TWG CLXIX: TWGabout Revolution - GAME THREAD

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by XelNya

The nice thing is we got some SUPER good info out of Raeko's lynch, which can lead us to solve.

Gonna ask for pure curiosity, do you think the other wolves were on the raeko wagon because it wasn't too hard a wagon to sell / sell themself?

This game has 3 wolves and 1 SK.

MML was first one. If H&H is a hit (very likely), it makes sense to think inDheart is the last one.

As for SK hunt, I still think Xiz is still the place to start.

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

1. thesunfan -- Claimed blue
2. Xelnya --
3. FreezinIce -- Did a lot of good D1 work, and helped finalize the doom of MML.
4. blindreper1179 -- Did a lot of good D1 work and was on MML most of the D1 Phase. I know these guys fight a lot, but i feel like this wouldn't have happened if W/W was a thing
5. lurker
8. Hakulyte
9. DarkManticoreX2 me
11. mellonxcollie - one of the wolfier players in the game, H&H wagon vote, responded to blind(?) that the vote on her made her happy because it was going to get her invested and then never got invested.
12. Hateandhatred basically IC based on D1 end votes
13. inDheart --- Playing a lot like Serial killer freakysnots
14. Makilaz
15. Xiz - Waffled hard on MML, and has used the excuse of a blue power that may or may not be in the game as a defense. Actually made a KITB happen by putting H&H in the box with MML, and may have been trying to resolve if vote modification roles exist. Could be PR hunting. To be resolved after Mellon lynch.
16. Wayward Vagabond

Worth noting in case I'm wrong somewhere. I wonder where he's at after today's flips tbh.

[Hakulyte]

Actually, Manti feels incredibly neutral and this could be a SK trait.

Xiz feels less and less likely as time goes on based on game involvement.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

We're talking about the guy who hammerd you in jTWG as a PR with a wagon filled by town players.

I'm pretty sure Hateandhatred is the kind of person who will do these kind of plays because it makes no sense.

If it makes no sense, we're in "Sven plan" territory.

It makes sense for me at least.

I expect there to be coaching during the pregame phase, and while not a scenario I think would be explained, I do think he's got enough common sense to not want to bus in that situation.

Because I think Sven can understand basic risk / reward. If anything he should have decided to not self pres to save the stronger player, unless his role is significantly stronger.

Which leads me to suspect in your scenario he may be Miles.

Holding the first game against him would be... Not great.

Considering people like Xiz were on that wagon.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Which leads me to suspect in your scenario he may be Miles.

Considering how Miles work, I'm not sure what this is changing overall.

What's your point exactly ?

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

This game has 3 wolves and 1 SK.

MML was first one. If H&H is a hit (very likely), it makes sense to think inDheart is the last one.

As for SK hunt, I still think Xiz is still the place to start.



Worth noting in case I'm wrong somewhere. I wonder where he's at after today's flips tbh.

I think based on kills Xiz is less likely, unless you've magically got xiz reads compiled and two of the kills were in his top three towns.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Considering how Miles work, I'm not sure what this is changing overall.

What's your point exactly ?

I'm trying to give a justification as to why Hatred would self pres his partner.

And the only role there that feels stronger than Lar's is Miles based off over all potential.

[XelNya]

Also playing this game without my glasses off is... Not that enjoyable.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

I'm trying to give a justification as to why Hatred would self pres his partner.

And the only role there that feels stronger than Lar's is Miles based off over all potential.

Note this is an IMHO and is not based on any +1 - 1's of town PR power hierarchy.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Note this is an IMHO and is not based on any +1 - 1's of town PR power hierarchy.

ala that vigi is either neutral or a -1 (I forget which) because it hinders town more often than it helps statistically

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by XelNya

I'm trying to give a justification as to why Hatred would self pres his partner.

And the only role there that feels stronger than Lar's is Miles based off over all potential.

Miles looks pretty hard to play because you have to force lynches on someone.

Nightkills doesn't seems to count.

He could still be Miles and he probably doesn't have Master Wolf status yet.

In the near impossible case where he targeted MML, it would break KitB with +0.1 vote and H&H would have rip in the RNG part.

If he picked Raeko, she probably flipped Greg before Master Wolf could apply. (?)

I don't know if master wolf status applies before or after Gregory Edgeworth's case.

I'm just going to assume he didn't pick her and got caught by it.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Miles looks pretty hard to play because you have to force lynches on someone.

Nightkills doesn't seems to count.

He could still be Miles and he probably doesn't have Master Wolf status yet.

In the near impossible case where he targeted MML, it would break KitB with +0.1 vote and H&H would have rip in the RNG part.

If he picked Raeko, she probably flipped Greg before Master Wolf could apply. (?)

I don't know if master wolf status applies before or after Gregory Edgeworth's case.

I'm just going to assume he didn't pick her and got caught by it.

Hard to play but with coaching: possible.

[XelNya]

tldr I am trying to give hatred respect that he's not... Actually the kinda player who'd constantly make hammers like the jtwg game.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by XelNya

tldr I am trying to give hatred respect that he's not... Actually the kinda player who'd constantly make hammers like the jtwg game.

Oh, I do think he can play well. I just think he didn't in this particular scenario.

I also think he wasn't around that much during this game so, that probably had an impact too.

He had cool plans in the jTWG as well.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by XelNya

The equivalent of asking a brick wall to move a centimeter.

Listen here you lil shit....

Xelnya town- Recent posting and thinking of a few worlds helps me lean you this way. Keep up the thought process posting, and I don't doubt your towniness.

blindreper1179 LOCK CLEAR TOWN- but seriously. I'm town, but if that's not enough, I caught MML and locked in on him for the entire phase. That's even worse than bussing at that point. W/W would be stupid on my end. I could be the sk? I guess, but I'm not and I'm mad about it.

lurker town- He has his usual paranoia aspect, to me at least. He seems genuine saying he's doing what he can to help despite irl things.

Hakulyte town- Haku is playing Haku and that's about all I have. That huge ass I'm a wolf post was stupid and waste of time reading. Don't do that.

DarkManticoreX2 scum- Never said he was busy or anything, and town manti usually puts in the effort into games. Also "If he's still alive past N1, He's a wolf."

Hateandhatred literally could not be more town- That was sarcasm if no one caught that. I'm thinking he's SK because I don't see the very first day lynch candidates being w/w.

inDheart scum-memes memes memes, gut is telling me any concern he has trying to figure this game out is a hoax.

Makilaz town-Love me, stop being so rude, don't you know that I'm human too.

Xiz scum- Another Paranoia person that always concerns me. Trying not to think about that, I feel he has his own agenda.

Wayward Vagabond scum- Like I said earlier, he's concern for the game doesn't seem genuine. He's prodding, but nothing to dramatic.


5 scum read players with 3 scum left, I know I know, but that's where I am. My options are open.

[blindreper1179]

I was drunk when I made that list initially. I couldn't of did all that. lmao

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Listen here you lil shit....

Sorry, as you're a memeber of coldplay, and somehow nickelback as well, I will likely not be doing this.

[XelNya]

Unintentional typo pun, *pats back* proud of it.

[lurker]

i'm just assuming he's a prosecutor because it's statistically more likely that he is and an SK flip gives much more help safety wise than information wise

[Makilaz]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

I hope you realize how bad this makes you look for me at least

i'm well aware of how complete trash i've been this game so far, yes

gonna try to find some time today to do a hard reset of reads

[Xiz]

I had a dream about this game.

Vendetta died in the night. I then felt so sad I hosted a funeral online, but got pissed off that online coffins cost so much money.


In serious news, i'm gonna be the unpopular opinion. I know I will be scum read for this but it needs to be said.

There is a chance HH is not really anti-town. It's low but it's there. I don't want to go into specifics because me talking this further could help one of the scum teams.

The problem is, it's not in town's benefit to not lynch HH here. So I don't really know what else I can say.