      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                      Originally posted by jimerax
                      those 4 difficulty changes make sence to keep consistency between previous high-VC songs.



                      so how do you think when the boundary is getting pretty obscure after avmiss fix?
                      then prove if you think those songs are harder than previous high-VC songs.
                      i dont understand your post, sorry.

                      but hey, heres a few songs that i played, these scores are 1st try and didnt restart any of them. and all 4 songs i havent played for a while, so hey, if it was proof, this might be a little something, take a look at some scores by someone who dosent perfect every song every try...


                      Last edited by Hairy Cabbage; 10-8-2009, 04:54 PM.

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                      • qqwref
                        stepmania archaeologist
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 4092

                        #2891
                        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                        Can we bump Fei Longer up to VC? I'm comparing it with Starlight here; they are very similar (not too fast overall, long 16th jacks, similar length). Starlight's 3 months older but they've both been out for since late 2008 so that shouldn't make too much of a difference.

                        Starlight: 152 AAA's, need 1-0-0-4 or better to get top 200.
                        Fei Longer: 76 AAA's, need 6-1-0-1 or better to get top 200.

                        This looks like Fei Longer is objectively harder than Starlight. (My score on Fei has twice as many goods as my score on Starlight, but has a rank that's ~150 lower.) Given the top 200 scores I think it would make more sense to move Fei up than to move Starlight down.
                        Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                        Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                        Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                        • Vanilla Mnm
                          cavs
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3258

                          #2892
                          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                          Originally posted by Hairy Cabbage
                          i dont understand your post, sorry.

                          but hey, heres a few songs that i played, these scores are 1st try and didnt restart any of them. and all 4 songs i havent played for a while, so hey, if it was proof, this might be a little something, take a look at some scores by someone who dosent perfect every song every try...

                          That's just you. Not everyone has the same opinion on songs, your replays prove absolutely nothing and have no use whatsoever.

                          Originally posted by qqwref
                          Can we bump Fei Longer up to VC? I'm comparing it with Starlight here; they are very similar (not too fast overall, long 16th jacks, similar length). Starlight's 3 months older but they've both been out for since late 2008 so that shouldn't make too much of a difference.

                          Starlight: 152 AAA's, need 1-0-0-4 or better to get top 200.
                          Fei Longer: 76 AAA's, need 6-1-0-1 or better to get top 200.

                          This looks like Fei Longer is objectively harder than Starlight. (My score on Fei has twice as many goods as my score on Starlight, but has a rank that's ~150 lower.) Given the top 200 scores I think it would make more sense to move Fei up than to move Starlight down.
                          I definitely agree with this, I've been playing both today a lot and I've realized Fei Longer should probably be a VC.

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                          • One Winged Angel
                            Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 10837

                            #2893
                            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                            fei's a VC

                            also, I'm shocked that you did the best on hajnal, cabbage patch

                            I thought for the longest time that it was around 79/80 but I guess not :/


                            Originally posted by ilikexd
                            i want to be cucked by cirno

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                            • Hairy Cabbage
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 167

                              #2894
                              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                              Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                              fei's a VC

                              also, I'm shocked that you did the best on hajnal, cabbage patch

                              I thought for the longest time that it was around 79/80 but I guess not :/
                              was that an insult?

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                              • One Winged Angel
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                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 10837

                                #2895
                                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                                no lmao wtf


                                Originally posted by ilikexd
                                i want to be cucked by cirno

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