MapleStory

[B0NK]

my 1st job advance ment is about 2 hours of playing time away or so.

and bandit you almost have as much dex as i do. lol

[evilbutterfly]

Can anyone tell my if there is any strong benefit of one or the other?

xbows = Cheaper (cuz of less demand), slower and stronger, they rival the power of sins later on.
bows = Insanely expensive in later levels, but faster and weaker. They won't get as big numbers but they'll get more of them faster.

Mostly, it's down to personal preference. Get a bow AND a xbow now and try using both to see which you like. Low level xbows say they're the same speed as bows, but the way the animation lags your firing causes them to be slower regardless. Personally, I hate using xbows and will go as a hunter. I also want a hunter for arrow bomb, which is more useful because of the stun. Xbowmen get a much stronger mob attack, though.

But really Chris, get to level 70 and give me HS. :P Honestly though, I will prolly play my archer more now because I haven't had the motivation to level my mage. It gets boring and the game keeps being so laggy and stupid, and it gets worse after every patch. I really hate the NCSU network. It doesn't get along well with MS. :\

[Squeek]

My crossbowman is level 37 now.

Holy crap he's fun.

Like EB said. Regular bows are expensive. They even cost more in the NPC shops!

But srsly, in the 2 hours you have left, go between a Mountain Crossbow and the bow you have now. See which one you like best.

Personally, I chose Crossbowman because they are stronger and cheaper. I have a rockin' Heckler to use at level 38 which is a FAST speed, and I'll have Booster making it FASTER.

PQs will be fun =D

~Squeek

[B0NK]

i always think you talking to me when you refer to afro as chris.
grr.
i should be level 30 by the end of tonight >>

[OniSplitter]

Grats on level 80 Jason, have fun passing me up. ^_^

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by B0NK

i always think you talking to me when you refer to afro as chris.
grr.
i should be level 30 by the end of tonight >>

Apparently, emccky is Chris too.

[banditcom]

Oni: That priest in my ss, Hellas, was someone I partied with at level 78 one time. She was 76. Now she's 82. o.O I won't really be training. I'll see what tomorrow brings in terms of what Wizet is planning on doing. Otherwise, I may try to motor to 82, where I'll have maxed SP.

Chris list: Afro, bonk, emccky .. you guys didn't know that? XD

Afro: The whole melee thing as an archer is that you'll kill faster in your teens going melee, with your str at the level 30/32 requirement.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by banditcom

The whole melee thing as an archer is that you'll kill faster in your teens going melee, with your str at the level 30/32 requirement.

Yea. I did that. It worked great. Then I got to be 25 and found that I was crappy at archery and crappy at meleeing.

So basically, I can't level for crap from 20-30, but I can level easily between 10 and 20? How is that worth it?

[banditcom]

You're just bad at the game.

XD

[Afrobean]

Actually, with 35 STR, I can't hit well with a bow, and my STR is too low to melee effectively anymore.

Good thing I have teeth to level.

[emccky]

I am really considering starting a side project as a thief, just for kicks. I really like thiefs and I think it'd give me a good fun break from leveling my mage. I think i'm on my 5th level in 5 days right now O.O

[Afrobean]

Also note: they changed the surprise thing on the right or something.

[Squeek]

1) I told you all about the Ludi thing like...what... 3? 4 days ago?

2) The background image has been Ludi since that patch when we got 3rd jobs.

~Squeek

[Chromer]

All I see is a giant black square. O_o

[Tokzic]

Today I found a 60% Dagger Scroll.

Five seconds later, I found a 60% Dagger Scroll.

In other news, 47 tomorrow.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Chromer

All I see is a giant black square. O_o

Try firefox.

And Squeek, I know (hence the LOL). I just felt like pointing out that they have ludi stuff hidden on the site. Also, I didn't mean the fact that the toy soldier was there, but the fact that it was positioned differently than I remembered seeing it before (the ludi, pet and guild things are smaller than they used to be).

[B0NK]

omg level 98...beast

[Omeganitros]

What the hell is a Level 98 doing in that area?

[evilbutterfly]

Killing MM and showing off, of course. Silly Omega!

[ckj846]

Originally Posted by evilbutterfly

And while I'm at it, I'd just like to say that I hate it when people who are not a certain class and really don't know about that class advise people of that class to do important and irreverseable things. I'm fairly sure we all remember how well Squeek advised us about bowmen back before he ever had one for himself. So, don't listen to banditcom, he's not a fire mage and has never been one. I've been there, I know what I'm talking about.

Ok....

Originally Posted by evilbutterfly

xbows = Cheaper (cuz of less demand), slower and stronger, they rival the power of sins later on.
bows = Insanely expensive in later levels, but faster and weaker. They won't get as big numbers but they'll get more of them faster.

Mostly, it's down to personal preference. Get a bow AND a xbow now and try using both to see which you like. Low level xbows say they're the same speed as bows, but the way the animation lags your firing causes them to be slower regardless. Personally, I hate using xbows and will go as a hunter. I also want a hunter for arrow bomb, which is more useful because of the stun. Xbowmen get a much stronger mob attack, though.

Hypocrisy???
Guys... Being an archer isn't the most exciting class to be, until level 5x that is. Afro, leveling from 10-20 is very difficult if you use a bow, partly because your dex is crap at that time, and also you outdamage a bow with almost any melee weapon at this time. You should have raised your str to 35 by level 12 or so that you can take advantage of this. Leave your dex at 25 for advancement, and the rest into str (go to 35 if you are planning on being a hunter, 30 for xbowman). EB, xbows are cheaper, but they look ugly, iron arrow doesn't stun, and xbows have the horrible lag after each shot. I personally do not like xbows because they are a lot more boring to me. It is a lot harder to jump shoot with them because of the lag, thus meaning no jumping around and having fun with haste. Most xbowman I know stand there and just hold down the attack key until they die of boredom... My hunter, jump shoots, runs around, etc. For any archer, level 30-50 are the hardest levels mainly due to the fact that your damage just flat out sucks. It gets a little easier by level 37 because mastery is maxed (well, at 19) and you have a new bow that you should scroll with 100% if you are short on money. I would make the switch to the level 4x bow around level 45 mainly due to the fact that the 3x bow and xbow both have fast attacking speed. If you scrolled it well, keep it for a while... If not, just ditch it and get a good level 4x bow. By far, the hardest thing for me was level 45-49. By this time, almost every single class does way more damage than most archers (unless you are funded and have a godly level 4x bow, a wg, etc...). The exp needed to level goes up at ridiculous rates levels 45-49. I was lucky to get 10% in an hour and a half... It was that bad. Well, I can't really talk about the 5x's as much or the 6x's mainly because I'm not there yet really. All I know now is that 5x's are much easier than 45-49. I believe that the 5x's are where bowman really start to shine. Now, I'll post some good places to train...
10-20: Slime tree/Mushroom garden (melee weapon)
20-25: Green mushrooms, horny mushrooms (AVOID PIG BEACH! HORRIBLE PLACE FOR ARCHERS...)
25-30: PQ or try your luck at zombie mushies. Zombie mushies are hard at this level because you really aren't that strong and your damage is unpredictable. Zombie mushies are also very very crowded...
30-35: Depeding on your damage, go either zombie mushies or wild boars. Horny mushies are still good if you prefer quantity over quality. Wild boars drain your money, but are overall the best exp at this level.
35-40: Your damage should start to get more stable, and you should be able to kill things much faster and easier. Fire boars or copper drakes, depeding on your damage. It might seem like a jump, but 2-4 hits on a copper is pretty good exp for this level. You should be starting to hit for 700-1k by now, so the burnt land is an option.
40-45: Dangerous Valley, Burnt Land, Star Pixies, Nependaths. Avoid kitties mainly because it is crap exp. The only reason you should ever go there as an archer is if you need a lot of money. Also, now is the time where you get a little richer. Start saving up for an oly...
45-49: Now here is where you will run into trouble. I would recomend lunar pixies because of the great exp, and the chance that it will drop a kimset for you. By now, you should be 2 hitting or 3 hitting them, so see if it is worth your time here. I stayed in ossy for all of these levels, and I am still currently in ossy because of the great exp and the great spawn of the monsters.
50-54: I train on Lusters right now. When I'm bored, I also go to Jr. Yetis if it isn't crowded or hectors. Hectors are good exp if you have a fighter with you because rage helps out a lot. With rage, I 2-3 hit kill the hectors.

Again, I hope this helps out you guys a little bit... If you want me to post some builds for 1st or 2nd job, I would be glad to... Good luck I guess...
O_o