04-1-2008, 11:02 PM | #2801 |
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Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl
I will play with items if i REALLY have to but not on every match. And when i do play in matches with items i play half assed because i really can't get into it. I only really try when it's an itemless match. Can't really have fun when there are obstacles on the stage that are preventing me from what should be an assured win. But i accept your challenge and it will have to be this friday or saturday.
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04-1-2008, 11:05 PM | #2802 | |
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1. that skill still is a big factor in item matches 2. that an item user can be as good as a tourny player i think friday night would be ok |
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04-1-2008, 11:08 PM | #2803 |
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I'm more than willing to prove both of those wrong. Friday night sounds good to me. I'll definitely be on so don't forget.
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04-1-2008, 11:14 PM | #2804 |
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Korny I agree with you to a degree but...
There is a skill to using items. The timing and ability to aim throws is enormously helpful compared to not being skilled in that way. I don't mean stupid-ass "get this item and you are unstoppable" items, I mean items like fan or beam sword or Mr Saturn. It's a wholly different skill, and in fact, a wholly different playing style, but the best OVERALL player, will be the one who is skilled in both close-combat/itemless AND item usage (again, taking note that I mean the items that actually require skill to make use of, not hammer, not smart bomb, not Pokeball, not any of that ****). For example, consider two people who are evenly matched. One can use items skillfully, the other cannot. Thus, the one who can use items well is more skilled.
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04-1-2008, 11:18 PM | #2805 |
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Well it wouldn't really matter because you will never find a best overall player. Ken hoang, the best super smash bros. melee player of all time, probably isn't very skilled in item usage. Regardless, he is pure legend, and still considered the best smash player overall.
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04-1-2008, 11:22 PM | #2806 | |
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04-1-2008, 11:23 PM | #2807 | |
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It's really not THAT hard. Just takes some practice is all.
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04-1-2008, 11:26 PM | #2808 |
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If by skillset you mean the ability to throw items with good enough accuracy to usually hit your target, then i have those skills already. If i have an item i almost always throw it.
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04-1-2008, 11:28 PM | #2809 |
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i throw the useless keep the important.. throwing a fireworks cannon (or whatever is called in english) is a waste.
besides if you win in a item based battle it means that the first point is proved right Last edited by zidart; 04-1-2008 at 11:31 PM.. |
04-1-2008, 11:32 PM | #2810 |
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Not just accuracy, but also knowing WHEN to throw, being proficient at responding to items (such as knowing what to expect out of your opponent when they get their hands on each sort of item, and also the ability to catch if the circumstance calls for it), and probably the hurdle for you: to feel comfortable with them and think of them as a bonus for you, rather than something which is holding you back.
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04-1-2008, 11:33 PM | #2811 | |
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04-1-2008, 11:33 PM | #2812 |
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I think that regardless of who wins, point one is being proven....the only point that needs be considered is #2.
About beating people up to keep them from getting smash balls... I played a FFA with my friends recently, and smash balls were the only item on. I was Lucas, and got every smash ball that appeared. I was left against one friend, up 3 stocks to 1. A smash ball appeared, and I didn't wanna get it, because I had been getting at least 80% of the smash balls that appeared that night...so I started focusing on keeping him away XD. Went well until I accidentally snagged it. Yeah...fun times.... Last edited by masterhickle; 04-1-2008 at 11:36 PM.. |
04-1-2008, 11:34 PM | #2813 |
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sorry I didn't read the last few posts so I'm no real impact on the current conversation, but yesterday I played online for the 1st time, and got my ass kicked 4 out of 5 times, and I lagged pretty bad sometimes too which sucked, but I'll post my friend code here and edit it into my sig shortly. 4339-2489-9448
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04-1-2008, 11:36 PM | #2814 |
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not exactly, if i happen to win in a item match but not in a itemless match it would mean i depend on items. so if he wins in both matches he proves 1 right and 2 wrong. if i win in both matches it proves both right.
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04-1-2008, 11:58 PM | #2815 |
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If i win both it doesn't necessarily prove 1 right. You don't even have to beat me to prove 2 right you just have to be able to keep up with me.
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04-2-2008, 12:07 AM | #2816 |
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well i will be happy if i at least leave you in 100% with one stock.. wheter thats possible or not i have no idea XD (i'm acually not the best person to try this) but heck i want a challenge, i'm tired of playing with the same old people on-line.
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04-2-2008, 10:26 AM | #2817 |
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Hey Korny, PM me your friend code. Mine is in my sig. Let's brawl sometime this weekend.
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04-2-2008, 11:45 AM | #2818 |
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On the weekends i'm literally online all day and night so i'll have plenty of time to play everyone who's been wanting to play me.
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04-2-2008, 11:54 AM | #2819 |
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I'm game to fight whoever Im online alot for the next week so just let me know!
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04-2-2008, 03:37 PM | #2820 |
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I'm somewhere between tourneyfag and casual player when it comes to items. I realize that there are far too many random elements at play that can only be overridden by playing a very long match when it comes to items, so when I'm playing someone to see which of us is better, I do no items.
But still, I find items make the game way more fun. Turning them off makes the game too simplistic to enjoy a lot. When I'm just in it for fun, items are on.
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