Ingame Song Information

[who_cares973]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

we need to do what they did for challenging and make an easiest and hardest of each difficulty. over the frail dream was said to be the standard challenging so all the challenging files are based on that i would assume. lets do that for the rest yes?

[mhss1992]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Should we really base the difficulties on an elite of 100 players or so?
When all of you start getting FGO AAAs, will Frictional Nevada become a VC?
Well, I got 4-0-0-0 at EHHS, but, years ago, I even thought it was close to FGO, for heaven's sake! I would NEVER compare it to a VC.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

VD's:

Utopia (54)
Techno Green Greens (55, should be VD)
Butterflies (55)
Delta Beat (55)
Oasis -Long Version- (55)
Angel Stays on This Ground vocal remix (55)
Vanishing Gungaroon (55)
Indulgence (55)
Lovers Reef (56)
Dr0p! (56)
Grandolin (56)
Cyro Sleep (56)
Synic (56)
Remember 15 years ago (56)
Megascorcher (57)

C's:

Here's to Life Oni (60)
Inside the Fire (60)
Into the Night (61)
Toona Youkai Zenzen (62)
Sword Strike (62)
I am Maid (62)
Shining Sky (62)
Infinity 301 (63)
Nebula (63)
Rumia, Sealed Youkai of the Night (63)
Comfort Betrays (63)
R8U another (63)
Felys (64)
Shapeshifter (64)
Brainwave (64)
Dokodemo Kawaii (64)
Battle Theme #36 (64)
Streets (64, this song is a joke, I AAA'd one handed)
ABCDEath (65, honestly)
Far Away From Home (65)
Tell me a Story (compendium mix) (65)
Relic Expedition in Another Star (65)
Chaoz Japan (66)
Crystal Wind (66)
Falsie, the Pseudo Science girl (66)
Lapis ~the heaven's~ (66)
WAIWAI230 (67)
Gym Leader (RBY) (67)
Toph's Opening remix (67)
Fei Longer (67)
Washamoose's OP (67)

VC's:

Fighting For Control (68)
Nitrx (68)
Kamone 100% (68)
Pure in Asia (68)
Otter's Dance Hot Root mix (69)
Fake Jazz (69)
{Big Boss} (69)
Randomness Reactor 3 (69)
Ninja Lad (69)
Witches Hat (69)
Gacha Gacha Figu@mate (69)
Border of Maximum (69)
Speedcore Sunday (70)
Do a Barrel Roll! (70)
Casket of Star (70)
We Wish You A Merry XMas (Jazzy Groove Mix) (71)
Happy Happy Shining Star! (71)
Procrastination on Paper (71)
Air Sul in G. Rock (71)
DMYK (72)
Shining Sword (72)
Destined Marionette (72)
Nebula (she) (72)
The Final Conflict (72)
Purple (73)
A World Of Piano (73)
Piano X Forte (73)
moon_child -Go with the flow- (73)
Crash the Beat! (73)
Illumination of the Sky (73)
Ievan Polka (73)
Run Through the Stream of Time (74)
The Lunatic Princess (74)
Szeretscetlen (74)
Kil Stage (75)
Keep In Mind (75)
Bus Rides With People (75)
Twelve (75)
Kanon-Kanon (75)

FMO's:

Jeanie and Caroline (76)
Black Key Etude (76)
Summer Time Perfume (76)
300 (76)
Thrash (77)
Scythe of 13 (77)
Largiloquent Dithyramb (77 for jacks)
Radio Heads (77, other than the long jack, it's not bad at all)
Church Bells (78)
Night and Day (78)
Battle Theme #37 (78)
Blue Violet (78)
Kyrie (79)
Dead and Direct (79)
Document 13b (79)
Brandish Headless (79)
Master Maid (80)
3020 (80 those jacks eat me alive)
Bloodmeat [Heavy] (80)
bmv .578 (80)
Bloodhounds on my Trail (80)
Perfect Cherry Storm (80)
October (81)
Silly Symphony (82)
Toxiferous Dystopia (82)
He's a Radical Rat (83)
Momentary Life (83, it's fast and killer, IMO, open for debate)

FGO's:

Holy Orders (85)
Nomina Nuda Tenemus (85)
Across Rooftops (85)
Integraation (85)
Strawberry Sweetz (85)
Planet Karma (85)
I Hate The 80s (86)
Kidney Stone (86)
Little God Channel (86)
Necropotence (86)
Hardkore Atomic (87)
Schmollbluk (89)
La Campanella (90)
Counter Clockwise Chant Pattern (90)
Almost There (92)

The mystical 13th difficulty:

Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion (96)

Tokens:

Pianocore (77)
Here we Go!! (93)

Skill Tokens:

FMO's:

OMW v2 (76)
Disconnected Hardkore (76)
Gacha Gacha Hertz figu@radio (76)
Sonata Quasi Una Fantasia Mov. 3 (77)
Nanairopanda v2 (79)

In order from least to greatest difficulty IMO, like on the front page, idk BPM's

UPDATED

bolded songs are new and updated difficulties are bold as well

New things are based strictly on replays and the few I can play, since my wrist is shattered and all, at least I'm getting surgery friday

PS

Someone needs to compile this already and ****ing post it up front, it's been too damn long

[TC_Halogen]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Master Maid (81) --> (80) [Pretty easy, but bursts kill score.]
Momentary Life (83) --> (82) [open for debate--no bursts, just straight up speed, actually not too bad.]
Toxiferous Dystopia (82) --> (83) [strange patterns, 32nd flams are very tough to read, some 32nd bursts can't be easily jump trilled.]
Holy Orders (85) --> (86) [strange jump patterns, trill?]
Schmollbluk (88) --> (89) [open for debate--bursts are very difficult and you still need decent JS skill to handle the ending.]

Just a few of my thoughts. Anyone wanna discuss other changes? Stavie's done a great job on this and I think he should keep it up. =)

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Master Maid (81) --> (80) [Pretty easy, but bursts kill score.] I'd agree, except it's one higher than Oni, and since Oni is 80, this is 81, however I could lower both just 1
Momentary Life (83) --> (82) [open for debate--no bursts, just straight up speed, actually not too bad.] Debatable, it's just too damn fast, by far my worst FMO
Toxiferous Dystopia (82) --> (83) [strange patterns, 32nd flams are very tough to read, some 32nd bursts can't be easily jump trilled.]
One of my best FMO's, I personally don't think it's anywhere near as bad as others, I save 83 for > Big Blue (which I think should be an 82), stuff like Gymnastics and HaRR
Holy Orders (85) --> (86) [strange jump patterns, trill?] I'm sorry, I find this one really easy, if not for the trills I would totally AAA, but debatable
Schmollbluk (88) --> (89) [open for debate--bursts are very difficult and you still need decent JS skill to handle the ending.] agreed and changed

Just a few of my thoughts. Anyone wanna discuss other changes? Stavie's done a great job on this and I think he should keep it up. =)

replies in bold, and thanks

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I think NNT could pass as a high FMO

also blue-violet isn't that hard imo it's a low/borderline FMO song

well, for blue-violet, it's cause' you aren't trying to AAA, sure, it's an easy clean FC, but that song has given me PA headaches for the longest time, I still can't beat (I rarely even reach) my record of 4 goods, IMO, FF7LBF is easier (since I AAA'd first try in months)

[leonid]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I see no jacks at the end of Schmollbluk

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I see no jacks at the end of Schmollbluk

what? I don't see those words anywhere near eachother...???

[One Winged Angel]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Nebula is higher than 72, nothing higher than 74 though
3020 is lower than 80, probably 79
Perfect Cherry Storm is like 79 lol
Master Maid is significantly easier than oni and is probably 79 (And since you're justifying some of the ratings with your own plays (which is why more opinions are probably needed since you seem to be biased against jacks), I AAA'd this second try before ten people even played the song. No way I would've done that if this were 81)

edit: yeah, I don't think blue violet should be that high either

[leonid]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I got 2-0-0-0 on blue violet sightread. So shouldn't be that hard to PA..

what? I don't see those words anywhere near eachother...???

I was replying to TC_Halogen. lol

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Nebula is not being changed, that I think is perfect, still, debate can convince me otherwise, I have strong opinions but of course I'm just one guy and everyone has different playing styles and skills

I discussed most of these with JX, he was quite adamant about raising Perfect Cherry Storm and Bloodmeat to 81's, but I changed them to 80 for a compromise, I'm not making it 79, PCS is harder than EHHS in every way, stream, speed, and bursts, which all are harder than EHHS' jumps, and EHHS is the standard 80 from now on

I lowered Master Maid to 80, but how in gods name is it easier than Oni? It's about the same speed, but has more jumps, more awkward patterns, more stream, and much longer and many more roll walls, it's not 81, but it's much harder than Oni, I'm making Oni a 79 then, that song would be VC if not for the walls, which are easily jump trilled, but that's open for debate

I made Blue Violet the highest 78, I just don't see it being easier than Lawn wake I or Rottel

I don't understand why people think 3020's easy. Nothing about it is easy. The jacks are jumps and quite fast, the colored trills in the stream are awkward for PA, and the fact that they shove the jacks in the middle of moderate jumpstream warrants it an 80 IMO, much harder than EHHS

[bmah]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Stavie, you missed my latest simfile. It gets almost zero attention...

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Stavie, you missed my latest simfile. It gets almost zero attention...

which one? I haven't played You're my number one, so I can't say much, since it's a 9, I might be able to play it with my broken hand, though the doctor says I shouldn't, idk, btw, I'm typing with my left hand only, but playing FFR with just my left hand is insane

[TC_Halogen]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I was replying to TC_Halogen. lol

JS = jumpstream, buddy.

EDIT: Stavie, many of your opinions are based off of your own plays, and while there may not be much you can base off of your rankings other than your own experiences, you have to look at it as non-subjectively as possible. Look into strange patterns, large amounts of biased charts (AIM/Club = jacks, EHHS = jumpstream, HaRR = difficult patterns/rhythms, etc.), and then increase/decrease some of the ones that you think are debatable. You're doing a great job.

[stavie33]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Stavie, you missed my latest simfile. It gets almost zero attention...

based strictly off of replay: great job stepping the file as usual, like the song too, mid-high C, going with 66? Sound good?

Also adding Pianocore, at 77