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  • stavie33
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2006
    • 1925

    #2146
    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

    Originally posted by Niala
    It might just be something to do with me being a relatively new spread player, too, but I can't seem to PA them at all. I always manage to get at least like 10 boos/goods. I'm lucky to not get a miss in the 64th sections, actually. I can see where somebody can think it's not that hard, though, considering that the awkward 64th patterns are really the only thing about it that makes it an FMO, and if you can do those well enough, well, it's a pretty easy song.
    yeah, that's the reason, you'll see differently when you get better. It's a mid FMO, 78-79 IMO. The ONLY hard part in the entire song is the 1st 64th roll wall that has a quick staircase at the end, other than that I can AAA the entire song. October I think is 80, that's my opinion, Bloodmeat is 79 IMO, and Perfect Cherry Storm is 80, but maybe 81, I do have trouble with the jump trills speedwise
    It's getting better all the time
    I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
    The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
    You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
    Turning me round (Oh Oh)
    Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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    • mhss1992
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2007
      • 788

      #2147
      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

      Hey, about Bus Rides With People...
      For heaven's sake, this is NOT a VC, it's AT LEAST 77. It's much harder than Vertex Beta, Keep In Mind or whatever other borderline songs.
      jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

      Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

      Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

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      • stavie33
        FFR Player
        • Aug 2006
        • 1925

        #2148
        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

        Originally posted by mhss1992
        Hey, about Bus Rides With People...
        For heaven's sake, this is NOT a VC, it's AT LEAST 77. It's much harder than Vertex Beta, Keep In Mind or whatever other borderline songs.
        You know, as much as I'm ashamed to admit it, I kinda agree (76 difficulty though). My first impression of the song was quite a shock, the 32nd rolls and 64ths 32nd jump part, along with weird patterns and jump stream, this song took me the longest of any VC to AAA in a few months. I'd say it's a 74, but it could be in others opinion a 76, idk, up to JX, I'd leave it really high VC, but yeah, it's hard stuff
        It's getting better all the time
        I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
        The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
        You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
        Turning me round (Oh Oh)
        Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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        • bmah
          shots FIRED
          Profile Moderator
          FFR Simfile Author
          Global Moderator
          • Oct 2003
          • 8448

          #2149
          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

          I had the same experience with stavie. Bus Rides With People looks intimidating, but it's surprisingly not that bad, for some reason I cannot explain. We need more opinions.

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          • One Winged Angel
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            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2007
            • 10837

            #2150
            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

            It's definitely low FMO...hardest VC excluding **** like P4U and For FFR, and harder than NWE imo


            Originally posted by ilikexd
            i want to be cucked by cirno

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            • qqwref
              stepmania archaeologist
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2005
              • 4092

              #2151
              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

              Yeah, I'm going to say FMO too. I played it again today and I don't know how the hell I SDG'd it but it's definitely not a high VC.
              Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81)
              Best SDG: PANTS (86)
              Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

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              • stavie33
                FFR Player
                • Aug 2006
                • 1925

                #2152
                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                Yeah, let's go with 76 difficulty, bus rides with people annoys me
                It's getting better all the time
                I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                • jimerax
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 8185

                  #2153
                  Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                  k we'll go with stavie's final list. can you or someone compile the list with this format (you don't need to fill notes/bpm)?
                  Code:
                  80 (D2) [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=173]Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star [/url](1337 Notes / BPM 180)
                  also some missed secret/token songs
                  Hellhounds On My Trail - 80?
                  Coactive [Over My Shoulder Mix] - 83?
                  Tell v3 (Extended Mix) - 87?

                  any ideas?

                  I'll check Bus Rides later. bumped Radical Rat to 83, aka high-FMO.

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                  • Utukku
                    FFR Veteran
                    • May 2008
                    • 137

                    #2154
                    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                    Bus rides is a low fmo imho, its hard to PA and hard to FC, its mind block friendly, and I couldnt SDG it in like 20 tries ...
                    I tried to play Pwntendo since its drum n bass and almost same thing than bus rides, with easier pattern, I did 3 goods on it the 3rd try, so I think Bus is 2-3 lvl higher.

                    75 - 76

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                    • mhss1992
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 788

                      #2155
                      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                      Originally posted by Utukku
                      Bus rides is a low fmo imho, its hard to PA and hard to FC, its mind block friendly, and I couldnt SDG it in like 20 tries ...
                      That little retarded jump-roll-right-jump-jump-jump-jump-thingy in the beggining gave me one of the strrongest mind blocks I've ever had. I AAA'd this part on the first try, but now I very rarely manage to do that.
                      jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

                      Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

                      Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

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                      • stavie33
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1925

                        #2156
                        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                        Yeah, after talking with TC and bmah, and looking at EAG's scores and posts, my list seems pretty solid, and I haven't had any complaints or anyone asking to change something, so yeah.

                        And Otter's Dance is bumped out to VC now! Yay!! Finally, it really needed it, much harder than songs like Dot Death and Randomness Reactor.

                        Bus Rides with People is weird...I'm still unsure whether it should be low FMO (76) or high VC (74-75), my first impression was low FMO, as some tricky patterns and notes caught me by surprise, but after playing it a bit, and AAA'ing a 2nd time, it could go either way, though I prefer high VC. I'll wait for JX's opinion
                        It's getting better all the time
                        I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                        The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                        You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                        Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                        Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                        • mhss1992
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 788

                          #2157
                          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                          Originally posted by stavie33
                          Bus Rides with People is weird...I'm still unsure whether it should be low FMO (76) or high VC (74-75), my first impression was low FMO, as some tricky patterns and notes caught me by surprise, but after playing it a bit, and AAA'ing a 2nd time, it could go either way, though I prefer high VC. I'll wait for JX's opinion
                          Seriously: Compare it to Novo Mundo, NWE, GOSW, etc. And tell me, honestly, if you think this song is a VC.
                          jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

                          Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

                          Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

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                          • stavie33
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1925

                            #2158
                            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                            Originally posted by mhss1992
                            Seriously: Compare it to Novo Mundo, NWE, GOSW, etc. And tell me, honestly, if you think this song is a VC.
                            considering the only one of those I've AAA'd is NWE, I'd say it's much easier than all of those except NWE, which should be VC, honestly. Novo Mundo's roll wall is evil, mainly because it's too slow to perfectly jump trill it, so you need to hit them, leaving me with that lone good BF nearly everytime. Trill in GOSW are harder than anything in BRWP, it's just icky patterns and weird notes (64th 32nd jump part, the last 2 32nd rolls are weird), that's about it

                            idk, needs more opinions
                            It's getting better all the time
                            I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                            The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                            You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                            Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                            Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                            • stavie33
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1925

                              #2159
                              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                              Originally posted by jimerax
                              k we'll go with stavie's final list. can you or someone compile the list with this format (you don't need to fill notes/bpm)?
                              Code:
                              80 (D2) [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=173]Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star [/url](1337 Notes / BPM 180)
                              also some missed secret/token songs
                              Hellhounds On My Trail - 80? agreed, maybe 81 just because of the guitar solo, but otherwise 80 is fine, yeah, 80
                              Coactive [Over My Shoulder Mix] - 83? agreed
                              Tell v3 (Extended Mix) - 87? agreed, maybe 88 due to the long jacks, but it's up to you, I suck at jacks so don't listen to me, however I did FC it with only 3 boos on my friends account

                              any ideas?

                              I'll check Bus Rides later. bumped Radical Rat to 83, aka high-FMO.
                              replies in bold

                              Also I'll compile the list, should I add it to the full list up front? Aka, copy paste full list in front and add new songs in, then PM to you
                              It's getting better all the time
                              I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                              The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                              You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                              Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                              Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

                              Comment

                              • mhss1992
                                FFR Player
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 788

                                #2160
                                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                                Originally posted by stavie33
                                considering the only one of those I've AAA'd is NWE, I'd say it's much easier than all of those except NWE, which should be VC, honestly. Novo Mundo's roll wall is evil, mainly because it's too slow to perfectly jump trill it, so you need to hit them, leaving me with that lone good BF nearly everytime. Trill in GOSW are harder than anything in BRWP, it's just icky patterns and weird notes (64th 32nd jump part, the last 2 32nd rolls are weird), that's about it

                                idk, needs more opinions
                                It's funny, I didn't have trouble with the roll walls themselves. What killed my AAA in Novo Mundo was an inconvenient adrenaline rush at the end of the song, in the last 3 notes or so. That's why I hate it so much.
                                jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

                                Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

                                Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

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