TWG VIII (The Matrix Has You) Day 4 - Page 18

blahblah18 · 01-10-2005, 01:49 PM

yeah, I"m going to say this in here to guarantee it gets read... this codenamew codeword crap is all ridiculous and stupid
ALL PM'S SHOULD BE 1 WORD
there will be rthe lsit of 1 word chocies posted BEFORE PM's are sent
They will be from a standard list of KEYWORDS that will be in an announcement... they will include
HUMAN,PSYCHIC,WOLF,GUARDIAN, etcetera... if the host adds a role taht has not been used before, he will psot it first, and thne it will be added to the list... this list will also have a brief description of each role so n00bs know what to do also.
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Afrobean · 01-10-2005, 01:53 PM

I agree blah. That would eliminate all possible ways of PM cheating except SSing which would be easy to fake anyway.

**Squeek** · 01-10-2005, 01:57 PM

Afro, to answer the question again and to make sure everybody hears it, YES, you CAN reveal your codename to other people. HOWEVER, I strongly advise against doing so since it gives away your role. If you can trust the person, please, continue. If not, I'd suggest holding off on it.

To clear it up again:

Anonymous: Wait.
Anonymous: If you can say your codename,
Anonymous: can't you prove to people you're human?
Stop Drop and Di: You can, but you can lie about it, right?
Stop Drop and Di: I can tell you that I'm Neo.
Stop Drop and Di: You have no way of proving it.
Anonymous: Ok I see.

~Squeek

blahblah18 · 01-10-2005, 02:08 PM

ok, i understand..
its like saying , 'I'm the seer'

you can say it, but it proves nothignh because there's noi proof
so i can say "i'm neo, i'm tank, i'm dozer, i'm your mom"
but its all at face value... I still think its a rather stupid thing to add that jst makes for more chances of ridciulosuness though, but thats jsut me

**Squeek** · 01-10-2005, 02:10 PM

Tank and Dozer couldn't jack into the Matrix.

Hence the reason I didn't include them in the game.

Kthx.

~Squeek

evilbutterfly · 01-10-2005, 02:22 PM

I also agree with blah. One word PMs and do all the explaining in the first post of the game. Eliminates cheating. Also, if people report cheating it will discourage it.

And no, the psychic was not mistaken. I rechecked with Squeek to make sure the psychic is told a number rather than the result of the killing (as he once said). Squeek said that the psychic is told the number of wolves left. Psychic told me only two wolves left, meaning tsuteto AND LD were wolves. We'll have the rest soon, I hope.

Lupin_the_3rd · 01-10-2005, 02:26 PM

That doesnt make any sense then...unless LD tried to fake screenshot a role or something. I doubt a wolf would be likely to reveal their true pms : \

evilbutterfly · 01-10-2005, 02:32 PM

I was told he copied and pasted part of his PM, not including his codename/role. This, he thought, was not against the rules, and he must have been smart enough to only copy a part that seemed human. I don't know exactly what he copy/pasted, but it was enough to convince at least one person of his "humanity." Good thing the psychic's reading proves otherwise.

Now we just need to piece together the info from Days 1 and 2 and kick the wolves' asses. Shouldn't be too hard.

M-A-C · 01-10-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by evilbutterfly

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Originally Posted by A bit paraphrased (so you can't tell who it is by how they type), but still, the Psychic

Guess what? Only two wolves left!!

HOORAY!

So...I guess LD was a wolf.

**Kilgamayan** · 01-10-2005, 03:35 PM

I find it relatively amusing that the whole PM thing started in my game, but now since I won't be hosting games here anymore it had to be me that came up with the PM solution. >_>

**alainbryden** · 01-10-2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsuteto

Bah, lightdarkness. Why? Because I'm going to be lynched no matter what now, and I want him a little higher. Wonder how I'm lynched when Squeek posts the story...

I see now why Tsuteto changed his vote at the last minute before death. He didn't want to seem connected to LD after it was found out by the psychic he was a wolf.

QreepyBORIS · 01-10-2005, 04:36 PM

ror i r 24 pajizzzzz

**lightdarkness** · 01-10-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by evilbutterfly

I was told he copied and pasted part of his PM, not including his codename/role. This, he thought, was not against the rules, and he must have been smart enough to only copy a part that seemed human. I don't know exactly what he copy/pasted, but it was enough to convince at least one person of his "humanity." Good thing the psychic's reading proves otherwise.

Now we just need to piece together the info from Days 1 and 2 and kick the wolves' asses. Shouldn't be too hard.

What I did was I made up a paragraph that looked like something that would be in a PM. I never said it was a PM, although it was obviously implied.

Full details will be posted in post-game, but for now I shall leave this thread for good.

Squeek, if you want me to delete this post, let me know.

M-A-C · 01-10-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by QreepyBORIS

ror i r 24 pajizzzzz

Why are you here? Only post in this game if your actually playing. Go postwhore somewhere else.

**alainbryden** · 01-10-2005, 04:50 PM

You tell 'em mac. Okay, now we really need to get back to the game. There's been nothing but talk about rules for the past while.

nforcer06164 · 01-10-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by M-A-C

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Originally Posted by evilbutterfly

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Originally Posted by A bit paraphrased (so you can't tell who it is by how they type), but still, the Psychic

Guess what? Only two wolves left!!

HOORAY!

So...I guess LD was a wolf.

Wow, you really seem surprised. You're really convincing me. Did you see any of eb's subsequent posts? Just reconfirms my suspicion that you're a wolf. Let me quote a post I had before about this for you guys that I had on page 21 yesterday...

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Originally Posted by nforcer06164

One of my suspicions lies on Tsuteto. His vote is backed by little to no logic. He basically said, "This is my vote." M-A-C is acting the same way... but with absolutely NO LOGIC at all.

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Originally Posted by M-A-C

I vote alainbryden

After the ending chaos of Day 1, it would've been smart for wolves to space their votes to avoid suspicion of bandwagoning. But the absence of logic, along with Tsuteto's holed logic, makes them look linked. I highly suspect that they are both wolves. But for now, I'm voting Tsuteto. His post being the initial one on this duo makes me think he's the ringleader of the operation.

Now that tsuteto is gone, you're next, M-A-C.

JurseyRider734 · 01-10-2005, 05:50 PM

nforcer has a point. I'm suspicious of him, but he can't be a wolf because he voted for someone who was lynched that was a wolf. I'm going to think it over...voting for M-A-C, but ncforcer is most likely right.

M-A-C · 01-10-2005, 05:59 PM

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Wow, you really seem surprised. You're really convincing me. Did you see any of eb's subsequent posts?

As a matter of fact I did. No I wasn't suprised, I was confused. I didn't know why LD would show his PM if he was the wolf.

EDIT: My reasoning for voting for him was the fight between him and Afro. I know Afro is a very smart person so I was thinking that he might try to stage a fight to throw people of the two wolves trail. I now know that wasn't the plan, and that was a stupid vote. This is because if they did actually stage a fight that brought my vote, along with many others. I'm new at this so I didn't realize that before. Go on laugh at the stupid kid ha ha ha.

Anyway now I know how to be more careful when voting.

evilbutterfly · 01-10-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JurseyRider734

but he can't be a wolf because he voted for someone who was lynched that was a wolf

Tsuteto voted for LD. They were both wolves.

And MAC, if you read LD's post, he just made up a PM. He didn't actually copy and paste.

nforcer06164 · 01-10-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by M-A-C, soon after voting for Tsuteto,

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Originally Posted by Tsuteto

M-A-C, you seem to always go after me whenever you make a random vote. I think you're jealous of me :P

Anyways, looking back, I'm going to vote for alainbryden. All I can tell is that his posts, while all in good intention, just lacked the flesh around the bones. They were seeming to me always too loose.

Yes, I have a crush on you avatar. Really I saw you had no votes so I just picked you. Simple as that.

It was quite the casual change, no? And he had no votes, plainly stated. Good way for n00b wolves to pull suspicion off of each other, right? That's what it seems like to me.

Jursey, thanks for making me go back to that posting period for Day 1 to confirm what you said about M-A-C voting for a wolf. You voted for M-A-C that day. You were part of that strange voting circle, too. Now, you said something yesterday, and it sounded wolfy. Here's what my post soon after looked like:

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Originally Posted by nforcer06164

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Originally Posted by JurseyRider734

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Originally Posted by nforcer06164

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Originally Posted by alainbryden

Ld wasn't in jeopardy, Jursey, Tsuteto was in the lead for votes, and I was tied with LD. Your spastic voting is not doing favors to your credibility.

If alain is right about the voting status, then he's right, Jursey. You're spastic flip-flopping, especially consisting of only two people, is starting to look mighty suspicious.

BTW, alain, eb changed his vote from nforcer06164 to lightdarkness...

Ha. All I can say is it's not my fault.

Now you're right up there with M-A-C and Tsuteto on my suspicion list.

After looking at this and the strange voting circle, you've just upped my suspicions once again. Why in God's name would you point out that he voted for a wolf if you voted for him?

Is it just me, or is this all just falling into place way too easily?

01-10-2005, 01:49 PM	#341
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	yeah, I"m going to say this in here to guarantee it gets read... this codenamew codeword crap is all ridiculous and stupid ALL PM'S SHOULD BE 1 WORD there will be rthe lsit of 1 word chocies posted BEFORE PM's are sent They will be from a standard list of KEYWORDS that will be in an announcement... they will include HUMAN,PSYCHIC,WOLF,GUARDIAN, etcetera... if the host adds a role taht has not been used before, he will psot it first, and thne it will be added to the list... this list will also have a brief description of each role so n00bs know what to do also. [/end rant] __________________ but for now... postCount++

01-10-2005, 01:53 PM	#342
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 38 Posts: 13,262	I agree blah. That would eliminate all possible ways of PM cheating except SSing which would be easy to fake anyway. __________________

01-10-2005, 02:08 PM	#344
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	ok, i understand.. its like saying , 'I'm the seer' you can say it, but it proves nothignh because there's noi proof so i can say "i'm neo, i'm tank, i'm dozer, i'm your mom" but its all at face value... I still think its a rather stupid thing to add that jst makes for more chances of ridciulosuness though, but thats jsut me __________________ but for now... postCount++

01-10-2005, 02:22 PM	#346
evilbutterfly FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Small town, TN Age: 39 Posts: 5,784	I also agree with blah. One word PMs and do all the explaining in the first post of the game. Eliminates cheating. Also, if people report cheating it will discourage it. And no, the psychic was not mistaken. I rechecked with Squeek to make sure the psychic is told a number rather than the result of the killing (as he once said). Squeek said that the psychic is told the number of wolves left. Psychic told me only two wolves left, meaning tsuteto AND LD were wolves. We'll have the rest soon, I hope. __________________ So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

01-10-2005, 02:32 PM	#348
evilbutterfly FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Small town, TN Age: 39 Posts: 5,784	I was told he copied and pasted part of his PM, not including his codename/role. This, he thought, was not against the rules, and he must have been smart enough to only copy a part that seemed human. I don't know exactly what he copy/pasted, but it was enough to convince at least one person of his "humanity." Good thing the psychic's reading proves otherwise. Now we just need to piece together the info from Days 1 and 2 and kick the wolves' asses. Shouldn't be too hard. __________________ So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

01-10-2005, 01:57 PM	#343
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 14,444	Afro, to answer the question again and to make sure everybody hears it, YES, you CAN reveal your codename to other people. HOWEVER, I strongly advise against doing so since it gives away your role. If you can trust the person, please, continue. If not, I'd suggest holding off on it. To clear it up again: Anonymous: Wait. Anonymous: If you can say your codename, Anonymous: can't you prove to people you're human? Stop Drop and Di: You can, but you can lie about it, right? Stop Drop and Di: I can tell you that I'm Neo. Stop Drop and Di: You have no way of proving it. Anonymous: Ok I see. ~Squeek

01-10-2005, 02:10 PM	#345
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 14,444	Tank and Dozer couldn't jack into the Matrix. Hence the reason I didn't include them in the game. Kthx. ~Squeek

01-10-2005, 02:26 PM	#347
Lupin_the_3rd FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,665	That doesnt make any sense then...unless LD tried to fake screenshot a role or something. I doubt a wolf would be likely to reveal their true pms : \

01-10-2005, 03:35 PM	#350
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 41 Posts: 6,583	I find it relatively amusing that the whole PM thing started in my game, but now since I won't be hosting games here anymore it had to be me that came up with the PM solution. >_> __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

01-10-2005, 04:36 PM	#352
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 35 Posts: 7,454	ror i r 24 pajizzzzz __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

01-10-2005, 04:50 PM	#355
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	You tell 'em mac. Okay, now we really need to get back to the game. There's been nothing but talk about rules for the past while. __________________ ~NEIGH

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