TWG CLXIX: TWGabout Revolution - GAME THREAD

[lurker]

aite i did it time to die

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

~It is a mystery~

You're pretty much prosecution because your defense is garbage

[Hakulyte]

Apparently [anti-town] tag works in a similar manner as a Seer check.

That means:

A) Hateandhatred cannot be a master wolf.
B) Hateandhatred cannot be a town role unless painted red.

It's pretty much what lurker said.

[lurker]

oh yeah master wolf
that makes the odds of being being town slightly higher but it's still like 90% chance he's scum

[Wayward Vagabond]

Alright so possible but just super low odds

[Hakulyte]

If you look at the early game interactions between MML / H&H, I think it's safe to assume he's a hit.

I kind of find it funny that I randomly called out H&H / Sanzath as W/T in my first troll read list.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

You're pretty much prosecution because your defense is garbage

This should be a good sign tbh.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

haku why have you been so buddy buddy with hatred huh

In case you're serious. H&H spent the majority of the game trying to pocket me and kinda failing.

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Omfg yes sun*** is obviously wolf cuz Team Quebec Alliance is a plan again

Hakulyte pls join in thesunfan

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Thats 2 games in a row you refuse teh ailance

#Denied

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Exactly what I said. Haku and sanzath would be like "Hatred is holding back and that's not normal" and they'd push for a me-lynch. But like I said it's probably not gonna happen haha, this isn't jTWG

Preoccupied with self-meta ideas that shouldn't be important if he was town.

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I just want to push for insta at first opportunity, because I love it to the dismay of many. Although I'm probably never going to get the chance to because this is the real deal

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I am not exactly sure what you want me to explain. If someone is one vote away from instalynch, I'm extremely tempted to just go and happily hammer the lynch. Not into doing that at endgame, but early on sure lol it's hilarious and it puzzles people.

You can criticize this as much as you want, but if I wasn't doing this shit I'm fairly certain everyone who knows me IRL would read it as wolf.

If I was wolf with H&H, I would have told H&H to never hammer in this game. There's a reason why I made a post about red roles, but avoided talking about blue ones.

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I am not disagreeing, and so can Haku.

He Dancespeare like a paralyzed and seizured beast.

He keeps mentioning me as if he wanted others to have me linked to him.

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I cant really be making big posts from work anymore but I'll defend myself at least + provide useless shit.

As far as being Wolf, no. If I was Wolf, I'd probably ditch all of my other distractions and some of my responsibilities because that'd be awesome, truth is Im just a regular VT this time around. I still want to play the game, but coupled with my current situation internet wise (I dont have internet nor a laptop, just an ancient phone and a PS VITA) and the fact I have a lot of actually important work to do (namely, I have to finish painting before the rest of my furnitures arrive on Saturday) does not make me want to go and be active on here. I have promised a read list, but sanz has said he was expecting from me in d1, and frankly that's just so much more convenient for me as I'm already going to my old place this weekend (to pick up furnitures sure, but I can most definitely arrive early and use my sister's laptop to make said post.

As far as the mellon vote, that does sound sketchy and I should have thought before, but I had 5 minutes to decide on a vote before leaving for work (like I said, I'm not supposed to be doing this here anymore), so I just went with whoever had the most vote since any logical vote would be misguided given that I haven't fully read the thread. I have no problem revoking my vote if its better not to vote at all (which is something I'd never consider doing, but yeah, keep in mind I am new at this). I can name a few people I feel good about: lurker, hakulyte, sanzath (against my better judgement), blindreaper, freezinice (although at first I thought he was very wolfy), and for the rest Id have to read some more, but I don't have a specific wolf in mind right now.

I hope this helps lol, I cant do much else atm.

Cool post until you realize he's not really explaining his reads and has nothing related to wolves.

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Lol I was scolding Haku for not being here at EoD while he usually is always around since I'm leaving for work soonish and I want to see what he thinks.

But I decided it would be fun to eloquently tell him in our superior language rekt

Considering I was sitting on Sunfan/Makilaz most of this phase and Sunfan flipped town, it makes sense that he's trying to give me more credibility to push on that.

I spent a large portion of this phase being afk to let the other players interact more. It was partially to check out these kind of situations.

--------

I guess you're free to assume that everything is going according to my evil master plan and that I have the confidence to open wolf in everyone's face and somehow manage to reach F3 like this.

If you really think that, you're probably dreaming with me in my fanfic world at this point.

[Hakulyte]

I'm starting to second guess if someone else is Manfred Von Karma and targeted H&H knowing he would hammer wagons because he did in jTWG.

The first person that comes in mind is myself, but I know that's not the case.

Let's see who was in that jTWG that is also in this game and alive..

Xel/Xiz/WV.

Maybe it's someone here in the unlikely scenario where I get trolled by the real Manfred Von Karma assuming he's in that game and targeted H&H.

Probably little to no point to worry about that yet, but keeping that as a reference I guess.

[lurker]

I know for a fact that two out of those three people would never make a read like that off of a sample size of 1 game and i'm pretty certain the third wouldn't either

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Xiz

This i agree with

Why do you agree with it ?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by lurker

if h8 flips prosecutor i guarantee you indh and xel are clear unless he flips manfred (i.e the closest thing to vanilla in the game)
xiz is still weird regardless of flip but he becomes #1 suspect if h8 flips manfred
brb deep reading/hopefully getting 5 decent posts before i die of sleep exhaustion

I don't follow because master wolves.

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

2. Xelnya town
4.*blindreper1179 LOCK CLEAR TOWN
5.*lurker town
8.*Hakulyte town
9.*DarkManticoreX2 scum
11.*mellonxcollie town
12.*Hateandhatred literally could not be more town
13.*inDheart scum
14.*Makilaz town
15.*Xiz scum
16.*Wayward Vagabond scum

Reminder that explaining reads would be nice.

Originally Posted by inDheart

nah, holding off is better for the moment. i think xiz and i are on the same page with that

can use the time to scumhunt, talk about other things though

You should come back to this before the end of the phase because you either found something in the thread that I missed or you're fake.

@WV

You should get a read list too as they mentioned.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Reminder that explaining reads would be nice.

The equivalent of asking a brick wall to move a centimeter.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by inDheart

also haku i see you there and i don't think you should talk about the setup if you have a thing to say, i don't think you should be preempting something i'm expecting to see

Sorry let me steal this then. I need to feign content to look like I care.

Sarcasm.

Oh and so that way no one get's lost with my posts later I suppose?

I'm gonna operate today as if we found the CK and not a wolf with Mellon's sacrifice. (We actually got lucky on that, unless Mellon was playing the odds game, which I dunno, I feel like she would actually, knowing how likely certain people are in this game to push her to get lynched, and just, I don't wanna delve more than that. Good on you Mellon )

Reason: Lar / Hatred KiTB / the fact he was actually parked on lar which in that sort of KiTB there's zero reason to play that odd's game here. I feel Hatred would understand this.

Let's also peek again at the night kills and how I think they played out because of this:

sanzath / storn42
Thesunfan / FreezinIce

Also the humor of D0 being between a wuff and the CK is worthy of note if this is all actually the case.

[Hakulyte]

Hey Xel, here's what I think is the post in question.

Originally Posted by inDheart

i don't really have a reason to add my vote, i think, because if i counted right i'd be the hammer

last minute for legacies i guess

At first, I thought it was wifom along the lines of: "is this a wolf trying to dodge the hammer or a town trying to dodge the hammer so a wolf gets hit by Gregory Edgeworth" (?)

After that I went like; wait a minute-

Let's assume 2 scenarios.

A) I am town inDheart and I do not want to be the hammer. Why would I post about that ? I have no idea.

B) Let's say I'm wolf inDheart and I post this. What can it achieves ?

Suddenly, there's one scenario that comes in mind; maybe he posted this to warn H&H ?

I don't think he posted this for himself because there's little to no point to do this. If you don't want to be the hammer, you just don't vote at the end.

Does that makes sense ?

[Hakulyte]

Honestly, if H&H voted inDheart or Makilaz with me, he could have been fine.

The fact that he still voted Raeko is also kind of weird by itself.

I'm assuming he didn't expect her to flip Gregory Edgeworth ?

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Hey Xel, here's what I think is the post in question.



At first, I thought it was wifom along the lines of: "is this a wolf trying to dodge the hammer or a town trying to dodge the hammer so a wolf gets hit by Gregory Edgeworth" (?)

After that I went like; wait a minute-

Let's assume 2 scenarios.

A) I am town inDheart and I do not want to be the hammer. Why would I post about that ? I have no idea.

B) Let's say I'm wolf inDheart and I post this. What can it achieve?

Suddenly, there's one scenario that comes in mind; maybe he posted this to warn H&H ?

I don't think he posted this for himself because there's little to no point to do this. If you don't want to be the hammer, you just don't vote at the end.

Does that makes sense ?

That's a good point but can you also explain why Hatred would have a vote on lar to go with that?

Like ok what you're saying is like actually a really good case to build on but there's that one con that keeps me from hard rolling with it

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Honestly, if H&H voted inDheart or Makilaz with me, he could have been fine.

The fact that he still voted Raeko is also kind of weird by itself.

I'm assuming he didn't expect her to flip Gregory Edgeworth ?

I'll be level, and I don't mean any offense to him, because I didn't even know till her flip (sorry roundbox I didn't read the whole op tee hee) but I'm pretty sure there's a low percent chance he was keeping it in mind, or even knew.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by XelNya

That's a good point but can you also explain why Hatred would have a vote on lar to go with that?

We're talking about the guy who hammerd you in jTWG as a PR with a wagon filled by town players.

I'm pretty sure Hateandhatred is the kind of person who will do these kind of plays because it makes no sense.

If it makes no sense, we're in "Sven plan" territory.

It makes sense for me at least.

[XelNya]

The nice thing is we got some SUPER good info out of Raeko's lynch, which can lead us to solve.

Gonna ask for pure curiosity, do you think the other wolves were on the raeko wagon because it wasn't too hard a wagon to sell / sell themself?