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[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by FictionJunction

on the other hand, you have people like blind and guest who are cruising. That's also easy to do but harder to land on.

You know I'll be the first to tell you to go with your gut but once I die you'll have to make a call between two 'unreadables.'

I'll also call you out on clearing guest for inactivity and clearing ___ for just coming in.

I took back my clear on Guest

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by FictionJunction

let's put it this way, if you're going to filter people out because the gun kill doesn't make sense for one player, you should probably apply that filter over everyone, otherwise you're just making up excuses to kill people.

It was weak and I agree; anyone could've done it. But if you look at what I did; that would only make sense there IF I pushed on Gun, which I didn't do.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by FictionJunction

superficial reads don't cut it in a game this small - it'll never be the first thing you see

and that's why I'm banking on you, because you've given the most input. I think an easy strategy would be to hide in the open.

Honestly I understand the logic here but I wouldn't really do that. I wouldn't bus Mittens in that scenario either; that doesn't make any sense for me to do. I would just go for the win.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

I'm so vinalla I'm still a bean. I still have eyes towards fic, but I can't help but show him love

obviously not vanilla b/c you can't spell vanilla

[blindreper1179]

Damn you caught me =(

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

It was weak and I agree; anyone could've done it. But if you look at what I did; that would only make sense there IF I pushed on Gun, which I didn't do.

Look sunfan this is frustrating because you keep saying oh man that would make sense if I had done X and I didn't do X so I'm not what you say I am, when in fact anything that can be il reduced to simple steps that determine you're Y over Z will never ever ever ever confirm you in either direction

Don't you understand that because you can simplify it that way you're basically admitting you could be red? That laying it out so plainly is just as easily be a smokescreen as it could be real green concern

If you want to play the game at least try to pretend you have real shit to talk about

If you want to focus on players who might obviously benefit from this BS then that's be super nice but until then plz

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Honestly I understand the logic here but I wouldn't really do that. I wouldn't bus Mittens in that scenario either; that doesn't make any sense for me to do. I would just go for the win.

If you really want to bring up past behaviour then you would know that I wouldn't take the time to write serious posts if I didn't believe in what I was talking about regardless of risk - would I be doing this as a red? Yes. Would I be doing this as a green? Def yes. So if you're going to lynch me at least give me something that would make me be ok wih the lynch.

Until then I suggest you reconsider

[FictionJunction]

Either way that sort of self anecdotal evidence is BS and you know it and if it didn't leave a sour taste coming out of yor mouth then I don't know what you're doing here

[FictionJunction]

The deductive strategy here is to look at xel and determine his relationship to the current roster.

He wouldn't be the leader is any pairing. It'd be completely flat at best - but with me, you and jayde before he got replaced, xel would be a follower

[FictionJunction]

In every other case I don't expect that quick topic to have many orders or sudden big decisions that aren't at least discussed once. To that end who would xel play he way he did with? And would he follow orders? And if not, would it matter to the person he's teamed up with?

[FictionJunction]

The answer to the last question is probably nobody. But there are revealing pieces of info: the kills. Bad call on funny, lucky guess on gun. Funny's death is obviously more revealing. I peg you as someone who has 'reacted naturally to stupid decisions' long enough to be able to fake them and premeditate them - as a matter of fact, you would need to as a wolf, everyone would.

[FictionJunction]

but if I'm wasting my time I would like you to stop me before I make a stronger case, unearthing convenience is the best thing I do to find reds and it often leads to false positives. But hey, whatever, fuck me. I die, you have a harder time.

[FictionJunction]

meanwhile *popcorn* human cannibalization

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by FictionJunction

Either way that sort of self anecdotal evidence is BS and you know it and if it didn't leave a sour taste coming out of yor mouth then I don't know what you're doing here

not everyone plays the same way and you of all of people know that; its something you should know I wouldn't do I think.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by FictionJunction

The deductive strategy here is to look at xel and determine his relationship to the current roster.

He wouldn't be the leader is any pairing. It'd be completely flat at best - but with me, you and jayde before he got replaced, xel would be a follower

he was a follower if you look at his votes
def on the James lynch at least as well as his read on gun

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by FictionJunction

The answer to the last question is probably nobody. But there are revealing pieces of info: the kills. Bad call on funny, lucky guess on gun. Funny's death is obviously more revealing. I peg you as someone who has 'reacted naturally to stupid decisions' long enough to be able to fake them and premeditate them - as a matter of fact, you would need to as a wolf, everyone would.

because I have the ability to do something logically it must follow that I did it I agree

[thesunfan]

like you keep throwing out scenarios where I'm a wolf when I don't even understand why you're tunneling on me other than because you think I'm capable enough to have done what has been done. Yes I can sit here and say "I did this and I'm human" or "I didn't do this and I'm human." I know you don't care about that. *I had to delete a rant here saying what I expect you to do instead before I realized I'm trying to get a cat person to adopt a dog*
I really don't care what I expect to have gone on in the quicktopic for all I know its you and Mittens and you never looked at it. I think you've done something similar to that at least before. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. idgaf in all honesty. Doesn't look like Mittens was even involved in "Any important decisions" to me anyways.

To address an earlier point I want people to read me (and everyone else as well) independent of what they say they would do, obviously you can't take things at face value in this game. I'm pointing out why your thought process doesn't make sense though. Just because you *think* I could be doing this it doesn't logically follow that I did it. I don't see any other world that you could be living in which I guess is actually ok b/c I guess you and I are different in that regard I guess idk. Either way; your tunnel is actually kind of stupid.

Anyways after a reread I feel like I want to kill Blind less now since I think he was ahead of his time in his reads, although they were unsubstantiated and a bit easy to make. I think I get how someone could've thought Gun was a role now; was a bit confused as to how he got sniped earlier. If I had to guess I'd say that we're in the boring ol' B setup where the Cop is the only important role rather than column. I could be wrong idk. Anyways I'm kinda torn as to who the wolf is if its not fic. I'm less sure on blind now. I guess I'm at Guest?

Talking about the Mittens lynch: It doesn't make sense for Jayde to be a wolf imo b/c he could've put the vote at a KitB pretty easily (Yeah it would look bad but its a move he could've made). Doesn't read too strongly in the end. BUT, he left his vote on Mittens once the phase was extended when he easily could've taken it off and pushed for someone else. Blind and I talked about when to bus after our last game ended together but I think he would try to save Mittens there rather than get him killed. Maybe not and its not as strong as Jayde imo. Guest's vote actually makes the most sense if Guest is a wolf imo. I cleared him for a stupid reason there; my bad.

[thesunfan]

to express a point about the last paragraph: It doesn't mean that's what I believe to have 100% happened. Its what I think happened. I'm looking at everything that's happened so far and looking at what I expect each person to have done. Its similar to what _____________ does when he "puts on X glasses" I think.

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by tsundere

I really don't care what I expect to have gone on in the quicktopic for all I know its you and Mittens and you never looked at it.

fine, that's fair. I actually chuckled.

[FictionJunction]

I want to clarify that it's not what I think you did but what the convenience factor tells me - I'm not accusing you of being red, I just don't like your evidence to he contrary