TWG Turbo V: No One Pretends to be the Seer Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I guess I was too focused on Shado to reply to this but
You realize Aryxi has been sheeping the whole game, right?
Not saying he's scum but wouldn't really defend him either

I'll post about why I think he's town regardless of this

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

Ugh AA can we wait until I'm back on a computer I suck at phone typing lmfao

still 8~ hours left in phase, I'm not going to think you're a wolf just because you don't respond immediately lol

also when was that twg, I don't remember

[danceflashrevo]

It was a live twg. Gunslinger.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

If I am seer then charu is green

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

fuck, I mean juckter*

one of the biggest reasons I think he's town is because of these two posts. he makes a check on charu, who isn't in the game, then corrects himself. Now he could have easily brushed it off as shitposting. if you look at the turbo that was rerolled I actually did just that, because I was looking to fake for the seer, thought charu was in the game, and "greened" charu until indheart pointed out he wasn't even in the game, so I acted like I was just messing around.

but aryxi doesn't do that, which makes me think there are a few things that could be happening

1. aryxi is town and wants to help protect the seer and still add confusion, so he restates his check
2. aryxi is wolf and wants to fit in, so he corrects his check

while they both seem similar, I think it's much easier as a wolf to not bother blending in, because you have no incentive to help the seer and fake checking doesn't *really* earn you any townpoints. no one will also push a legit case just off you not checking someone as a reason for being a wolf. since aryxi chose to restate his check and also stated that it was a mistake, it comes off as very honest and town-sided, even if saying it was a mistake kind of invalidates it

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

I understand that I haven't been playing well at all and i'm sorry about that but please don't use my inexperience to try to put the wolf title on me.

the next series of posts that he has ending in this also seem very natural. he wants to point out that in past games he's been trying to say useful things but kind of felt pushed out, and sounds a bit indignant when shado throws shade on him for saying that. MML you mentioned that he'd been sheeping and while I see that, I saw some original thoughts, that while they weren't necessarily super insightful, show that he's thinking.

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

Don't think wolf haku would take notes in that manner lol.

I also think that given that he seems to be a newer player, sheeping off of people and saying that you agree with things isn't as bad as it normally might be. It also didnt' seem like he was just trying to pile on one person, he just seemed to pick things he actually agreed with.

I think this is also actually a good point to bring up

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

I'd like to see juckter's comparison towards the difference in "aggression" between AA and Shado.

and this post seems more characteristic of a new town who wants things to happen, rather than a new wolf who hopes to go unnoticed

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

Anyone have wolf reads yet? Things have been a bit more silent today though so I can't imagine there would be too many. Plus it's day 1 too. I'm just curious.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

It was a live twg. Gunslinger.

how do you like being gunned

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

I'd like to see juckter's comparison towards the difference in "aggression" between AA and Shado.

oh wait this is also sheeped, ignore that

but my point still stands

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

I feel like a wolf may have just been sitting back and watching how D1 unfolded.. James May if you could post a bit more that would be helpful.

also why do you think this?

[R.E. Aryxi]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

also why do you think this?

Nobody really had any wolf reads other than Shado and Haku being weird and self destructive. So I would think that if a wolf tried to lay low for the first day, maybe the wolf is still chillin now. It wouldn't be effective because today's kinda slow but regardless, it's something to consider.

[Precarious]

Back.

If I'm the seer, James is green btw.

[Precarious]

This day seems awfully indefinite. There's a lot of fencing going on, but people seem reluctant to give hard reads imo.

[Precarious]

Anyway, going to take a few minutes to do a post review, and do a sort of updated roster run.

[AragakiAyase]

I'm definitely wrong on one of my reads and james is probably an inactive wolf

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

God this pocket is small

how strongly do you feel about arxyi being a wolf

[danceflashrevo]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

how do you like being gunned

. <--

I'll be back in a few hours

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

wow I passed out for a while

You ok, I hope? I hope you just mean you where sleeping.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

lol

I would say you're a wolf according to that, or you're being stupid, or both

Interesting. I didn't expect that response.
I like how you say that it's gotta be me first, then imply the idea/me is stupid. I think I honestly expected you to outright deny the usefulness of that post count like DFR did.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

this is actually a decent point, but what makes you think that it wasn't convincing to other people or that haku didn't die for a reason other than the seer hunt? While seer hunt is more probable, you shouldn't just rule out the other options

What difference does this make? If wolves ain't looking for the seer for whatever reason then fantastic---but it's simply safer to assume they are.

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

Sorry I was in a car. If you wanna think that go ahead lol. I'm not sure how bussing is sequitur but..

How is aryxis post good. It's only good because it's sided with you. You basically stated that you were saying that I was bussing AA and I was just making sure that's what you meant. So..

AA last time I went against you in twg and you were a wolf you tested me like that God dammit

Arxyi looked like he was pushing you and I like that.
Other then both of us pressuring you how are we in agreement?

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

how strongly do you feel about arxyi being a wolf

Well if you're gonna ask me point blank, none at all. I believe he's a green confused and lost and looking for guidance. Having played or read every FFR TWG he has played, this feels like a natural progression. Oh plus he's my check.

My point is that at the time there wasnt much of a difference between Arxyi and James posting wise, so calling one pure and the other sheep seemed wierd, although I'm sure meta played a role I your choice. With your Arxyi post, I'm pretty ok with it.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Precarious

This day seems awfully indefinite. There's a lot of fencing going on, but people seem reluctant to give hard reads imo.

Didn't want to jump til you arrived and it could be a party

[MixMasterLar]

Precarious are you gonna make a big post?


Are half these players gonna freakin' post I feel like it's me, AA, and DFR are driving this wagon and that's sad

[MixMasterLar]

Jucktel speak to me man

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

You ok, I hope? I hope you just mean you where sleeping.

yes just sleeping

Interesting. I didn't expect that response.
I like how you say that it's gotta be me first, then imply the idea/me is stupid. I think I honestly expected you to outright deny the usefulness of that post count like DFR did.

because while I dislike the idea of blindly following it, it has been right a good number of times, but I'm not a wolf so if there was one it'd be you
and you seem to treat it as near gospel which is stupid

What difference does this make? If wolves ain't looking for the seer for whatever reason then fantastic---but it's simply safer to assume they are.

it matters because dfr is trying to argue that I killed haku

Arxyi looked like he was pushing you and I like that.
Other then both of us pressuring you how are we in agreement?



Well if you're gonna ask me point blank, none at all. I believe he's a green confused and lost and looking for guidance. Having played or read every FFR TWG he has played, this feels like a natural progression. Oh plus he's my check.

My point is that at the time there wasnt much of a difference between Arxyi and James posting wise, so calling one pure and the other sheep seemed wierd, although I'm sure meta played a role I your choice. With your Arxyi post, I'm pretty ok with it.

oh he is your check huh lol

[AragakiAyase]

I don't know what to do with james may at this point, I think he's a wolf but as usual, he isn't doing shit

[Precarious]

danceflashrevo - More active than I had realized. Some active ideas and speculation in play, mixed with fluff posts. The repeated one sentence casual posts sort of bother me, but in a general play rather than a "they're a wolf" way, particularly since everyone does that around here to jack post count. Most interesting aspect is the back-and-forth with AA. Feeling town here.

juckter1 - Inactive, even by my standards. Has pressed others for information without offering any himself, but at least the pressing for people to get their seer reads in is town-positive. I'm still thrown by the thing with Shadow from yesterday, and on rereading his older posts it feels like there's a lot of perfunctory formula stuff without his heart being in it. Not a strong wolf read (and there has to be two of them anyway), but my strongest at this point.

AragakiAyase - Pretty aggressive feeling playstyle. In general, I favor aggression as a pro-town signal, but it can also be used to force away suspicion from yourself, and DFR was probing at AA. Pretty confident in deflecting if they're a wolf. This is a hard one to read because there's a push for activity, but it's contingent on other people. Null read, maybe a slight wolf lean.

R.E. Aryxi - Somehow I thought they were more active today than they actually are, which is weird because the posts aren't very substantial either. Had a weird day yesterday, with the sloppy start (green Charu read), but improved after that. I had initially read R.E.'s general silence after that issue as hiding from it, but they improved in the second half of the day. I can't help but wonder if, having escaped the heat, they've gone back into hibernation. Slight wolf lean.

James May - day 2 green read. Hasn't posted today, so kind of hard to say anything there. If not for the late game interaction and my result today, I'd be a little more suspicious of them. Although they're green, I'd like to see some participation.

MixMasterLar - day 1 green read. Pretty active player. Interesting style of play; seems to mix the high activity low relevance posts with both aggressive/challenging posts and broader game stuff. Overall, that gives a lot of opportunities to read them as a player, which is good. Would feel town even if I hadn't already gotten that result.