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12-5-2013, 05:09 PM | #322 |
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...Wait, did this thread seriously turn into a discussion about evolution for a bit?
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12-5-2013, 10:10 PM | #324 |
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yeah what happened something about thermometers and dodo birds n shit
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and again, nothing about evolution or benard cells backs up your claim that the amount of entropy something creates has anything to do with how preferred it will be. all you can talk about is things that are able to exist within a certain amount of entropy, not what is preferred because of the amount of entropy that thing creates.
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12-6-2013, 10:13 AM | #330 |
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aright well instead of saying "there is a whole field of study that proves this point", why dont you just post some evidence.
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12-6-2013, 10:30 AM | #332 |
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I feel that life, and therefore evolution, exist rather almost in spite of the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
To me, entropy and evolution aren't 2 drastically separate things. They almost feel like the same idea, but evolution in terms of genes etc. just has a much smaller scope. Beyond that they're also connected because the origins of life had to have developed somehow, and the same laws that created it, well, ended up becoming what we now call evolution. So no, it's not just like saying the big bang cooked my noodles. Evolution and entropy are far more parallel, or at the very least are analogous. Keeping photos of molested children is wrong from one reason in my mind atm, because the child or adult would not want you to have them. They didn't give consent at the time of abuse, so it only makes sense they wouldn't consent to having someone then get off to them later on. Of course there's the fact that they don't know that someone's jacking off to them, so it makes it less or possibly not wrong, but that line of reasoning can be used for so much other deception that most people think of as wrong. One may personally feel wrong about it (like adlp), but without actions that harm people, it's not right for it to be illegal. As to having institutions for pedophiles, (the link seemed to be broken btw svaz), it shouldn't be about what's 'useful' but about what's right. If we have utility as the basis for our morality, then we can end up in places like saying all disabled people should be killed. Of course, most criminals could probably use rehabilitation instead of regular prison too, but we hardly have the resources for that. I dunno what's with all the people hating on the thread, I <3 this thread, every, single, post. |
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12-6-2013, 10:42 AM | #334 |
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alright, did some reading.
you are neglecting quantum mechanics and arguing determinism, right?
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12-6-2013, 11:09 AM | #335 |
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It's kind of amazing how a simple ethical debate about pedophilia and mental disease has become a debate about quantum mechanics and determinism. I just. Wow.
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12-6-2013, 10:13 PM | #336 |
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People still making that entropy argument? Even if evolution did increase entropy (which is not necessarily true), the law requiring an increase of entropy only applies to an *isolated* system, which the Earth certainly is not. Energy comes into our system through, for instance, that big bright ball of gas in the sky, and exits through mechanisms such as heat radiation and radio waves.
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