TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG Pit

that was such a dumb kill

ok so you guys like get that as a wolf I would never make that kill right?

mega man I can't read what you typed right now since i'm trying to get something done but i'll get to it

I am confused about why you are calling the kill dumb. If it turns out roleblocking on-death effects is actually a thing in this game, then it was a pretty good move for the situation because Human Victory Group now only starts with two members until we get some more blue claims on the table. It'll still work if we get 2 more members on the team.

But I'm really hoping that Boo thing is just Xiz fucking with us and whoever has the cardflip will bring it up soon.

[TWG Pit]

but yeah ok I understood that like 3 minutes after I made that post, but why hunt in the blue pile when there was the potential to gain momentum to get one of us lynched

you wanted to kill me off at....

oh yeah, your plan. this doesn't matter doesn't it

[TWG Mega Man]

Yeah Pit I don't want you dead right now! You and me are the 2 current members of Human Victory Group!

I'm going to start by putting Little Mac under the spotlight!

Mac! You're a blue, aren'tcha? If you're anything besides the Bomb, please say so and become part of Human Victory Group! If not, please "pass" and we'll ask someone else!

And any other non-Bomb blues, if you just want to step up right away, feel free to!

[TWG Pit]

human victory group hype

alright back to work for me. hopefully people pop in soon. this is interesting

[TWG Link]

Can't say I completely follow Megaman's train of thought, but I'm confident that he and Pit are humans at this point and will trust him because frivolous.

So if I'm getting this right, as long as there's one more blue left alive to add to the human victory group, it's autowin?

[TWG Little Mac]

I read through all of your posts Mega Man, and I'm pretty sure I'm following most of what you mean for auto win conditions. A lot of it works on certain assumptions that I'm not too sure about though, like there definitely being one of each of the desired roles. Aren't there games where there have been no medic for instance? The very fact that Kirby is dead, isn't that a strong indicator of no medic in this game?

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

I'm going to start by putting Little Mac under the spotlight!

Mac! You're a blue, aren'tcha? If you're anything besides the Bomb, please say so and become part of Human Victory Group! If not, please "pass" and we'll ask someone else!

I'll have to pass right now!

[TWG King Dedede]

WHAT THE HELL caps

[TWG King Dedede]

MEGA MAN, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE ORACLE'S CARDFLIP POWER TRIGGERS UPON THE ORACLE'S DEATH. SO EITHER GRENINJA WAS ROLEBLOCKED, OR DIDN'T SUBMIT A TARGET, OR BOTH. caps

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG King Dedede

MEGA MAN, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE ORACLE'S CARDFLIP POWER TRIGGERS UPON THE ORACLE'S DEATH. SO EITHER GRENINJA WAS ROLEBLOCKED, OR DIDN'T SUBMIT A TARGET, OR BOTH. caps

Oracle: During each night phase, you can choose a player to give a full flip on a player. Your ability will only activate if you die in the night from wolves. You win when all threats are removed.

So, like, yeah it triggers on death, but it sounds to me like it's similar to Gunsmith in that player other than the Oracle gets to choose how the cardflip is used.

But that Boo thing makes it sound like we're not getting our cardflip.

[TWG Mega Man]

Originally Posted by TWG Link

Can't say I completely follow Megaman's train of thought, but I'm confident that he and Pit are humans at this point and will trust him because frivolous.

So if I'm getting this right, as long as there's one more blue left alive to add to the human victory group, it's autowin?

With Greninja dead and no cardflip, we need two blue claims for this plan to work.

[TWG Mega Man]

I want to ask Dedede next!

Dedede, are you a non-Bomb blue?

[TWG Mega Man]

It bears pointing out again, though, that this is the last phase that this can work, and we only have 6 hours for 4 more players to explicitly state they're not blue or Bomb, so if we could just have one of y'all remaining non-Bomb blues just step up right now, it'd get things moving really quick and easy!

[TWG Mega Man]

I never thought I'd curse 24-hour days, but I really wish we had more time to do this.

[TWG King Dedede]

Originally Posted by TWG Mega Man

I want to ask Dedede next!

Dedede, are you a non-Bomb blue?

NO. caps

[TWG Link]

I'm not a blue either, so that leaves Villager and Yoshi.

Megaman, how do we plan the lynch if they don't show up? Because I would still rather have Yoshi most lynched. But I figure your plan requires him to actually claim whether he's blue.

[TWG Little Mac]

If we have no shows, or even if they fly in here at the last minute we're precluding any discussion right now, so this isn't good.

We need to at least be generating ideas in the event that no one else comes in here and starts crying blue.

[TWG Pit]

hey guys i have to sleep early tonight so i probs won't be around for EOD

or i might and would be exercising bad judgment

gosh darn pop in the thread people...

i mean what do we do if they don't pop in? kill off little mac, link, or dedede? because i don't like the looks of that lynch pool

or do we do what we were doing before this plan?

[TWG Little Mac]

We can get a head start by voting now based on previous days as usual and adjusting as we discuss instead of some crazed frenzy at EoD.

I'm looking to the last vote we just had where people could have possibly just camped on someone. last night we had that no lynch situation, so a wolf may have decided to chill on a townie and net an easy kill assuming we didn't get it together in 3-4 minutes.

Yoshi right now.

[TWG Pit]

5 roles, right?

so 2 oracles (assuming i'm an oracle, which I am), a cop, a gunsmith, and then a medic?

could there be a bomb?

[TWG Little Mac]

I think there has to be some sort of give and take. I'd speculate that having 2 oracles means have 0 of another role.