Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament - Page 13

**Tasselfoot** · 05-10-2008, 12:05 PM

we didn't share answers.... he asked me for a hint privately, and i gave him one. so if i need a hint on one down the road that he knows, he'll give it to me. reciprocity.

yes.... need new round. must max another round.

**funmonkey54** · 05-10-2008, 01:17 PM

ok. I thought you meant you flat out told him the answer. sorry.

kjwkjw does seem to be awfully inactive.

And lastly, the new round is on the 11th (tomorrow). I already have the games picked out for the whole tournament. I am just waiting on the mental challenges.

**kjwkjw** · 05-10-2008, 01:34 PM

Sorry. There WILL be times when I lack. (with HW, essays and such XP) Just remember that I won't forget about this tourney haha. But where is that much to update if people aren't that active either lol.
And also, I will only provide hints for mentals that no one has been able to answer by the end of a round...which hasn't happened yet. That tells me I need better mentals =P

EDIT: Scores have been updated. Please...stop complaining.
CURRENTLY....Tass is winning with a max score of 10,050 (...) and jon is trailing close with around 9,400 points.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-10-2008, 01:59 PM

i wouldn't say that you need harder mentals.... i'd say that you need mentals that are slightly more obvious in what the object of the puzzle is. right now, the puzzles themselves aren't very hard, just figuring out what to do with the puzzle in the first place is challenging. round 1 mental 1 was straightforward, round 2 mental 3 was straightforward. the rest were more of "figure out what i'm asking... then it's simple. otherwise, you're FUBAR'd"

Commandersa1 · 05-10-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

i wouldn't say that you need harder mentals.... i'd say that you need mentals that are slightly more obvious in what the object of the puzzle is. right now, the puzzles themselves aren't very hard, just figuring out what to do with the puzzle in the first place is challenging. round 1 mental 1 was straightforward, round 2 mental 3 was straightforward. the rest were more of "figure out what i'm asking... then it's simple. otherwise, you're FUBAR'd"

Which is why I gave up on this tourney. I can not solve a riddle that I have no idea how to start. Maybe if I had more experience in different types of riddles, and different ways to solve them, I would do well. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-10-2008, 03:08 PM

True. It really is about either having an idea of where to start from previous experience... or just from an ability to think outside the box and come up with the exact same thought as the puzzle creator. I mean, it's really just a different type of puzzle... instead of the goal being to solve the puzzle, the goal is to figure out how to solve the puzzle. Which is a puzzle by itself.

*shrugs*

Doesn't really matter to me... I can solve both.

**kjwkjw** · 05-10-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

i wouldn't say that you need harder mentals.... i'd say that you need mentals that are slightly more obvious in what the object of the puzzle is. right now, the puzzles themselves aren't very hard, just figuring out what to do with the puzzle in the first place is challenging. round 1 mental 1 was straightforward, round 2 mental 3 was straightforward. the rest were more of "figure out what i'm asking... then it's simple. otherwise, you're FUBAR'd"

I am trying. I'll have mathematical mentals coming up on the next round, so those should fit more into the "Here's what you have to do...go do it" type questions.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-10-2008, 03:59 PM

excellent. math = easy.

**kjwkjw** · 05-10-2008, 09:17 PM

But honestly, you people solve those token riddles lol. I can't even figure out where to start for some of them, and comparatively speaking, my mentals are probably easier to get where to go from.

jonathanasdf · 05-10-2008, 09:34 PM

but some of the token answers are OBVIOUS!

sorry but I had to do that :S

SephyxCore · 05-10-2008, 09:48 PM

I'm dropping out. This has really just lost my interest.
Good luck to all the participants.

**kjwkjw** · 05-10-2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SephyxCore

I'm dropping out. This has really just lost my interest.
Good luck to all the participants.

Are you sure? You may get some credits for participation; it's not just first place that gets prizes...

**funmonkey54** · 05-11-2008, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonathanasdf

but some of the token answers are OBVIOUS!

sorry but I had to do that :S

lol. I laughed so hard when I saw this.

New Round id up peoples. go go go!!!

Fractal_Monkey · 05-11-2008, 08:38 AM

Oh hi again. I see a math-related round. Yay.

jonathanasdf · 05-11-2008, 09:54 AM

OMFG... Impossible game and world hardest game in 1 round...... -_- even rubix isn't this evil

**Tasselfoot** · 05-11-2008, 10:28 AM

for round 3 mental 2.... if 2xy=14, you'll have to use imaginary numbers, which i assume is therefore incorrect? it would seem like 2xy should equal 12, not 14. although if that is the case, you will have 2 possible solutions to the mega-equation.

so, regardless, it seems like something is wrong with mental 2...

also, for mental 1... do you think you could write that out just SLIGHTLY more coherently? i get that the point of the solution is to figure out what to solve and where/when, but with it being over about 10 different lines, having multiple question marks in it, and a lack of flowing grammar... it's just retarded.

edit: solved mental 3... pretty straightforward. also, while these 3 games are QUITE hard... you know everyone has played them before. also, i'd say to give some kind of credit even without completion. i know not everyone can finish IQ2 or WHG.

jonathanasdf · 05-11-2008, 10:44 AM

yep tass i got that too for #2. #1 I solved, #3 too lazy to lol

jonathanasdf · 05-11-2008, 11:11 AM

eww:

the one i got for rubix' tourney was at least 100 deaths better...

but too lazy to replay it.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-11-2008, 11:16 AM

i believe i solved #1.... although i got a formula, not an answer.... #3 was simple. yea, something is wrong with #2 and needs to be fixed. also, if 2xy=12 and not 14, then there needs to be a qualifier on whether x or y is larger, since otherwise there will be 2 correct solutions.

ps -

meh. i really hate this game. good thing i'm good at the other 2.

edit: also, i think the scoring for the games is off... 500 for IMP2, 1000-deaths for WHG, and then a max of 4000 for jelly blocks? most games give up to 1000 points per, nothing gives more, yet this one game gives 4000? not to mention, WHG should be completion for 1000, not assumed completion and then penalty for levels. I told rubix this when he used it... he wound up agreeing with me. WHG should be 30 points per level, with a 100 bonus for completion. Or something like that. Beating the game at all is equally as hard to do as maxing (1000 pointing) any of the previous 2 round games, if not harder.

jonathanasdf · 05-11-2008, 11:22 AM

actually, it doesn't matter, cause only us 2 are actually active...

And I want a breakdown of my points? I don't see how I can be almost 600 points behind tass, when the only thing i didn't get better or equal to tass is the movie munchies thing...

Next, #3 B is unsolvable because the width of the Xs aren't known. That means you have a quadratic equation with 2 variables, leading to infinite answers.

And tass; #1 is a answer. It is an INTEGER answer too.

05-10-2008, 12:05 PM	#241
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament we didn't share answers.... he asked me for a hint privately, and i gave him one. so if i need a hint on one down the road that he knows, he'll give it to me. reciprocity. yes.... need new round. must max another round. __________________ RIP

05-10-2008, 01:17 PM	#242
funmonkey54 The Chill Keeper Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,127	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament ok. I thought you meant you flat out told him the answer. sorry. kjwkjw does seem to be awfully inactive. And lastly, the new round is on the 11th (tomorrow). I already have the games picked out for the whole tournament. I am just waiting on the mental challenges. __________________

05-10-2008, 01:34 PM	#243
kjwkjw >w< Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Location, Location Age: 30 Posts: 2,584	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament Sorry. There WILL be times when I lack. (with HW, essays and such XP) Just remember that I won't forget about this tourney haha. But where is that much to update if people aren't that active either lol. And also, I will only provide hints for mentals that no one has been able to answer by the end of a round...which hasn't happened yet. That tells me I need better mentals =P EDIT: Scores have been updated. Please...stop complaining. CURRENTLY....Tass is winning with a max score of 10,050 (...) and jon is trailing close with around 9,400 points. __________________ Goodbye and good riddance, military service (February 23, 2015 ~ February 22, 2017) Project Sekai 437 / Princess Connect! ReDive 265 Last edited by kjwkjw; 05-10-2008 at 01:50 PM..

05-10-2008, 01:59 PM	#244
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament i wouldn't say that you need harder mentals.... i'd say that you need mentals that are slightly more obvious in what the object of the puzzle is. right now, the puzzles themselves aren't very hard, just figuring out what to do with the puzzle in the first place is challenging. round 1 mental 1 was straightforward, round 2 mental 3 was straightforward. the rest were more of "figure out what i'm asking... then it's simple. otherwise, you're FUBAR'd" __________________ RIP

05-10-2008, 03:08 PM	#246
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament True. It really is about either having an idea of where to start from previous experience... or just from an ability to think outside the box and come up with the exact same thought as the puzzle creator. I mean, it's really just a different type of puzzle... instead of the goal being to solve the puzzle, the goal is to figure out how to solve the puzzle. Which is a puzzle by itself. shrugs Doesn't really matter to me... I can solve both. __________________ RIP

05-10-2008, 03:59 PM	#248
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament excellent. math = easy. __________________ RIP

05-10-2008, 09:17 PM	#249
kjwkjw >w< Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Location, Location Age: 30 Posts: 2,584	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament But honestly, you people solve those token riddles lol. I can't even figure out where to start for some of them, and comparatively speaking, my mentals are probably easier to get where to go from. __________________ Goodbye and good riddance, military service (February 23, 2015 ~ February 22, 2017) Project Sekai 437 / Princess Connect! ReDive 265

05-10-2008, 09:34 PM	#250
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament but some of the token answers are OBVIOUS! sorry but I had to do that :S __________________ This section intentionally blank.

05-11-2008, 08:38 AM	#254
Fractal_Monkey FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 464	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament Oh hi again. I see a math-related round. Yay.

05-11-2008, 09:54 AM	#255
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament OMFG... Impossible game and world hardest game in 1 round...... -_- even rubix isn't this evil __________________ This section intentionally blank.

05-11-2008, 10:28 AM	#256
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament for round 3 mental 2.... if 2xy=14, you'll have to use imaginary numbers, which i assume is therefore incorrect? it would seem like 2xy should equal 12, not 14. although if that is the case, you will have 2 possible solutions to the mega-equation. so, regardless, it seems like something is wrong with mental 2... also, for mental 1... do you think you could write that out just SLIGHTLY more coherently? i get that the point of the solution is to figure out what to solve and where/when, but with it being over about 10 different lines, having multiple question marks in it, and a lack of flowing grammar... it's just retarded. edit: solved mental 3... pretty straightforward. also, while these 3 games are QUITE hard... you know everyone has played them before. also, i'd say to give some kind of credit even without completion. i know not everyone can finish IQ2 or WHG. __________________ RIP Last edited by Tasselfoot; 05-11-2008 at 10:37 AM..

05-11-2008, 10:44 AM	#257
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament yep tass i got that too for #2. #1 I solved, #3 too lazy to lol __________________ This section intentionally blank.

05-11-2008, 11:16 AM	#259
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament i believe i solved #1.... although i got a formula, not an answer.... #3 was simple. yea, something is wrong with #2 and needs to be fixed. also, if 2xy=12 and not 14, then there needs to be a qualifier on whether x or y is larger, since otherwise there will be 2 correct solutions. ps - meh. i really hate this game. good thing i'm good at the other 2. edit: also, i think the scoring for the games is off... 500 for IMP2, 1000-deaths for WHG, and then a max of 4000 for jelly blocks? most games give up to 1000 points per, nothing gives more, yet this one game gives 4000? not to mention, WHG should be completion for 1000, not assumed completion and then penalty for levels. I told rubix this when he used it... he wound up agreeing with me. WHG should be 30 points per level, with a 100 bonus for completion. Or something like that. Beating the game at all is equally as hard to do as maxing (1000 pointing) any of the previous 2 round games, if not harder. __________________ RIP Last edited by Tasselfoot; 05-11-2008 at 11:18 AM..

05-11-2008, 11:22 AM	#260
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Funmonkey54 and kjwkjw's un-FFRly Tournament actually, it doesn't matter, cause only us 2 are actually active... And I want a breakdown of my points? I don't see how I can be almost 600 points behind tass, when the only thing i didn't get better or equal to tass is the movie munchies thing... Next, #3 B is unsolvable because the width of the Xs aren't known. That means you have a quadratic equation with 2 variables, leading to infinite answers. And tass; #1 is a answer. It is an INTEGER answer too. __________________ This section intentionally blank.

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