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  • Duskfall
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2019
    • 0

    #2206
    Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

    Originally posted by leetic
    But the one C and one V were rolled with the rest of the numbers, so leaving them out skews the results
    you are calculating the odds of mikey's claim being correct now, not pre roll, and we have more info now so not including it makes the odds of him being that role incorrect because the knowledge you have skews the odds. If you are calculating the pre roll odds of him being C then you would actually need to remove the fact you are already claimed 1 shot cop because that does not effect the result you are trying to look for and you should be account for every scenario thats has more than one C, as all those setups allow for a cop and therefore for mikey to claim cop.

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    • ShadoWolfe
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2009
      • 171

      #2207
      Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

      Originally posted by Duskfall
      i realised i was wrong after but you are also wrong LOL



      its around 1 percent because its 2 cs out of 5 since we already have 1 c and 1 v given
      No. It's 3 Cs out of 7. The V just gets treated as a non-C roll and you'd never take out anything because the setup was rolled out of 7





      Originally posted by Hakulyte
      I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
      Originally posted by XelNya
      " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
      Originally posted by YoshL
      "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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      • Duskfall
        FFR Player
        • Oct 2019
        • 0

        #2208
        Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

        Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
        No. It's 3 Cs out of 7. The V just gets treated as a non-C roll and you'd never take out anything because the setup was rolled out of 7
        what are you trying to calculate exactly?

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        • Hakulyte
          Galaxy Collapse says hi
          • Jul 2005
          • 4697

          #2209
          Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

          I feel like we should lynch every PRs who claims something in every C9 games with numbers like that.

          That doesn't make sense to me.

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          • Duskfall
            FFR Player
            • Oct 2019
            • 0

            #2210
            Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

            Originally posted by Hakulyte
            I feel like we should lynch every PRs who claims something in every C9 games with numbers like that.

            That doesn't make sense to me.
            its because they are calculating the pre roll odds of someone rolling a specific pr in a specific setup, all the setups have incredibly low chances of happening but that doesnt mean they dont happen and no matter what pr someone is, the chance of that pr occuring in any given setup is low because there is an incredible amount of variables in this setup

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            • Duskfall
              FFR Player
              • Oct 2019
              • 0

              #2211
              Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

              btw lynching based on statistics like this is obviously terrible and irrelevant to the game in real terms

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              • Makilaz
                TWG Princess
                • May 2006
                • 1094

                #2212
                Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

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                • Duskfall
                  FFR Player
                  • Oct 2019
                  • 0

                  #2213
                  Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                  if you look at it in a different way, given we have 1 C and 1 V already that leaves 5 letters remaining

                  using the knowledge we have right now, if we were to assume 5 Ts, then the odds of that is 0.5 to the power of 5, about 3 percent

                  so about 97 percent of more power rolls exisiting, there are just so many worlds of different power rolls that the odds of every little thing occuring is small. It is not a convenient world of "oh such a small chance", it is a case of out of many possibilities and possible claims, probably hundreds, this is the one world we are in because we have to be in one so it is not that convenient a number

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                  • ShadoWolfe
                    FFR Player
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 171

                    #2214
                    Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                    Stop guys stop, this is besides the point. The odds of 3 Cs out of 7 is 2.296.

                    Leetic, I've seen this setup with 3 doctors on here and with 3 cops before too. These things happen

                    The fact is that there's a red check and the way to resolve it is to lynch the red check to resolve the cop claim. Either FFA is lying and he gets lynched tomorrow or he's not and you can tinfoil on them being partners all you want, though no one will ever follow you on it





                    Originally posted by Hakulyte
                    I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                    Originally posted by XelNya
                    " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                    Originally posted by YoshL
                    "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                    Originally posted by mellon_collie
                    "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                    • Hakulyte
                      Galaxy Collapse says hi
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 4697

                      #2215
                      Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                      The odds of mislynch in this scenario is extremely high because wolves just have to push the balance on the wrong side.

                      If there's not a strong argument going over one side or another, this will end poorly.

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                      • ShadoWolfe
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 171

                        #2216
                        Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                        Originally posted by Duskfall
                        what are you trying to calculate exactly?
                        The same thing leetic originally was. The probability of there being 3 Cs out of 7 rolls





                        Originally posted by Hakulyte
                        I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
                        Originally posted by XelNya
                        " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
                        Originally posted by YoshL
                        "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
                        Originally posted by mellon_collie
                        "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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                        • Duskfall
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2019
                          • 0

                          #2217
                          Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                          it is like saying "oh aliens dont exist on this planet because the odds of that are close to infinitely unlikely", because of all the planets in the universe it is extremelly unlikely any given planet does not have life. But in the grand scheme of things there is probably life on one planet.

                          So mikey's claim is unlikely to be the case the same way me typing this exact post was unlikely to be the case. But someone was also going to be some pr someone (or very likely to be) and in this case it just so happens it is mikey and he is a cop.

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                          • Duskfall
                            FFR Player
                            • Oct 2019
                            • 0

                            #2218
                            Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                            Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                            Stop guys stop, this is besides the point. The odds of 3 Cs out of 7 is 2.296.

                            Leetic, I've seen this setup with 3 doctors on here and with 3 cops before too. These things happen

                            The fact is that there's a red check and the way to resolve it is to lynch the red check to resolve the cop claim. Either FFA is lying and he gets lynched tomorrow or he's not and you can tinfoil on them being partners all you want, though no one will ever follow you on it
                            ok that calculation doesnt even make sense to make still but i think we have tangented way too much LOL

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                            • Hakulyte
                              Galaxy Collapse says hi
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 4697

                              #2219
                              Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                              Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                              you can tinfoil on them being partners all you want, though no one will ever follow you on it
                              That's spicy. I should note that for my future wolf games.

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                              • flashflash account
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2017
                                • 567

                                #2220
                                Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

                                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                                That's spicy. I should note that for my future wolf games.
                                jokes aside, me being partners with dbp and bussing for cred makes slightly more sense than me sacrificing myself to defend jess

                                and it's not even lylo
                                aka mikey

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