TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

that doesn't prove anything and that's like, your opinion, man, but k

Also this is kinda funny

You/roundbox not doing jack proves a lot about your apathy for solving for whatever reason

Maybe you're disinterested town

Maybe you're scum (more likely, although I feel much more strongly about roundbox)

But not solving or being proactive is a definite red flag

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by roundbox

so here's the d0 vote, color coded for convenience

let's look at the voting patterns of all the non-flipped people and their reason for doing so

FIRST:
The non-voters

solve me on your own time, I already explained why I couldn't be here
raeko was in a moving vehicle for most of the phase so yeah NAI

SECOND:
Everybody else that was actually in the game

DaBackpack's d0 entry was in a short burst initially, and his first burst of voting places an early vote on Xelnya



DaBackpack is pretty confident in his read on Xel, and he said that this was one of the primary reasons he pursued. Let's find the posts that back that up, and some additional votes.









just kidding, it's his only vote this d0


THE VERDICT:
You know how I feel about parked votes. DaBackpack also admitted to making the two of them thunderdome. I also feel like DaBackpack swings his votes around a bit as town.

I think he's town guys
Xel didn't do a great job to defend himself at the end of the phase, and DaBackpack didn't just let it happen, he was trying to force interactions with him and blind rather than just hope the vote landed somewhere good
his responses to xel's responses didn't feel like he was building a wagon and trying to keep it pushing with false reasoning. He is very scatterbrained at EOD especially when votes start flying around and I didn't see it here, perhaps he's just sure of himself?
idc d0 vote makes him look towny

Blind started off with a very hollow suspicion on yeti, and makes his vote here


it looks like a joke vote, but he develops it later here:



It seems like he's confident of his initial vote.

His second vote is nothing more than self-preservation:



I included the line in his slightly earlier post about "Xel looking towny, but I hold that feeling with a grain of salt" because the second line in this quotation. Hmmmmmmm



VERDICT:
There is something VERY markedly missing from blind's play this game: a lack of self-voting. I'm not sure whether to applaud that he has learned not to do so or to be concerned that something may be afoot. There's a chance that this lack of play could make him anti-town, in addition to his quick flip on Xel when he needed to vote for self-pres. He could have easily just said "self-pres" with a vote on Xel, but this makes it a bit much.
He's probably more town than not, but this does make me slightly skeptical of the matter. Blind seems to have a reason to live this game, and it might not be a town reason. I know I was praising him for following his gut, but on reread, I'm having a slight reset.

I iso'd Charu d0 because he seemed weird this game. Looks like I was right, he's an alien. But the thing we need to determine now if he's actually town side or wolf side. I don't know if Charu has the balls to align with third-party, so let's just assume he picked one of the other for now. If something is extra fucky, maybe he's third-party aligned but I really doubt it.

(I wish Charu didn't have 500+ posts)



this vote a joke



this vote is a reaction to Hakulyte comparing sunfan to a "hyperactive haku with 200 posts and no meaningful content"
Charu was utterly confused by this so he voted Haku. I don't know if it was a result of him being weirded out by haku or him townreading/giving credit to sunfan and reacting accordingly. This vote looks fine, regardless.



Here's the last vote. Let's parse this. This is the important step.
Looking for posts... looking for posts...

uhhh
like everything before this is talking about xel townreading shado for the "how to use the forum" post

uhh
hey what the fuck I'm not finding shit


here's one I guess but it's more of a reason against his yeti read (And partially AA because he said AA's questions were useless)



okay here it is over an hour after his vote

hmmm


VERDICT:
Charu buses, but I don't think he wins this game. If Charu is anti-town, blind is not anti-town. Clearly, we can only check that inversely so if blind is ever flipped/checked.
Charu as anti-town here could make sense, but that would work for anything that could be considered a mislynch and I have a few misgivings about blind, but it's not a sure thing.
Charu as town here has a very weak case, and it's d0 sooooooooooooooooooo fuck it?
If blind is wolf I don't see charu being wolf aligned. The other way around? Not as certain.

unless Xelnya claims a power role, I'm always down to lynch him. Even if I read him town. 2 reasons.
1. That gets him off my ass.
2. I could be reading him wrong.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by inDheart

:thumb:

it's annoying though, find the hay in the needle stack

So who are the true VTs in the pool in your opinion

Why did you say only 1 vt right after yeti posted her thing

[TWG Ike]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Where are the PRs

I'm finally done

are you VT?

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by TWG Ike

are you VT?

Not answering, I don't think it's necessary

For everyone doubling down on VT there will be no mercy if you suddenly cry pr

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

So who are the true VTs in the pool in your opinion

Why did you say only 1 vt right after yeti posted her thing

when yeti posted her thing she said 2

i pretty much immediately townread that because it would mean she's also VT and it was a thought i had to say something similar

instead of trying to run the numbers though i just decided to come in and say we're lynching in that pool instead because the numbers from my perspective are that literally half the original 4 claims are fake

[inDheart]

me posting that back to yeti was probably bad if i wanted to remain ~mysterious~ but it actually kind of made me hyped

[TWG Ike]

InD being the last VT to claim idk exactly how to feel may be wolf who thinks the town in the pool will be lynched before him (and his partner?)

if he is town that means yeah, 3 of the initial 4 VT are scum cause they doubled down on VT. not gonna buy a sudden PR claim from them.

[Hakulyte]

Is there a point to still lynch Charu to confirm he's the alien ?

[blindreper1179]

let's bring the fire cause we about to watch this mother effer burn!

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Is there a point to still lynch Charu to confirm he's the alien ?

No. Not really.

[DaBackpack]

so we have 2 extra vts right?

[TWG Ike]

iunno like if you're scum what do you do there? someone you know is town (me) just said VT as well do you piggy off that to look less shady than the initial claimers?

or do you see, as VT, it's of huge merit to reveal at that point, that there are THAT MANY liars in the first 4?

[TWG Ike]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

so we have 2 extra vts right?

3 unless you're dropping your VT claim

[blindreper1179]

Guys.
GUYS.
if there's 6 vt claims
But there's 3 vt
And only 2 wolves.
What's the last one????

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Guys.
GUYS.
if there's 6 vt claims
But there's 3 vt
And only 2 wolves.
What's the last one????

Most likely Mysterious Variable X.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Is there a point to still lynch Charu to confirm he's the alien ?

I mean, if y'all want, we can split the votes so the person we want lynched is behind me.

Can backfire though, so...

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by TWG Ike

iunno like if you're scum what do you do there? someone you know is town (me) just said VT as well do you piggy off that to look less shady than the initial claimers?

or do you see, as VT, it's of huge merit to reveal at that point, that there are THAT MANY liars in the first 4?

i mean, i thought it was pretty exciting

means the chances of hitting something are pretty high

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by TWG Ike

3 unless you're dropping your VT claim

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHA

3 extra, holy shit, looks like town wins fellas

[TWG Ike]

VANILLA TOWN OR SCUM POOL
haku
blind
dabackpack
roundbox
yeti
InD

ALIEN
charu

NOT CLAIMING VT
AA
mellon

so both wolves and non-town MVX in the top pool?