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  • stavie33
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2006
    • 1925

    #2536
    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
    wat
    Yeah, I'm right there with you
    It's getting better all the time
    I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
    The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
    You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
    Turning me round (Oh Oh)
    Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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    • qqwref
      stepmania archaeologist
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2005
      • 4092

      #2537
      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

      Anyone think Dimensions Of A Square could pass as a low VC? It's not fast or anything but the continuous 24th gallops (with plenty of jumps, no less) is quite a bit harder to read/PA than standard stream. And it's not just bursts, the entire song is tricky, so I think it's definitely harder than some of the stream-and-jumps low VCs.

      Also, it's been out for about as long as Katharsis (a solid VC IMO), and has fewer notes, but Katharsis has 35 AAA's whereas DoaS only has 21.
      Last edited by qqwref; 07-26-2009, 07:59 PM.
      Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
      Best SDG: PANTS (86)
      Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #2538
        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

        Originally posted by 0
        they could have it listed as a VC and still have it as 7 tier points. For FFR is worth 7 tier points and it's easy.
        AAA it first before saying it's easy. >_>

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        • stavie33
          FFR Player
          • Aug 2006
          • 1925

          #2539
          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
          AAA it first before saying it's easy. >_>
          yeah, it's an easy 2-0-0-0 or less, but the AAA is damn annoying, ****in' mini jacks...
          It's getting better all the time
          I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
          The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
          You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
          Turning me round (Oh Oh)
          Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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          • One Winged Angel
            Anime Avatars ( ◜◡^)っ✂╰⋃╯
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2007
            • 10837

            #2540
            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

            Probably should've posted this here originally instead of the subby scores thread

            Originally posted by One Winged Angel
            lmao out of the four songs, hyoukai took me the longest to AAA rofl

            I think it's fine as a low 8

            Didj PVC is really cool...high VC, probably 74

            Dimensions Of A Square I only played once, but I think it should be low VC instead. The 24th gallop sections have some weird patterns, and then it gets slightly polyrhythmic at the very end of the stepfile. Really sick song, though.

            Katharsis was pretty cool too


            Originally posted by ilikexd
            i want to be cucked by cirno

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            • stavie33
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2006
              • 1925

              #2541
              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

              Originally posted by One Winged Angel
              Probably should've posted this here originally instead of the subby scores thread
              The second I played DJDJ PVC, I realized it was high VC material, 74 were my exact thoughts, right on!

              Now there's a new song that's evil as ****, grind2, holy **** at that song, that is sooo hard! 88 or 89?

              Also, been playing through the shrapnel songs again, and Kamonene should be challenging, but looking at Shind Bad, that should be much higher in difficulty for a challenging, it's fast and has icky gap patterns. I'd give it a 67, opinions?
              Last edited by stavie33; 08-2-2009, 07:25 PM.
              It's getting better all the time
              I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
              The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
              You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
              Turning me round (Oh Oh)
              Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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              • mhss1992
                FFR Player
                • Sep 2007
                • 788

                #2542
                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                Originally posted by stavie33
                Also, been playing through the shrapnel songs again, and Kamonene should be challenging, but looking at Shind Bad, that should be much higher in difficulty for a challenging, it's fast and has icky gap patterns. I'd give it a 66, opinions?
                Seriously, I always thought 63 was absurd for Shind Bad. I have a huge personal difficulty at it's gallops, they are REALLY annoying for me.
                On a subjective view, I'd give it 69 (not kidding), It's harder than DMYK, Kamonene, Dokudenpa and Ivaltek, for me. But I guess 67 would be fair.

                This is so annoying... I never get the chance to play. I think that if I kept playing regularly after I AAA'd Epidermis, I would be somewhere close to AAA'ing Frictional Nevada or something... But now I suck at even some high C's.
                Last edited by mhss1992; 07-28-2009, 07:03 PM.
                jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

                Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

                Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

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                • stavie33
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 1925

                  #2543
                  Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                  Alright, 2 things:

                  1. Djdj PVC, 74 or 75? Took a while to AAA, cause' it's very tricky, but it's not long and isn't very demanding on the hands (like say, Bus Rides with People and Kil Stage) So it's up to you guys

                  2. Dimensions of a Square is NOT challenging, that song is way too fast and confusing for a challenging file, 24th gallops are really fast and the jumps and 16ths littered throughout don't make things easier, it's also quite demanding on the hands (for the AAA, unless I'm just out of it), I'd give it a 69

                  Opinions?


                  And also

                  WHY ISN'T MY PREVIOUSLY UPDATED LIST PUT ON THE FIRST PAGE? I thought we put it in proper form, with the songs and combos etc.

                  Also, it's time for a newer, updated list, which I will post the entire thing after Grind2 is released (I already know the difficulty for the Piano song, 79, pretty damn sure)

                  P.S.

                  I love this thread, mainly because I care about accurate difficulties as I do in DDR, and I just want to say although no one really comes here often, thank you for those who do, and for all those who help with determining a good difficulty and the lists, thank you, I <3 you all! Hopefully, one day, all the grading will be somewhat accurate upon release, but until then, I hope to keep this thread accurate and alive
                  Last edited by stavie33; 08-2-2009, 07:27 PM.
                  It's getting better all the time
                  I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                  The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                  You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                  Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                  Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                  • freakOmani
                    FFR Player
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 109

                    #2544
                    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                    Frankly I still don't think PianoCore is an FMO at all.

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                    • stavie33
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 1925

                      #2545
                      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                      Originally posted by freakOmani
                      Frankly I still don't think PianoCore is an FMO at all.
                      Pianocore is definitely FMO, have you AAA'd it? The yellow red yellow is annoying, and the trills are evil, including quite a few random jacks created by the 24th notes...it's low FMO, definitely, 77, we've been over this
                      It's getting better all the time
                      I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                      The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                      You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                      Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                      Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                      • freakOmani
                        FFR Player
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 109

                        #2546
                        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                        Just because I haven't AAA'd it doesn't mean I can't opine that it is not FMO level. And yeah, I'm 100% sure I can AAA it, I just don't have the right keyboard for it.

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                        • stavie33
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 1925

                          #2547
                          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                          Originally posted by freakOmani
                          Just because I haven't AAA'd it doesn't mean I can't opine that it is not FMO level. And yeah, I'm 100% sure I can AAA it, I just don't have the right keyboard for it.
                          If it becomes VC, then Silence, LWIV, NWE, Choprite, and Thrash become VC...so no, I'm leaving it FMO...but I hope you AAA it soon, good luck with getting Oni and stuff
                          It's getting better all the time
                          I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                          The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                          You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                          Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                          Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                          • qqwref
                            stepmania archaeologist
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 4092

                            #2548
                            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                            Originally posted by stavie33
                            If it becomes VC, then Silence, LWIV, NWE, Choprite, and Thrash become VC...so no, I'm leaving it FMO...but I hope you AAA it soon, good luck with getting Oni and stuff
                            Except for Thrash those aren't even FMOs anymore. What is it with people thinking songs are FMO just because they're labeled as a difficulty 11... weird stuff.
                            Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
                            Best SDG: PANTS (86)
                            Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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                            • freakOmani
                              FFR Player
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 109

                              #2549
                              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                              Saying PianoCore is a 77 is saying that it is equal in difficulty to Southern Cross (another song with the same rating). It is not consistently difficult the whole way through like Southern Cross is. It has some difficult sections, but those sections are repetitive and too easy to pick up on after a few plays.

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                              • stavie33
                                FFR Player
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 1925

                                #2550
                                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                                Originally posted by freakOmani
                                Saying PianoCore is a 77 is saying that it is equal in difficulty to Southern Cross (another song with the same rating). It is not consistently difficult the whole way through like Southern Cross is. It has some difficult sections, but those sections are repetitive and too easy to pick up on after a few plays.
                                Southern Cross is 77? That should be 74, that songs a joke, even with avmisses it was an easy AAA...wow, almost every part of pianocore is harder than Southerncross IMO, even the basic < > 8ths followed by 16th than 24th is much harder, I'm changing Southern cross now, 76 at most...who made it 77? wut?

                                Also, Southern Cross had numerous black flags and 3 AAA's on the day of its release, while Pianocore had 1 AAA and like 7 BF's the first day...and Southern Cross came out during avmisses, SC is a joke, Pianocore is not. I understand your opinion, but looking strictly at the charts, pianocore is much more challenging, southern cross is just basic jumpstream, nothing tricky bout' it. Pianocore has icky repeating patterns, lots of pressure on the right hand, plenty of 24th jacks (with jumps too!) and quite a few hard trills. On top of that, after the trills there are more jumps then 24th jack patterns that appear near the end, it's much harder.

                                Also, if I were going by what songs I find easiest, I'd say FF7LBF and EHHS should be VC's, because I think they're jokes, IMO, they are MUCH easier and more straightforward than pianocore, but I look at the charts now (<3 TC_Hal) and judge on that, and you should too, and if you are, then idk, because nothing in SC is harder than Piano
                                Last edited by stavie33; 08-3-2009, 05:27 PM.
                                It's getting better all the time
                                I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                                The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                                You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                                Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                                Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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