TWG XV - #twgxv (Humans Win. Huzzah.) - Page 15

**alainbryden** · 05-14-2005, 02:58 PM

Talisman, a wolf has no reason to kill kefit because his role is now useless. The psychic is a useless role when there is only one wolf left. End of story.

All of you. Your fundamental assumption leading you to think I'm a wolf is that Chardish saved me.
Chardish did not save me
See those 20 some posts I made that day? The 2 hours I spent talking with Tass? With Guido? Those are what saved me. I eased almost everyone's suspicions and answered all questions and there was still an entire day left where several people were planning to take votes off me, and other's allready had. All suspicion was, infact, pretty much dying until my name was brought up in the TPS/Chardish thing. When Chardish pulled his stunt I was no longer in danger of being lynched even though I still had the majority of votes on me.

Therefore your fundamental assumption, which you said no one can argue against, is wrong. I have said it 10 times before but I have made it as simple and as clear as pissible now.

Finally, did it just occured to me, as it should have to you, that perhaps TPS needed to leave the game, and so he organised such a thing to either a) Confirm Chardish's humanity or b) set me up if this should fail. Remember the time I attempted to wolf myself for this same reason? It seems a risk that he would even mention Chardish in his 'retaliation' but by the way Chardish played off the circumstance, it would seem that was the intention.

**talisman** · 05-14-2005, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alainbryden

Talisman, a wolf has no reason to kill kefit because his role is now useless. The psychic is a useless role when there is only one wolf left. End of story.

You're right, my mistake.

edited because I fail at quote tags

**alainbryden** · 05-14-2005, 03:07 PM

Xtrialan Derrorx (7:07:37 PM): This Is Chardish (9:23:35 PM): Tass doesn't suspect me or alain right now.
Tps7910 (9:23:37 PM): So without him, it will fall apart
Tps7910 (9:23:49 PM): Alain wanted to wolf him too
Tps7910 (9:30:00 PM): So then why would wolfing him be bad?
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:07:52 PM): Tass just got wolfed last night. It says right there you wanted to wolf him, if indeed that was the conversation.
NEIGH006 (7:07:57 PM): What if the name had said "Mead"
NEIGH006 (7:08:01 PM): and got changed to "Alain"
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:08:02 PM): You were tied with aperson day one, read what Talisman said.
NEIGH006 (7:08:03 PM): seriously
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:08:07 PM): I know, i've thought of that over and over
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:08:13 PM): It wasn't a plan though, Tps was fucked over
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:08:29 PM): He wanted the game to end because he was pissed off, why would he not mention the name of the last wolf.
NEIGH006 (7:08:38 PM): wait that makes no sence
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:08:51 PM): Yes it does.
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:09:11 PM): why do you think aperson made that crying/emo banner for Tps
NEIGH006 (7:09:15 PM): you're saying "If they really are talking about Alain, then it says Alain wanted to wolf Tass. Tass just got wolfed. So they must have been really talking about Alain"
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:09:21 PM): because he cried about it, and revealed (all?) of the wolves involved.
NEIGH006 (7:09:22 PM): it could have just as easily been any other player
NEIGH006 (7:09:29 PM): you've used circular logic
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:09:37 PM): Thats true, i know. but you were also mentioned before in it
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:09:43 PM): how that you can't be lynched, and they needed to save you.
NEIGH006 (7:10:13 PM): I mentioned in what?
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:10:24 PM): in the Tps/Chardish conversation
NEIGH006 (7:10:57 PM): Yeah, but that entire thing was made up to suit my current condition
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:10:59 PM): page 14
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:11:13 PM): Yeah you could say that, but how could we know.
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:11:19 PM): Tps did that out of anger
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:11:24 PM): All of it leads up to it being true.
NEIGH006 (7:11:44 PM): unless
NEIGH006 (7:11:47 PM): like I said in my post
NEIGH006 (7:11:50 PM): he went along
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:11:55 PM): You and aperson we for-eachother in the beginning, talisman's reasoning for your conversation together is pretty good.
NEIGH006 (7:11:55 PM): because he needed to leave the game
NEIGH006 (7:12:01 PM): no we weren't
NEIGH006 (7:12:03 PM): I trusted him
NEIGH006 (7:12:05 PM): barely
NEIGH006 (7:12:09 PM): and I have no clue about him
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:12:11 PM): On the beginning of day 1, okay.
NEIGH006 (7:12:12 PM): that is all
Xtrialan Derrorx (7:12:16 PM): You're not one to trust people so easily.
NEIGH006 (7:12:26 PM): On the contrary
NEIGH006 (7:12:40 PM): I always trust people unless I am faced with glaring contradictions to this trust
NEIGH006 (7:12:53 PM): I am always first to show all the ways in which a person can be innocent

**talisman** · 05-14-2005, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alainbryden

NEIGH006 (7:07:57 PM): What if the name had said "Mead"

actually, tass said as soon as he wasn't suspicious of you that he was suspicious of both mead and flypie. But anyway, it is true that tass didn't suspect you or chardish then... therefore that chat line makes sense.

**Neonatrias** · 05-14-2005, 04:56 PM

Alright...Alain's been pressing wrong buttons with me since he managed his way out of being lynched.

JurseyRider734 · 05-14-2005, 04:57 PM

one more to insta.

whorlichan · 05-14-2005, 05:00 PM

Neon, I'm not really happy with you coming out of the blue like that to insta alain...but I do think he's still more suspicious than you.

Back to alain; we can get rid of matt tomorrow if we're still all here.

**alainbryden** · 05-14-2005, 05:00 PM

*edit* nevermind. I lose. Fuckers.

05-14-2005, 05:13 PM

This is going to be the best postgame ever.

**Kilgamayan** · 05-14-2005, 06:22 PM

<alainbryden> I swear, it's not me.
<alainbryden> Not that saying such has helped anyone yet.
<Kilgamayan> I just checked my transfer logs, and you were the one who attempted to send it to me in the first place.
<blahblah18> And why didn't you try that before?
<Kilgamayan> To build dramatic tension.
<blahblah18> ...Moron.
<alainbryden> Oh. Well, uh, shit.
<whorlichan> Can we just get this over with?
<Kilgamayan> Yeah, yeah. I'm tired. Cut me some slack.
* Kilgamayan set mode: +b *!*@anon-476.sympatico.ca
* alainbryden was kicked by Kilgamayan (Away with ye!)
<Neonatrias> Are you going to unban those other people?
<Kilgamayan> Too lazy.
<Kilgamayan> Besides, I'm sure they deserve it.
<nforcer06164> Why?
<Kilgamayan> I dunno.

---

And so ends the epic struggle. Humans win.

Full role coverage will be in the postgame topic.

**DarkManticoreX2** · 05-9-2014, 02:55 PM

Archived 5-9-2014 3:55 PM EST

05-14-2005, 02:58 PM	#281
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	Talisman, a wolf has no reason to kill kefit because his role is now useless. The psychic is a useless role when there is only one wolf left. End of story. All of you. Your fundamental assumption leading you to think I'm a wolf is that Chardish saved me. Chardish did not save me See those 20 some posts I made that day? The 2 hours I spent talking with Tass? With Guido? Those are what saved me. I eased almost everyone's suspicions and answered all questions and there was still an entire day left where several people were planning to take votes off me, and other's allready had. All suspicion was, infact, pretty much dying until my name was brought up in the TPS/Chardish thing. When Chardish pulled his stunt I was no longer in danger of being lynched even though I still had the majority of votes on me. Therefore your fundamental assumption, which you said no one can argue against, is wrong. I have said it 10 times before but I have made it as simple and as clear as pissible now. Finally, did it just occured to me, as it should have to you, that perhaps TPS needed to leave the game, and so he organised such a thing to either a) Confirm Chardish's humanity or b) set me up if this should fail. Remember the time I attempted to wolf myself for this same reason? It seems a risk that he would even mention Chardish in his 'retaliation' but by the way Chardish played off the circumstance, it would seem that was the intention. __________________ ~NEIGH

05-14-2005, 04:56 PM	#285
Neonatrias MAЯISA Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Urbana, IL Age: 36 Posts: 919	Alright...Alain's been pressing wrong buttons with me since he managed his way out of being lynched. __________________

05-14-2005, 05:00 PM	#287
whorlichan Tiny Plastic Meat Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Valley, Los Angeles Age: 40 Posts: 669	Neon, I'm not really happy with you coming out of the blue like that to insta alain...but I do think he's still more suspicious than you. Back to alain; we can get rid of matt tomorrow if we're still all here. __________________ Goddess of Chocolate Sauce First ever graduate of the Quetzacoatino Academy for Aspiring Deities My lame LJ My friend Cassie's amazing photography

05-14-2005, 05:00 PM	#288
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	edit nevermind. I lose. Fuckers. __________________ ~NEIGH

05-14-2005, 05:13 PM	#289
User6773 Guest Posts: n/a	This is going to be the best postgame ever.

05-14-2005, 06:22 PM	#290
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	<alainbryden> I swear, it's not me. <alainbryden> Not that saying such has helped anyone yet. <Kilgamayan> I just checked my transfer logs, and you were the one who attempted to send it to me in the first place. <blahblah18> And why didn't you try that before? <Kilgamayan> To build dramatic tension. <blahblah18> ...Moron. <alainbryden> Oh. Well, uh, shit. <whorlichan> Can we just get this over with? <Kilgamayan> Yeah, yeah. I'm tired. Cut me some slack. * Kilgamayan set mode: +b !@anon-476.sympatico.ca * alainbryden was kicked by Kilgamayan (Away with ye!) <Neonatrias> Are you going to unban those other people? <Kilgamayan> Too lazy. <Kilgamayan> Besides, I'm sure they deserve it. <nforcer06164> Why? <Kilgamayan> I dunno. --- And so ends the epic struggle. Humans win. Full role coverage will be in the postgame topic. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

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