Ingame Song Information

[justin_ator]

Yes, Red Wings Over Bacon needs to be on there as well =]

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by XCV

These have been bothering me for a while.

Im Sick of Uprock -> I'm Sick of Uprock
Torinouta -> Tori no Uta (not sure about this one)
Of course you need and .. NEED ME -> Of course you need and...NEED ME

Uprock should be changed.

need [...] is a shortened song title for the sake of fitting the title on the game screen (original: Of course you Need and nEed and neEd and neeD and NEED me)

[XCV]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

need [...] is a shortened song title for the sake of fitting the title on the game screen (original: Of course you Need and nEed and neEd and neeD and NEED me)

I know I'm being dickish about this, but getting rid of the spaces and adding a period would get rid of a character as well as fixing the grammar.

[jimerax]

Im Sick of Uprock -> This is the original song name, so leaving this as it is.
Torinouta -> fixed for the consistency of Japanese songs
Of course you Need and .. NEED ME -> didn't know there's a grammar issue on this. fixed

And yeah I know we need to do something about genres, especially dance and misc are getting ridiculous.

ps also, can someone write current top xx things?

[ichliebekase]

- FFR songs TOP 10's -
-----------------------------------
MAX COMBO
(Most)
1. Red Wings Over Baron (4312)
2. World Tour 2004 (3940)
3. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (3648)
4. Blue Rose (3622)
5. Blue Army (3330)
6. STRAWBERRY SWEETZ (3250)
7. ==Planet Karma== (3075)
8. Pants (3024)
9. Holy Orders (2758)
10. Max Forever (2709)
(Least)
1. Excite Bike (32)
2. Free Space (FFR Edit) (59)
3. Power (61)
4. Prelude No. 7 (91)
5. Eien Meikyu (100)
6. Norfolk Gals (103)
7. Pita (106)
8. Etude in E Major (112)
9. 5.1.1. (AG Supercool Mix) (118)
10. Love You Anymore (120)

Length (TOP 5 each)
(Longest)
1. World Tour 2004 (8:38)
2. Red Wings Over Baron (7:52)
3. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (6:36)
3. Blue Army (6:36)
5. ==Planet KARMA== (6:24)
(Shortest)
1. Excite Bike (0:09)
2. Yoshi’s Cookie (0:25)
3. Norfolk Gals (0:29)
4. Brooks Was Here [Heavy] (0:31)
5. Pita (0:32)

I don't have the average taps per second, will work on that in the morning. Figured this would be a good start.

[TC_Halogen]

I'm on it, JX. Calculating all of the TPS counts for all of the FGOs, and I'll have them rearranged. None of the new 11s are going to pass FotBB, but I will check Of Course ... NEED, etc.

EDIT: looks like Sara ninja'd the first half that I had finished, but I'm about halfway done with the TPS counts

[TC_Halogen]

Correct lists (Sara's list had two songs not accounted for under max combo):

MAX COMBO:
(Most)
0. Vertex Beta vROFL (4,616)
1. Red Wings Over Baron (4,311)
2. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (3,648)
3. Blue Rose (3,622)
4. Blue Army (3,330)
5. STRAWBERRY SWEETZ (3,250)
6. ==Planet KARMA== (3,075)
7. Pants (3,024)
8. La Campanella (2,888)
9. Little God Channel (2,814)
10. Holy Orders (2,758)

(Least)
1. Excite Bike (32)
2. Free Space (FFR Edit) (59)
3. Power (61)
4. Prelude No. 7 (91)
5. Eien Meikyu (100)
6. Norfolk Gals (103)
7. Pita (106)
8. Etude in E Major (112)
9. 5.1.1 (AG Supercool Mix) (118)
10. Love You Anymore (120)

LENGTH:
Longest (5):
1. World Tour 2004 (8:38)
2. Red Wings Over Baron (7:52)
3. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival/Blue Army (6:36)
4. ==Planet KARMA== (6:24)
5. Blue Rose (6:00)

Shortest (5):
1. Excite Bike (0:09)
2. Yoshi’s Cookie (0:25)
3. Norfolk Gals (0:29)
4. Brooks Was Here [Heavy] (0:31)
5. Pita (0:32)

TOP AVERAGE TPS
0. Vertex BETA vROFL: 184s, 4616 notes = 25.09 T/S
1. Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: 94s, 1600 notes = 17.02 T/s
2. OMGWTFT0K3N: 125s, 1923 notes = 15.38 T/S
3. The Adventures of Lolo: 36s, 524 notes = 14.55 T/S
4. Death Piano: 174s, 2420 notes = 13.91 T/S
5. Here We Go: 89s, 1203 notes = 13.52 T/S
6. Winter Wind Etude: 186s, 2407 notes = 12.94 T/S
7. 11ELEVEN: 121s, 1528 notes = 12.63 T/S
8. Eclipse (Solar): 115s, 1445 notes = 12.57 T/S
9. Kidney Stone: 129s, 1619 notes = 12.55 T/S
10. Across Rooftops: 181s, 2254 notes = 12.45 T/S

TPS for all 12+:
The Adventures of Lolo: 36s, 524 notes = 14.55 T/s
grind2: 72s, 878 notes = 12.19 T/s
Reality: 77s, 921 notes = 11.96 T/s
Saddest RMX: 78s, 919 notes = 11.78 T/s
Here We Go: 89s, 1203 notes = 13.52 t/s
Nomina Nuda Tenemus: 91s, 987 notes = 10.85 T/s
Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: 94s, 1600 notes = 17.02 T/s
I Hate The 80s: 102s, 1008 notes = 9.88 T/s
One Minute Waltz: 106s, 1057 notes = 9.97 T/s
Hardkore Atomic: 108s, 1034 notes = 9.57 T/S
Molto Vivace: 110s, 1177 notes = 10.70 T/S
Frictional Nevada: 112s, 1325 notes = 11.83 T/S
Eclipse (Solar): 115s, 1445 notes = 12.57 T/S
Counter Clockwise Chant Pattern: 116s, 1423 notes = 12.27 T/S
Electro Rush x8 v2: 117s, 1215 notes = 10.38 T/S
Time to Eye: 118s, 1148 notes = 9.73 T/S
11ELEVEN: 121s, 1528 notes = 12.63 T/S
OMGWTFT0K3N: 125s, 1923 notes = 15.38 T/S
DeVouR: 127s, 1478 notes = 11.64 T/S
Kidney Stone: 129s, 1619 notes = 12.55 T/S
Einstein-Rosen Bridge: 134s, 1282 notes = 9.57 T/S
J'ai Envie de Plaisir X2: 137s, 1652 notes = 12.06 T/S
Schmollbluk: 138s, 1645 notes = 11.92 T/S
Sparkle Downer: 144s, 1360 notes = 9.44 T/S
Rage Template: 145s, 1580 notes = 10.90 T/S
Necropotence: 150s, 1695 notes = 11.30 T/S
Magical 8bit Tour: 156s, 1877 notes = 12.03 T/S
Crowdpleaser: 158s, 1236 notes = 7.82 T/S
Ketsarku Mozgalom: 158s, 1635 notes = 10.35 T/S
Almost There: 164s, 1922 notes = 11.72 T/S
Revolutionary Etude: 166s, 1600 notes = 9.64 T/S
Death Piano: 174s, 2420 notes = 13.91 T/S
Across Rooftops: 181s, 2254 notes = 12.45 T/S
Vertex BETA vROFL: 184s, 4616 notes = 25.09 T/S
Winter Wind Etude: 186s, 2407 notes = 12.94 T/S
Integraation: 190s, 1930 notes = 10.16 T/S
Mephisto Waltz: 193s, 1842 notes = 9.54 T/S
RAN: 204s, 1754 notes = 8.60 T/S
Tageri: 204s, 1945 notes = 9.53 T/S
Grand Galop Chromatique: 206s, 2361 notes = 11.46 T/S
La Campanella: 249s, 2888 notes = 11.60 T/S
Little God Channel: 256s, 2814 notes = 10.99 T/S
Holy Orders: 260s, 2758 notes = 10.61 T/S
Strawberry Sweetz: 294s, 3250 notes = 11.05 T/S
Pants: 358s, 3024 notes = 8.45 T/S
Blue Rose: 360s, 3622 notes = 10.06 T/S
==Planet KARMA==: 384s, 3075 notes = 8.01 T/S
Red Wings Over Baron: 472s, 4311 notes = 9.13 T/S

Of Course: 168s, 1856 notes = 11.05 T/S (just in case)

[jimerax]

thanks, updated the list.

[qqwref]

I don't know how Halogen is calculating taps/second, but I would like to do it like this: (30 * number of arrows) (last frame of arrows - first frame of arrows + 1). This way the number of empty frames before the first arrow doesn't matter. I think this would change up the counts a bit. Also we should definitely consider some of the higher FMOs for the list.

[igotrhythm]

I'm going to go ahead and say that Reality's average TPS is incredibly deceiving, as the 77s figure takes into account the empty intro. Take off the 10 second radio announcement (or whatever) and you get 921 notes/67 seconds = 13.75 T/S, which is in line with most of the other FGOs listed. ERB has the same deal, but it's less noticeable because the intro takes up a lower percentage of the file's length. True, busting out a list like this is incredibly repetitive and draining--I know this from experience--but QQ does have a good point.

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by qqwref

I don't know how Halogen is calculating taps/second, but I would like to do it like this: (30 * number of arrows) (last frame of arrows - first frame of arrows + 1). This way the number of empty frames before the first arrow doesn't matter. I think this would change up the counts a bit. Also we should definitely consider some of the higher FMOs for the list.

I can reconsider the calculations tomorrow; I was just going by length/arrows, as JX was previously doing. I definitely agree with you quite a bit.

Also, I didn't include the 11s because I was pretty sure that none of them would make it onto the top 10 list anyway -- you've got to be moving pretty quickly to get that high up.

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

I'm going to go ahead and say that Reality's average TPS is incredibly deceiving, as the 77s figure takes into account the empty intro. Take off the 10 second radio announcement (or whatever) and you get 921 notes/67 seconds = 13.75 T/S, which is in line with most of the other FGOs listed. ERB has the same deal.

Yeah, I'm aware of this. I'll probably take the time off tomorrow to try and get a true value by using frame counts. Thanks for bringing that up, qqwref.

[jimerax]

That looks more accurate, and better if it isn't difficult for you.

[qqwref]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

Also, I didn't include the 11s because I was pretty sure that none of them would make it onto the top 10 list anyway -- you've got to be moving pretty quickly to get that high up.

Ah, but your 10th place has 12.45 taps/second, so anything which consistently manages more than ~187bpm stream has a shot. It's not actually as fast as it sounds if the patterns are nice - a solid streamy file like FotBB/EHHS could potentially make the list.

I had a nice top 10 list back at the Tasselfoot forums a while back (before some new songs got released) but the forum isn't working right now. I actually already have a program to do the frame count stuff.

EDIT: Found it, thanks to Google Cache.
0. Vertex BETA vrofl: 25.65
1. Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: 17.49
2. The Adventures of Lolo: 15.46
3. Death Piano: 14.70
4. Here We Go: 14.10
5. Kidney Stone: 13.62
6. Reality: 13.58
7. Winter Wind Etude: 13.46
8. Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star: 13.20
9. Eclipse (Solar): 13.15
10. Flight of the Bumblebee: 13.05

[JoeSauce]

can some one tell me what the main song is when you load up the game as its playing in the background ? =) it would be greatly appreciated thanks!!

[TC_Halogen]

Emotions, by Trance Control.

[JoeSauce]

Why thank you kind sir.

[jimerax]

Just did some genre tweaks, reduced the # of misc songs a bit, etc.

[HammyMcSquirrel]

Sprite and I would usually update the FAQ with the current list of secret songs but we're just gonna put a link to this thread instead. With that said, I added Voodoo People to the list. I also put in the page links for the songs that didn't have them. I hope you don't mind.

On a side note... I don't know about you, Jimerax, but I get a slow response and sometimes database errors that require some refreshing to get past when I make edits to the OP. You may want to consider some way of breaking it up to have less characters. I ran across this problem with the pseudo token thread. The OP eventually contained so much information that I couldn't edit it. I had to break it up into multiple posts. It seems you may be getting to that point here.

[qqwref]

Voodoo People is really hard for a 9 (lots of minijacks and some trills with jumps). I'd say it should absolutely be a 10. We'd need to wait a while to see how people are doing on it, but to me it is absolutely too hard for a 9.

[bmah]

I thought it was a 9, IMO. Just be consistent. And if you don't like left-handed minijacks, you can always mirror and try the converse.