03-19-2005, 07:49 AM | #281 | |
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Tass, you constantly said that the seers in TWG XI had to seer each other and start forming an alliance. Doesn't that mean that they'd have to know that the other was a special role? Otherwise, I did not know that seers did not see special roles. I assumed that if a seer looks at someone over the night, the specific role in standard games (with the exception of the master wolf) is revealed to them. I'm amazed myself that I did not learn this until now.
Mead, the day ends at 8PM EST today.
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03-19-2005, 08:23 AM | #282 |
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I was saying that in TWG XI that they needed to SEER ME, and I would put them in touch with each other. I didn't mention the fact that I was one of them. But, yea... Seer only gets Human/Wolf. Nothing more.
And mead... from what I've gotten from eyespew and some interesting circumstancial evidence (aka... assuming eb is a wolf), nforcer is human.
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03-19-2005, 08:50 AM | #283 | |
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C'mon, guys, eight hours left, and NO discussion? I'm holding back a vote on Hans because I don't want to bandwagon, but he's my top pick for a lynching right now. However, we have plenty of time to sort some things out and be absloutely certain on our choice. Let's make the last few hours count.
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03-19-2005, 09:13 AM | #284 |
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Im going on vacation and will only be able to vote and post (not IM), since I will have limited internet time. Anyway, here is why I vote tass now.
TasselFoot: you're a trixy hobbits lightdarkness42: ? TasselFoot: tell them its for a bemani tourney. lightdarkness42: lol TasselFoot: how was school lightdarkness42: ok TasselFoot: so who ya kill for night 3? lightdarkness42: ... TasselFoot: I'm worried that I'm dead. TasselFoot: I always get killed night 3/4. lightdarkness42: unless u wolf TasselFoot: this is true. but, i've already ruled that out. TasselFoot: y'know... unless the wolves don't know they are wolves and ap has been #$#ing with us. lightdarkness42: THAT IS WHAT I THINK TasselFoot: THAT IS WHY I SAID IT. i am mocking you. lightdarkness42: o lightdarkness42 signed off at 4:43:37 PM. lightdarkness42 signed on at 4:43:54 PM. lightdarkness42 signed off at 4:45:58 PM. lightdarkness42 signed on at 4:46:19 PM. lightdarkness42: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...=360732#360732 TasselFoot: one sec TasselFoot: wow. thats awesome. lightdarkness42: indeed lightdarkness42 is idle at 10:51:23 PM. lightdarkness42 is away at 10:56:23 PM. lightdarkness42 returned at 10:58:38 PM. lightdarkness42 signed off at 10:59:18 PM. lightdarkness42 signed on at 10:59:22 PM. lightdarkness42 is idle at 11:14:26 PM. lightdarkness42 is away at 11:19:26 PM. lightdarkness42 returned at 6:35:48 AM. lightdarkness42 is idle at 6:52:14 AM. lightdarkness42 is no longer idle at 6:55:55 AM. lightdarkness42 is idle at 7:19:06 AM. lightdarkness42 is away at 7:24:06 AM. lightdarkness42 returned at 3:09:11 PM. lightdarkness42: Yo lightdarkness42: let me know when you're back TasselFoot: yo lightdarkness42: I posted the convo lightdarkness42: do with it what you will TasselFoot: why would i do anything with it lightdarkness42: however, apparently there is a better target, which I haven't breifed on yet TasselFoot: better than nforcer.... i'd imagine eric? as eyespew voted for him? TasselFoot: and, who is doing the briefing. TasselFoot: any idea who eb/eyespew were talking about? TasselFoot: with the *** lightdarkness42: i havne't seen the convoo yet TasselFoot: its posted lightdarkness42: back lightdarkness42: checking it out now lightdarkness42 is idle at 8:05:34 PM. lightdarkness42 is no longer idle at 8:08:27 PM. lightdarkness42 is idle at 10:25:25 PM. lightdarkness42 is no longer idle at 10:27:50 PM. lightdarkness42 is idle at 11:14:32 PM. lightdarkness42 is no longer idle at 11:15:35 PM. lightdarkness42 is idle at 11:31:14 PM. lightdarkness42 is away at 11:36:13 PM. lightdarkness42 returned at 6:35:10 AM. lightdarkness42 is idle at 6:51:24 AM. lightdarkness42 is no longer idle at 6:52:11 AM. lightdarkness42 is idle at 7:16:50 AM. lightdarkness42 is away at 7:21:50 AM. lightdarkness42 returned at 3:11:57 PM. lightdarkness42: Hey TasselFoot: yo lightdarkness42: What do you think of eb's little attempt TasselFoot: i don't know man. you, eb, alain... hans maye. are up to something. lightdarkness42: The only thing I'm up to, is saving myself. I'm human, and that's all there is to it TasselFoot: if you say so. i mean, everyone in this game is suspicious of only 2-3 people. we can't all be wrong. TasselFoot: eb hasn't voted... you gotta assume he'll vote you to save himself. lightdarkness42: kilga is gonna vote eb lightdarkness42: he just didn' to not instalynch him TasselFoot: most likely. eyespewgreekfire: hey TasselFoot: yo eyespewgreekfire: im curious what you think of alain's theory about the wolves eyespewgreekfire: it makes sense to me, but then again im never too sure of him eyespewgreekfire: it thought, you (twg god) may know the best whether hes on track TasselFoot: i have yet to analyze my collected data completely. i'll have a good idea once i finalize it. eyespewgreekfire: k eyespewgreekfire: when should i come back to you and ask again? TasselFoot: either late tonight or sometime mid day tomorrow eyespewgreekfire: k eyespewgreekfire: thanks TasselFoot: any thoughts on who is gonna get the axe tonight? i'm worried for myself, actually. i always get killed night 3/4 eyespewgreekfire: i dunno eyespewgreekfire: my guess is that either you or alain will be guarded TasselFoot: well, i hope its me. eyespewgreekfire: wolves will probably go for someone sorta weak eyespewgreekfire: i know i generally die around night 5 since all the people better than me that dont get guarded are dead by then eyespewgreekfire: probably someone a bit stronger than me TasselFoot: eb/ld? eyespewgreekfire: possibly eyespewgreekfire: imo, ld sucks at this game, but people think hes good eyespewgreekfire: btw, you gotten anything that looks like a code from aperson yet? eyespewgreekfire: it seems like a normal twg so far TasselFoot: no codes yet, as per ap eyespewgreekfire: he told me hell send them later eyespewgreekfire: hopefully soon eyespewgreekfire: one thing that looks fishy to me eyespewgreekfire: is jurs's vote for neon eyespewgreekfire: neon was obviously dead because of his 1.5 vote phantom eyespewgreekfire: so if they are wolves, i think that was a coverup vote TasselFoot: so what do you make of this (#$%. eyespewgreekfire: of what (#$%? eyespewgreekfire: my being saved? TasselFoot: uh huh eyespewgreekfire: well, it gives me some definite ideas eyespewgreekfire: either im totally right about the big 3 eyespewgreekfire: or im totally wrong TasselFoot: well, i'm all ears eyespewgreekfire: (neon jurs ld) eyespewgreekfire: im sure you know this too eyespewgreekfire: either one of htem is a wolf eyespewgreekfire: or its reverse psych TasselFoot: i think both jurs and ld are wolves. i'm feeling more and more sure about them. eyespewgreekfire: it does make sense TasselFoot: I'm willing to bet that whatever special roles are in the game are going to contact you. If you would like my help with this burden, let me know. TasselFoot: I also wouldn't be suprised if the wolves tried to pull some fake bullshit eyespewgreekfire: im not just gonna give you the info TasselFoot: since we don't even know the roles. TasselFoot: i don't want you to. eyespewgreekfire: what do you mean by "help with the burden" then? TasselFoot: decision making, anything you might be unsure about... i know you aren't too used to being in the spotlight. eyespewgreekfire: ive been in it before eyespewgreekfire: well ill ask you ONE question eyespewgreekfire: and its very vague eyespewgreekfire: should i risk what i have for something better? eyespewgreekfire: if i told you more, id give (#$% away TasselFoot: um. i really have no idea. too vague. eyespewgreekfire: yeah i know eyespewgreekfire: sorry, thats all i can tell now TasselFoot: like, do you KNOW a wolf but want to draw out more? do you think you have the blues but want more confirmation? don't know what you mean. eyespewgreekfire: sorry, thats all i can share TasselFoot: well, if something relavent comes up that you can share, i'd love to be able to help. eyespewgreekfire is idle at 6:16:12 PM. eyespewgreekfire is no longer idle at 6:24:04 PM. eyespewgreekfire is idle at 7:17:00 PM. eyespewgreekfire is no longer idle at 8:11:40 PM. eyespewgreekfire is away at 8:17:22 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 11:20:18 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed off at 11:46:41 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 11:08:24 AM. TasselFoot: so any intel you can share? TasselFoot: i see your vote, see your post... anything behind that or more than that? eyespewgreekfire is idle at 12:30:48 PM. eyespewgreekfire is no longer idle at 12:43:04 PM. eyespewgreekfire is idle at 12:49:04 PM. eyespewgreekfire is no longer idle at 12:56:17 PM. eyespewgreekfire is idle at 1:24:03 PM. eyespewgreekfire is away at 1:43:03 PM. eyespewgreekfire returned at 2:42:22 PM. eyespewgreekfire is idle at 2:43:23 PM. eyespewgreekfire is away at 3:02:23 PM. eyespewgreekfire returned at 4:13:01 PM. TasselFoot: you double posted... eyespewgreekfire: yeah eyespewgreekfire: i deleted the first one TasselFoot: ok. question. are you able to share who you two were talking about? i don't get the point of editing it out. eyespewgreekfire: *** is the guardian TasselFoot: so eb knows the guardian also? eyespewgreekfire: yes eyespewgreekfire: he went to me acting like he thought that person was eyespewgreekfire: got me to agree, and now he knows eyespewgreekfire: eb seems DAMN fishy to me TasselFoot: anything i can do to help? eyespewgreekfire: vote eb TasselFoot: i'd like to see his response, but, if i have nothing else to go on, i'll follow. TasselFoot: do me a favor? ask the guardian to consider guarding me... sooner or later the wolves WILL try and kill me, unless their plan is to let me live the whole game under suspicion, hoping i'll get lynched because of it. eyespewgreekfire: k i let him know you ask TasselFoot: thanks. eyespewgreekfire: his response is "$*%# that" TasselFoot: any particular reason? eyespewgreekfire: youre out of the loop eyespewgreekfire: (which you really are) TasselFoot: i know i am. eyespewgreekfire: (you know like nothing) TasselFoot: nothing i can do about that. eyespewgreekfire: you can scavenge TasselFoot: i have no special powers to contribute. eyespewgreekfire: you wait for people to come to you eyespewgreekfire: now that theyve stopped eyespewgreekfire: you have to play like everyone else TasselFoot: it sucks. eyespewgreekfire: so you figured out the guardian? eyespewgreekfire: thats what i hear eyespewgreekfire is away at 7:12:32 PM. eyespewgreekfire returned at 7:29:59 PM. TasselFoot: so are you locked on eb for today's vote? i honestly can't decide who to vote for between ld, eb, hans, jurs, eric. so, i'm just going to accept your "in the loopness" and go with what you think is best. eyespewgreekfire: well eyespewgreekfire: theres a few choices eyespewgreekfire: theres to believe eb's theory eyespewgreekfire: and go for "guardian" eyespewgreekfire: but i dont buy it eyespewgreekfire: eb is one possibility eyespewgreekfire: jurs and ld seem pretty strong humans to me eyespewgreekfire: either eb or alain is a wolf id say eyespewgreekfire: then theres also eric and hans etc TasselFoot: you know the psychic, right? TasselFoot: if you do, i hate to sound sacrificial... but, and i agree with you on this, eb or alain is almost certainly a wolf... if you took out eb tonight, he came back human, you could for sure take out alain tomorrow. eyespewgreekfire: i dont know the psychic tho Sad eyespewgreekfire: do you? TasselFoot: i'm out of the loop. eyespewgreekfire: nobody has come to me eyespewgreekfire: im thinking they could be dead TasselFoot: so, only the guardian has come to you. eyespewgreekfire: Sad Sad Sad TasselFoot: yeah. TasselFoot: so, explain to me how i'm out of the loop. the only "in the loop" knowledge is who the guardian is. and i know that. eyespewgreekfire: theres that eyespewgreekfire: theres EBs story TasselFoot: which everyone knows eyespewgreekfire: theres alot of convos i had TasselFoot: which you can't seem to make anything of. eyespewgreekfire: the one i posted of eb eyespewgreekfire: and then one of ld eyespewgreekfire: where he seems completely human eyespewgreekfire: is ld easy for you to read? TasselFoot: not like whorli. eyespewgreekfire: lol eyespewgreekfire: whorli you can be like "tell me your role or no more secks" TasselFoot: i still have some doubts about ld. TasselFoot: i mean, hell.... there could only be 1 wolf left. eyespewgreekfire: neon i think was a wolf TasselFoot: and if so, i'd imagine it'd be someone really quiet like eric or afro.... but, then again, its unlikely there are 2 wolves dead. eyespewgreekfire: although its not koser (i wouldnt have been breaking rules) i went to him after he died eyespewgreekfire: and says "olo wolf" eyespewgreekfire: he never admitted it eyespewgreekfire: but i got a wolf vibe TasselFoot: in which case, one of the active players (eb/alain) is likely a 2nd/3rd wolf. TasselFoot: well, thats definately good. TasselFoot: only 2 wolves left is very good. eyespewgreekfire: neon is easy to read also eyespewgreekfire: my only problem now eyespewgreekfire: is that guardian will die soon eyespewgreekfire: then me eyespewgreekfire: since im a big asset (for once) TasselFoot: yup TasselFoot: you need someone to pick up the slack, you can't let your intel die with the guardian and yourself. TasselFoot: not saying it shold be me, but someone. TasselFoot: i'm gonna go make some chicken... lemme know who you want to take out or if you need any help/advice etc. eyespewgreekfire: k eyespewgreekfire: you could be a choice eyespewgreekfire: then again, theres people i trust more than you TasselFoot: well, you do your thing. i just wanna make sure we win this game. eyespewgreekfire: as do i eyespewgreekfire: i just have difficulty reading you on human vs wolf eyespewgreekfire: since you play exactly the same every game eyespewgreekfire: its always "IM TASS TALK TO ME" eyespewgreekfire: so i cant really tell TasselFoot: i hear ya. TasselFoot: its what keeps me alive, game in and game out. TasselFoot: but, i'm definately human. and, like i said, i just want to help. TasselFoot: if you can't trust me, thats fine. but, trust someone. eyespewgreekfire: i do eyespewgreekfire: dont worry eyespewgreekfire: i understand you can be an asset eyespewgreekfire: youre the loudest and one of the best players TasselFoot: loudest. thanks. TasselFoot: saying i have a big mouth? TasselFoot: eyespewgreekfire: you do! eyespewgreekfire: in twg thats not a bad thing TasselFoot: yeah, yeah. i know. eyespewgreekfire: alain (who i call "tass 2") doesnt quite do it as blatently when youre not around TasselFoot: ehh. he's still a wannabe. TasselFoot: the scary thing is, i could see him pulling that fake guardian nonsense. TasselFoot: anyway, chicken is calling me. i'll be back later. eyespewgreekfire: k eyespewgreekfire: eat well eyespewgreekfire signed off at 11:45:38 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 12:56:03 AM. eyespewgreekfire signed off at 1:02:41 AM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 11:46:10 AM. TasselFoot: so any decisions on who you're taking out? eb, ld, afro, someone else? eyespewgreekfire is idle at 12:45:20 PM. eyespewgreekfire is no longer idle at 12:48:13 PM. eyespewgreekfire: im still voting eb eyespewgreekfire: as i have TasselFoot: ok TasselFoot: but you aren't controlling your group well... or, do you even have a group? is it just you and the guardian? cause, you two aren't even voting together. eyespewgreekfire: i dont really have a group eyespewgreekfire: do you know who the guardian is? TasselFoot: fairly sure. eyespewgreekfire: who? TasselFoot: Alain eyespewgreekfire: yeah eyespewgreekfire: and with him as one of the few in my group eyespewgreekfire: i cant control him eyespewgreekfire: hes almost as assertive as you Razz TasselFoot: see, thats bad, imo. he's apart of the group. you're running the group, he should listen to you. eyespewgreekfire: tell him that Smile eyespewgreekfire: i think eb is a wolf eyespewgreekfire: but he doesnt wanna vote eb eyespewgreekfire: since he will die eyespewgreekfire: i think hes crazy eyespewgreekfire: but he doesnt listen eyespewgreekfire: were both sure EB is a wolf, but eb knows what he is TasselFoot: he's dead either way. eyespewgreekfire: thats what i said eyespewgreekfire: hes like maybe ill survive one more day if we dont kill eb eyespewgreekfire: which makes NO sense TasselFoot: i agree with you. eyespewgreekfire: wanna have a little chat with him for me? Smile TasselFoot: i'll try. eyespewgreekfire: perhaps hell listen to you more than he listens to me eyespewgreekfire signed off at 2:11:10 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 2:13:50 PM. eyespewgreekfire: can you do me a favor? eyespewgreekfire: can talk with ld some time and REALLY try to read the hell out of him? eyespewgreekfire: i know youre good at controlling him, so if you think hes human/wolf, he probably is TasselFoot: i've been talking to him... eyespewgreekfire: hows he feel? TasselFoot: i'm just not sure. his posts make me think wolf, his IMs make me think human. eyespewgreekfire: same here eyespewgreekfire: hes able to joke around in his IMs while talking about twg eyespewgreekfire: which is hard for a wolf to do eyespewgreekfire: especially someone like ld who isnt too hot at this game eyespewgreekfire is idle at 4:40:48 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 5:01:11 PM. eyespewgreekfire is no longer idle at 5:05:30 PM. eyespewgreekfire: what do you think of EBs story? eyespewgreekfire: it makes me think alain is a wolf slightly eyespewgreekfire: especially because eb mentioned alain to me specifically before i told him alain was guardian eyespewgreekfire: i hate that i cant read alain TasselFoot: gimme a few minutes TasselFoot: playing spades eyespewgreekfire: k eyespewgreekfire: still playing spades? TasselFoot: yes eyespewgreekfire is idle at 5:46:36 PM. TasselFoot: k. Auto response from eyespewgreekfire: I am away from my computer right now. eyespewgreekfire is no longer idle at 6:14:52 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed off at 6:15:54 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 7:16:26 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed off at 7:40:38 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 11:15:41 PM. TasselFoot: so, any ideas why ap hasn't updated the thread/ eyespewgreekfire: are all PMs in? TasselFoot: i'd assume so. no way to know for sure though. eyespewgreekfire: so theres seer guardian wolf eyespewgreekfire: yeah, probably TasselFoot: so there is a seer? eyespewgreekfire: not that i know of eyespewgreekfire: doesnt me there isnt tho TasselFoot: then there likely isn't one... eyespewgreekfire signed off at 11:48:09 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 9:52:07 AM. eyespewgreekfire signed off at 9:52:14 AM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 2:06:09 PM. eyespewgreekfire is idle at 2:17:38 PM. eyespewgreekfire is no longer idle at 2:20:58 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed off at 2:57:48 PM. eyespewgreekfire signed on at 3:01:19 PM. eyespewgreekfire: hey eyespewgreekfire: can you do me a favor? TasselFoot: whats up eyespewgreekfire: you know the 99999 convos you sent me in another game? eyespewgreekfire: can you do that again? TasselFoot: yea. sure. i'll send you what i have. eyespewgreekfire: and the ones wiht me, i Deleted them by mistake Razz nforcer06164: If you could pick out the wolves right now, who would they be? TasselFoot: chardish, whorli, and guido. nforcer06164: I'm serious. TasselFoot: gimme a sec to check the thread for updates TasselFoot: jurs and ld are looking really good to me right now TasselFoot: not sure about a 3rd. its possible tps or neon was a wolf. nforcer06164: true TasselFoot: hopefully one or both were. nforcer06164: I think someone is trying to frame LD TasselFoot: or he is trying to make us think that. TasselFoot: i've said from the start that ld or alain has to be a wolf TasselFoot: i still am not sure which TasselFoot: but i'm SURE one is nforcer06164: why is that? TasselFoot: the back and forth between them, the "framing", the killing of blah... nforcer06164: who do you trust more? TasselFoot: i trust no one this game. nforcer06164: right, but who would you think more likely to be a wolf between LD and Alain? TasselFoot: ld TasselFoot: alain has been throwing out theories left and right, from what i've heard. nforcer06164: he always does nforcer06164: I know something I seriously shouldn't TasselFoot: ? nforcer06164: yeah, and see, I told Alain I know something, too nforcer06164: that's the problem nforcer06164: I have to tell both of you now. TasselFoot: ok... nforcer06164: I wanted to know if you two are willing to trust each other nforcer06164: because if this falls into the wrong hands, it could easily mean human death TasselFoot: i'm willing to hear what you have to say. right now, i have more suspicions on ld than alain. nforcer06164: okay nforcer06164: I'm only telling you because I trust you are human nforcer06164: eyespew let something slip nforcer06164: he told me the seer had not contacted him yet nforcer06164: I don't know if he meant to tell me or not, but that's not good TasselFoot: that doesn't mean that much. nforcer06164: no, here, this is the thing nforcer06164: he also told me about 8 people before me had contacted them nforcer06164: none of them special roles nforcer06164: that means the seer may very well be dead nforcer06164: and a wolf could easily fill that role... nforcer06164: and he wouldn't know otherwise nforcer06164: see, if a wolf knew that, we'd be in grave danger nforcer06164: because the WOULD fill that space nforcer06164: they** TasselFoot: are you trying to set me up or something? nforcer06164: no nforcer06164: of course not TasselFoot: like, if i'm a wolf... i'd tell my wolf brothers and one of them would fake seer? TasselFoot: and then you'd be like "loloz... tass is a wolf!" nforcer06164: no, I have no intention of setting you up nforcer06164: but I see what you're saying nforcer06164: that's why a seer would have to affirm some role, say, the guardian nforcer06164: or psychic nforcer06164: or we're screwed nforcer06164: I have no intention of setting anybody up nforcer06164: but I have to let a few people I believe I can trust know so we can be alert nforcer06164: in case this threatens up later on nforcer06164: you get what I'm saying? nforcer06164: us** TasselFoot: yes. TasselFoot: i get it. TasselFoot: not sure i agree with the logic, but i get it nforcer06164: yeah nforcer06164: I must agree, I haven't thought how it can really benefit humans that much right now nforcer06164: but it's still something to watch nforcer06164: if we somehow find out that the seer is allegedly someone we have been suspecting, we have a real problem TasselFoot: well, who hasn't contacted eyespew? TasselFoot: do we know? TasselFoot: if 8 people contacted him as human... TasselFoot: that only leaves 3, right? nforcer06164: I think so. TasselFoot: 8 + eyespew + 3 = 12 TasselFoot: and that isn't possible nforcer06164: we need to know who has contacted eyespew TasselFoot: there are 3 blues/3 reds. only 4 are dead. TasselFoot: so find out. nforcer06164: he said about 8 nforcer06164: I'm on it nforcer06164: you've talked to him, right? TasselFoot: yes nforcer06164: so far, we have a yes from alain and jurs nforcer06164: and... a NO from Hans TasselFoot: yes what nforcer06164: that they have contacted eyespew nforcer06164: add a yes to LD too nforcer06164: and yourself and myself, that accounts for six people nforcer06164: eyespew doesn't factor in, that's seven TasselFoot: so hans didn't contact eyespew? nforcer06164: right TasselFoot: that is odd nforcer06164: he explained it nforcer06164: hang on... nforcer06164: nforcer06164: have you talked to eyespew yet? NotSoFarOff: Nope. NotSoFarOff: First time I've been on all day. NotSoFarOff: Plus I won't be on much longer. NotSoFarOff: My mom has been a bitch for some reason.. NotSoFarOff: The only reason I'm on right now is to work on my paper due Friday. nforcer06164: seems innocent enough nforcer06164: at least, on the thought process we're on TasselFoot: potentially. TasselFoot: but at the same time, its still an excuse. nforcer06164: right nforcer06164: I'm missing eb, afro, kilga, and who else? TasselFoot: mead and .... eric nforcer06164: mea is fhqwhgads? TasselFoot: yes nforcer06164: 1 sec nforcer06164: mead, a yes TasselFoot: the fact is, i'm not sure how much we can get out of this TasselFoot: the wolves can easily lie TasselFoot: which is why everyone who has been asked has come back as a yes to human nforcer06164: I'm simply asking if them if they talked to eyespew nforcer06164: Alain has come up with something brilliant TasselFoot: ? nforcer06164 wants to directly connect. nforcer06164 is now directly connected. nforcer06164: NEIGH006: well, I think if the seer is alive, or even if there is a seer in this game, which I doubt there is, that it's not a critical role at this point NEIGH006: actually I'm pretty sure there isn't a seer in this game to be honest nforcer06164: but remember, we can't be sure nforcer06164: so if there really is no seer, a wolf fake would be perfect NEIGH006: yep NEIGH006: would they risk it? NEIGH006: another story NEIGH006: here's an idea NEIGH006: seer does come out NEIGH006: we announce to the boards who the seer is NEIGH006: say nothing more NEIGH006: guard him that night NEIGH006: no NEIGH006: $*%# it NEIGH006: it would be better NEIGH006: if we let it "slip" that he's the guardian NEIGH006: to everyone nforcer06164: the "seer" is the "guardian", you mean? NEIGH006: sorry NEIGH006: let it slip who the "seer" is NEIGH006: to everyone nforcer06164: ah NEIGH006: and if it's a wolf posing NEIGH006: then they won't be attacked that night NEIGH006: but if it's the real seer NEIGH006: and the wolves think that they caught forbidden information NEIGH006: then they'll attack NEIGH006: either way we guard NEIGH006: if he doesn't get attacked, and eveyrone secretly knows, who he is, then he's likely a poseur NEIGH006: and gets less trust NEIGH006: k nforcer06164: right TasselFoot: if i was a wolf, and it "slipped" who the seer was, no way would i attack them. TasselFoot: too easy to smell a setup nforcer06164: but that's the thing nforcer06164: we won't realize we slipped it out, get it? nforcer06164: it'll be subtle enough that it'll look like a fumble... TasselFoot: again, if i was a wolf... that (#$% wouldn't work on me. its obvious. nforcer06164: yet the wolves will pick it up nforcer06164: well, this is the thing nforcer06164: if a seer does contact eyespew, we set the seer up in this fashion, and then the guardian is to guard that person nforcer06164: if not attacked, we can suspect... nforcer06164: if not, we have a real seer TasselFoot: i'm, curious to know how the guardian came to guard eyespew. nforcer06164: so am I nforcer06164: he said he knew the guardian before he was guarded TasselFoot: i'm interested to know who it is. i mean, i know i can't be trusted and all. still curious. nforcer06164: we all are, I'm sure nforcer06164: afro is a no nforcer06164: we need 1-2 more nforcer06164: then we have it all sorted out nforcer06164: unless you know if eric and/or kilga have been gone too long to talk to eyespew TasselFoot: i talked to kilga very briefly... but, not about twg nforcer06164: ah nforcer06164: okay TasselFoot: so what is the tally right now nforcer06164: eric, afro, hans: no nforcer06164: Kilga and eb: we don't know nforcer06164: everyone else: yes nforcer06164: any on when they'll be back? nforcer06164: any idea** TasselFoot: no... nforcer06164: hm. nforcer06164: I think eb is only playing SM nforcer06164: and he saw the thread nforcer06164: Afro told me that's how he found out nforcer06164: so, it's very likely he talked to eyespew... nforcer06164: when did you talk to Kilga? TasselFoot: earlier today nforcer06164: di you know how long he's been out? nforcer06164: like when ? TasselFoot: no idea nforcer06164: before the guarding? TasselFoot: after nforcer06164: hm. nforcer06164: so, there is a possibility he talked to eyespew as well nforcer06164: does eyespew have any connections? TasselFoot: i don't know dude nforcer06164: because if he knew the guardian before being guarded, it's likely it had to be someone he keeps in contact with nforcer06164: okay nforcer06164: just asking, you never know =P TasselFoot: you aren't going to post what you've found? nforcer06164: no nforcer06164: at least, not yet TasselFoot: i'm going to have the greatest post ever tomorrow. its gonna take like 2 hours to do. TasselFoot: it may solve the entire game. nforcer06164: care to share? TasselFoot: just going to do a full combing of the entire thread. TasselFoot: compare and seperate who has associated with who, who hasn't... should be able to pinpoint everyone who has a connection to anyone else. nforcer06164: I see. nforcer06164: what advantages would I get from posting what I found? nforcer06164: I only see it as ruining the whole plan TasselFoot: ok. nforcer06164: well, I wanted to know what you saw to gain from it. TasselFoot: not sure nforcer06164: I'm sure someone could do something else we haven't thought of with the info, but then Alain's plan falls through nforcer06164: so far, we only know that eric, afro, and hans can either be the real seer or do the fake seer bit TasselFoot: ok. wasn't really thinking about it. just thought... data = posted. nforcer06164: I know, it's okay nforcer06164: but, if they do come forward, at least to eyespew, we will have to find out who it is nforcer06164: not sure how, but it's necessary nforcer06164: after that, we leak the info somehow that the wolves will pick it up, while we make it look like we didn't know we let it slip nforcer06164: they attempt to wolf that person, their claim to being a seer is most likely legit nforcer06164: if not, we can label them as a likely wolf nforcer06164: easy enough nforcer06164: only takes a day nforcer06164: but first, we need to find out who the potential seer is nforcer06164: in fact, by posting that, I could procure the response we need nforcer06164: but it has to be executed perfectly nforcer06164: first, I would need to contact eyespew and make sure he understands what's going on TasselFoot: go for it. nforcer06164: I'm going to wait for now, though nforcer06164: I'm going to think it over a little longer TasselFoot: ok nforcer06164: problem is, if I post before I talk to him, he won't help us TasselFoot: so talk to him nforcer06164: hes not here nforcer06164: I would TasselFoot: patience nforcer06164: ^_^ nforcer06164: I think that's the best way to go nforcer06164: if eyespew trusts me enough to go with it TasselFoot: i'd suggest keeping the plan to only involving you. he's less likely to trust the info/plan if you say 3 other people are apart of it, etc. nforcer06164: right nforcer06164: but here's where I see a flaw nforcer06164: suppose I bring it up to him nforcer06164: and tell him if this person isn't wolfed, etc. that he's suspicious nforcer06164: suppose I'm a wolf, and I don't try to wolf this potential seer TasselFoot: that is the only potential. nforcer06164: exactly TasselFoot: but, if he thinks you're a wolf, it doesn't matter nforcer06164: wait, there's a safety net here TasselFoot: you won't get the info to start nforcer06164: the seer sees me during the night he is guarded nforcer06164: so, it becomes perfectly legit TasselFoot: ok TasselFoot: y'know... we don't even know if there is a seer. nforcer06164: right nforcer06164: that's why if there isn't a seer, we pull out a wolf nforcer06164: saying they do come out to eyespew nforcer06164: which is why this plan is almost sure to pull out either the seer, or the wolf nforcer06164: a wolf** nforcer06164: okay, eb said he talked to eyespew without me even asking nforcer06164: so we only don't know about Kilga TasselFoot: ok. and eric? i gotta go. nforcer06164: eric is a no nforcer06164: see ya nforcer06164: thanks a lot, by the way, for discussing it TasselFoot: its what i'm here for You are no longer directly connected to nforcer06164 because the connection has been interrupted.. nforcer06164 signed off at 10:49:47 PM. nforcer06164 signed on at 6:34:17 PM. nforcer06164 signed off at 6:34:22 PM. nforcer06164 signed on at 7:09:29 PM. nforcer06164 signed off at 7:29:42 PM. nforcer06164 signed on at 7:59:31 PM. nforcer06164 signed off at 8:01:34 PM. nforcer06164 signed on at 9:48:03 PM. nforcer06164 signed off at 9:48:16 PM. NotSoFarOff: I don't know what to make of this.. NotSoFarOff: Or if there is even anything to make of it at all. TasselFoot: what NotSoFarOff: Alain made a list that said he thought Jurs was a wolf. NotSoFarOff: And once nforcer switched his vote to him, it put alain in danger. NotSoFarOff: Alain asked me to switch to neo, I couldn't. I had to leave. So I did. NotSoFarOff: But tell me, how in the hell did he get JURS to vote neo for him? NotSoFarOff: Am I making wine out of water, or is there something weird about this? TasselFoot: i don't know. TasselFoot: she was saving herself too NotSoFarOff: I guess that's true. NotSoFarOff: But I just find it odd that she would side with someone that is obviously not on her team. Or on the flip side, he would try and get a vote out of someone he called a wolf. TasselFoot: which is why i think ld/jurs are wolves still NotSoFarOff: But to point the finger at alain for a second: NotSoFarOff: Why he would try and get a vote out of someone he called a wolf. NotSoFarOff: ...Question mark. TasselFoot: save himself still NotSoFarOff: I guess. TasselFoot: he said he talked to her on the phone TasselFoot: thought she was less likely a wolf NotSoFarOff: But would you agree, that in a knife in a box situation like this, you could say that Neo and Jurs are unrelated? NotSoFarOff: Or moreso, that either Neo or Jurs were wolves, not both? TasselFoot: i'm not sure. TasselFoot: i'm going to do an in depth analyzation of the accusations tomorrow. TasselFoot: i'll post my findings. NotSoFarOff: Ok. NotSoFarOff: Because I don't know what to make of it. NotSoFarOff signed off at 8:48:22 PM. NotSoFarOff signed on at 8:49:19 PM. NotSoFarOff signed off at 8:49:52 PM. NotSoFarOff signed on at 8:57:41 PM. NotSoFarOff signed off at 9:01:36 PM. NotSoFarOff signed on at 9:24:32 PM. NotSoFarOff signed off at 10:58:16 PM. NotSoFarOff signed on at 3:19:04 PM. NotSoFarOff is idle at 3:27:11 PM. NotSoFarOff is no longer idle at 4:08:52 PM. NotSoFarOff is idle at 4:19:33 PM. NotSoFarOff is no longer idle at 8:05:29 PM. NotSoFarOff is idle at 8:40:21 PM. NotSoFarOff is no longer idle at 8:44:37 PM. NotSoFarOff: Who are you thinking of tonight? TasselFoot: you mean today? NotSoFarOff: YEAH WHATEVER NotSoFarOff: With the friggin technicalities.. TasselFoot: c'mon. you're talking to me. TasselFoot: i absolutely refuse to be set up on some wordplay. NotSoFarOff: hah NotSoFarOff: That would be great. NotSoFarOff: Hey, who you thinking of getting rid of tonight? NotSoFarOff: alain NotSoFarOff: OMG. WOLF. NotSoFarOff: lol trixd u TasselFoot: i don't know. apparently it is between eb and ld. NotSoFarOff: Whatever happened to your super analyzation to the accusations that were made? TasselFoot: i got lazy. NotSoFarOff is idle at 9:04:36 PM. NotSoFarOff is no longer idle at 9:08:47 PM. NotSoFarOff: Xtrialan Derrorx (9:33:25 PM): Do not vote for LD. NotSoFarOff (9:33:36 PM): ... Xtrialan Derrorx (9:33:52 PM): I dont think he's a wolf Xtrialan Derrorx (9:34:01 PM): No one's backing him up Xtrialan Derrorx (9:34:09 PM): remember that theory that you helped me not die with? Xtrialan Derrorx (9:34:14 PM): The same is applying for him Xtrialan Derrorx (9:34:17 PM): No one is backing him up TasselFoot: i posted about that NotSoFarOff: Ironically. NotSoFarOff: JURS is backing him up. NotSoFarOff: And who do we think is a wolf? :-\ TasselFoot: dude, i don't know. i'm out of the loop. TasselFoot: honestly, i'm following eyespew today. NotSoFarOff signed off at 11:01:53 PM. NotSoFarOff signed on at 3:42:27 PM. NotSoFarOff is away at 3:43:35 PM. NotSoFarOff signed on at 5:01:11 PM. NotSoFarOff returned at 9:36:07 PM. NotSoFarOff: So, my good friend. NotSoFarOff: Have you come up with any new evidence? TasselFoot: Just against you. NotSoFarOff: <3 NotSoFarOff: What's that? TasselFoot: You're still being awfully quiet. And, you seem awfully interested in what I can find. NotSoFarOff: Well, I'll continue to be awfully quiet. NotSoFarOff: I've been awfully busy all week. TasselFoot: np. just busting your balls. NotSoFarOff: And will continue to be until Saturday night. NotSoFarOff: Competition stuff today, concert tomorrow, wedding rehearsal tomorrow, wedding Saturday. Then everything in my life slows down. NotSoFarOff: Or. NotSoFarOff: Wedding rehearsal Friday. NotSoFarOff: I'm surprised Eric racked as many votes up as he did. TasselFoot: bandwagoning will do that NotSoFarOff: Eric's bandwagoning, or bandwagoning onto his vote? TasselFoot: read the thread... NotSoFarOff: Ok. I get it now. I just skimmed it before. NotSoFarOff: Where do you think the wolf votes fell? Onto eb or eric? Or spread throughout? TasselFoot: spread, i'd imagine, if they are both human.... one sided if one of them is a wolf. NotSoFarOff: Honestly.. NotSoFarOff: I'm not really sure if we lynched a wolf yet. NotSoFarOff: Oh yeah, there's Neon. NotSoFarOff: Maybe. TasselFoot: who knows NotSoFarOff: But you, my friend, have done quite a good job of staying out of the spotlight. NotSoFarOff: You haven't landed a single vote yet. TasselFoot: i try. NotSoFarOff: And really, you're overdue for a wolf role, aren't you? TasselFoot: if you say so. statistics say 3/16 chance NotSoFarOff: And you really haven't had your innovative ideas as you usually would. TasselFoot: you haven't had your intuitions. what is your point. and, what innovative ideas? NotSoFarOff: That's not true. I haven't told anyone them. I try my best to keep them away from my or anyone elses decision making. NotSoFarOff: But what I mean is, you usually try and take charge. You haven't assumed that position this game. TasselFoot: ask eyespew. NotSoFarOff: I'm just leaving all options open, that's all. NotSoFarOff signed off at 11:04:34 PM. If you read all of that, you can see how pushy tass is being, especially to me. Sure he is Tass, but this is just uncalled for. Also, I know that all the special roles are dead, since the only one that contacted me (alain, guardian) is dead now. This makes sense, since they could all have revealed themselves to tass. Also, Tass said only alain or LD would have the guts to kill blah night one. You know who else would? TASS.
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Oh, one other thing. Tass mentioned to me that he has talked to pretty much everyone, but that he "deleted" some of his conversations for some reason. This SCREAMS wolf to me.
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03-19-2005, 09:16 AM | #286 |
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For everything eyespew just posted (It was a joint effort). I would also like to throw one thing out there, which Tass screwed himself by telling me. Alain was told before he was killed, that he was being wolfed. Now, alain didn't tell anyone this info because he has integrity for the game. Let me ask you something... Who in this game, has the guts to tell someone they are about to be wolfed, knowing they won't say anything. What? Speak up, did you say tass? Thats what I thought.
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I'm now REALLY confused.
Just had this chat with eyespew.... and, nothing helped to unconfuse me. eyespewgreekfire (12:26:54 PM): youre a dead man TasselFoot (12:27:18 PM): huh? eyespewgreekfire (12:27:23 PM): check twg eyespewgreekfire (12:27:45 PM): not even you can pull yourself out of this rut, wolf TasselFoot (12:28:32 PM): i'm playing spades. all i see is you posted our convos? TasselFoot (12:28:39 PM): or, the convos i sent you eyespewgreekfire (12:29:40 PM): and some shit at the bottom TasselFoot (12:30:29 PM): dude, i mentioned initially to more than one person that i could and would have killed blah. TasselFoot (12:30:41 PM): didn't feel the need to mention it again because it wasn't me. TasselFoot (12:31:02 PM): you didn't even vote for me. eyespewgreekfire (12:31:07 PM): yes i did eyespewgreekfire (12:31:08 PM): at the top TasselFoot (12:32:50 PM): what can I say... I'm not a wolf. I didn't keep convos with others because they were pointless. 2-3 lines. eyespewgreekfire (12:33:01 PM): okay eyespewgreekfire (12:33:02 PM): whatever eyespewgreekfire (12:33:04 PM): my vote stands TasselFoot (12:37:57 PM): let me just clarify for finality... your vote for me is based off on information that I SENT YOU. Based on circumstancial evidence about why I don't have other convos, and because I seem pushy? Sorry... was just joking around. I'm definately not the only one who has done that. eyespewgreekfire signed off at 12:41:06 PM.
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Jay, to answer that.... wth. Have I ever told someone they were dead before they were when I was a wolf? No. I haven't. Stop making shit up about me.
Every god damn thing that has been used as evidence is complete bull. You're making up stuff about me left and right Jay. Saying I didn't ask to be seered. I did. I stopped when eyespew was saved and no seer came forward. No point anymore, right? You're using all these conversations I've had with Hans, eyespew, LD... as evidence. I GAVE THOSE TO EYESPEW. Jesus christ. Maybe its because I haven't lived this long since TWG5 or what... but, THIS IS HOW I ALWAYS ACT, especially late into a game. God. You people are really starting to fucking piss me off. Complete nonsense and outright lies are being used to try and convict me. If this isn't the work of whatever wolves are left, I don't know what is. This must be the only reason I'm still alive in the first place, so that they can get the satisfaction of putting me through this. I AM SO MAD.
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03-19-2005, 10:04 AM | #289 |
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I was wrong with what I stated in our conversation, and I checked and you were right.
That still doesn't change the fact that 3 other people (including eyespew) have come to me with the same suspicion. There aren't 4 wolves and certainly eyespew isn't one of them.
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03-19-2005, 10:07 AM | #290 |
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OK... so what? If 3 other people want to shoot Heroin, does it automatically become a great idea?
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03-19-2005, 10:16 AM | #291 |
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Aight... here is the deal. Above and on page 19, I've done the best that I can to counter all of this "evidence" against me. I hope that you can all see how absurd the evidence is. On the other hand, let me refresh all of you about 2 others who are still floating around...
Hans, who I gave a laundry list of evidence against back on page 16 or 17, and has said NOTHING in return in regards to his vote for me or for my evidence back on him. Who would go quiet when evidence is presented against them? A guilty man. Eric, who was saved by a miracle coin flip on day 3, and HAS NOT MADE A SINGLE POST SINCE. Is that not suspicious? He is a whisker away from being lynched, gets saved, and goes silent. People... think about when you have been wolves, and how you would have acted in these situations. Is silence and slinking away from the limelight not the #1 action of wolves who are trying to save their asses? They let the humans accuse and lynch other humans, while people forget about them. DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN.
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03-19-2005, 11:23 AM | #292 |
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Alright, let's cut the shit. We all know that alain was the guardian, and if you don't, you do now. The only reason I'm saying this publicly is that the wolves already know. It's OBVIOUS. All the blues are already dead, or so says eyespew. He has not been contacted by the psychic or seer(and I'm sure it's safe to assume that either of them are in the game), so you can come to one conclusion: They're dead.
I really don't think that it's a coincidence that all of the blues are dead. Who is the ONE person that has always offered to be contacted by the blues? Tass. Who has the balls to kill blah on day one? Tass. Who is smart enough to run circles around people and not land a single fucking vote? TASS. If this is even more damning evidence that I have kept to myself, simply because it's soft, but make of it what you will: In the chat, the NIGHT ALAIN DIED, alain enters the room. Me, Tass and alain are in the room. Alain then leaves a few minutes later. He was told he died during the night so he would keep his mouth shut. Maybe he left simply because there were only three people in the room. That could be it, but I'd rather think that Tass saw him enter, and told him that he was getting killed. And people, PLEASE don't be surprised by Tass' sudden explosion. I expected it, because he had no idea he was going to be fucked like this. There is another side to this, but I'd rather not talk until tomorrow. And if I die tonight, somebody else will bring it up. Now I must go play poker, but I'll check this at my friends house. Maybe even be on AIM, but that's iffy.
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Tass, I believe the reason Eric vanished is because he had/has another robotics convention.
After talking a little bit to LD and being able to type my thoughts out and look at them, I'm going to vote HansSky since his attack was fairly weak and he just disappeared after it. I want to see him post again and say something.
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Well, damn.
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Also, I'm most certainly not the only person who could or would have killed Blah night one. He is clearly the most logical night 1 kill.... I'm suprised it took this many games before he was killed on night 1. Everythink you have said proves NOTHING. If anything, it makes me 50x MORE suspicious of you Hans. You are taking a completely unmerited attack upon me with circumstancial and incorrect information. More than anything, that hurts me that you think I'm that stupid to not realize that the information you are presenting is wrong in some cases, a HUGE stretch in others, and circumstancial in all. I HAVE to vote for Hans with all of this. There is nothing else I can say... Hans has dug his own grave with blatant bad evidence against me.
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Tass - Hans, eyespew, LD(3)
Hans - Kilga, Tass(2) nForcer - Afro(1) I don't know what to do
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bjstrattonIM: Um, in your current tally, you have yourself voting for both Hans and Tass.
bjstrattonIM: <_< Guess you REALLY don't know what to do. XD
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Damnit, I gotta go. Hans Tass - Hans, eyespew (2) Hans - Kilga, Tass, LD (3) nForcer - Afro(1)
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Is it just me, or did anybody else forget that mead is in this game?
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I didn't forget. I am just silently waiting for Jurs to answer my query about what she said.
On another note, I am really not sure wich way to go on this. Both sides have some compelling evidence. I am going to save my voting till later. Just remember guys, I may not post much, but I am always watching. (spy-like eyeshifting commences) |
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