TWG CLXXIII: A Man Standeth Straight Game Thread

[mellonxcollie]

xel

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votes at :00 are fine

votes at :01 are not

[dAnceguy117]

xel if youre town I dont trust you with orbs anyway lool

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stop posting

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votecount:
Gradiant (1)- Star
DBP (2)- Gradiant, blind
roundbox (1)- Freezin
Xel (4)- roundbox, DBP, mellon, dAnceguy

[the sun fan]

XelNya has been lynched. He was

Vanilla Town

Night 2 will last 24 hours ending at 10 PM Server, Thursday, October 19th.

Night 2 begins now.

0rbs are going out now.

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0rbs have been sent out.

[blindreper1179]

0rBs HavE bEEn SeNt 0uT

[FreezinIce]

14m3

[blindreper1179]

I wish I may, I wish I might, hope ta find a wolf and kill it tonight!

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In the night...

blindreper1179 has died. He was

Vanilla Town

kirkfan2255 has died. She was

Vanilla Town

Day 3 will last 48 hours ending at 10 PM Server Time October 21st.

Day 3 begins now.

[Gradiant]

freezin

[dAnceguy117]

hey freezin,

how do you feel about how your reads have been this game?

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ShadoWolfe is replacing FreezinIce effective immediately

[star-crossed]

Hi. I am not really having fun with this game, because whether I am at work, or I am at home doing my dishes, I feel that I am in a constant stress, over trying to figure out which two are the mafias. I think it takes too long, for people to be hanged and such. Even if I am wrong, I would rather just know that and move on, then be agonizing so much.

The combinations of people who can be the mafias, are these.

Charu, star-crossed, and Freezin (Shado)
Charu, star-crossed, and Gradiant
Charu, star-crossed, and raeko
Charu, Freezin (Shado), and Danceguy
Charu, Freezin (Shado), and Gradiant
Charu, Freezin (Shado), and raeko
Charu, Gradiant, and DaBackpack
Charu, Gradiant, and Freezin (Shado)
Charu, Gradiant, and raeko

I know that it cannot be the first 3, but for being complete, I decided to put them.

The main person I have been sussing this game, besides Charu, is Gradiant. I tried to talk to him about that earlier, and it mostly made me upset. He says that my feeling about him just boils down to me not believing him, and that is why it is "shit." It is true, that I do not believe him as much as everybody else, and that I think that he is the most likely person to be a mafia with Charu. There were a couple of weird things, with the private conversation that they had that he took a long time to mention and how he was thinking a lot about Charu early, but can only repeat the same exact words about it over and over. I felt like he was making a big deal of saying that he was trying to figure Charu out more than other people, but I felt that it was more talk than action or genuine thought. From his attitude, I really hope that he is a mafia, because if how he is being toward me is what he actually believes rather than a mafia tactic, I would be very perplexed and do not think, we should play another game together. I do not think it makes sense, for him to say he is feeling like "garbage" because of being wrong so much, and then coming at me in such a self-righteous way, not very long after that.

I have gone back and forth, so many times, about DaBackpack. First I was worried about him doing his lie about blindreper, because it may help him figure out who is the tracker as a mafia, from how people are reacting to all the orb drama. Because of what he was saying, I had accidentally said something, that made it very obvious I was not the tracker, for instance. Then, I felt that his lie was something he was really happy about coming up with by himself, and it did not seem like it was something that he was planning with Charu. And there was the past history, of him saying that he is a detective, when he is trying to get reactions about things. I was then feeling a bit confused, about how he was so mad at Xel being at work being used as an excuse for why Xel was being more quiet, when Xel has been getting hanged for that as town, many times in a row. Then, when Gradiant said he seered DaBackpack as a town, I was thinking DaBackpack was always a town, because I did not think Gradiant would be trying so hard to hang him ever since he did his lie. It did occur to me, that it would be very convenient for Gradiant to do that if they were both mafias, so that he could stop trying to hang DaBackpack, but because I did not feel his test was planned with Charu, and because Gradiant made so much of his game about DaBackpack, I did not think they would be mafias. Then, last night, Shado was asking me, what I thought about DaBackpack, and he brought up that it could be, that DaBackpack as mafia did not discuss his plan with Charu, and that the reason that Gradiant is so focused on DaBackpack in ways that are kind of weird, is that they are the mafias. That had not occurred to me before at all. I think that if DaBackpack was a mafia, that would have to be the case, because I was really believing him when he said that he hoped it was ok to make a lie like that, without consulting with anybody else. After that, I was looking back at what DaBackpack was saying on the second day, and he did not seem concerned about Gradiant sussing him at all, and seemed like he could be protecting him, by sussing roundbox and Xel more. And I also saw that DaBackpack said to Gradiant, that he did his lie so that people would think he was more town. Basically, I wish that DaBackpack would say more, because I feel like him being so quiet, could make it easier for him to not be slipping up with how he is acting. Freezin said to me, that in their private conversation he seemed like he was trying to figuring things out, but I am feeling like right now, I have no idea what he is actually thinking about anybody.

I have said it before, but I really am not believing that what Gradiant and raeko were talking about with the orbs, was fake. The timing of it and what they were saying to each other, just does not feel planned to me when I read it. When raeko explained, why she voted for Xel, it seemed more genuine to me, than the others. And I am taking into account, that roundbox is trusting her, from having talked to her every day. Freezin said that she may be willing to do no kill, if she was with Gradiant, but it does not make so much sense to me, considering the situation with roundbox.

I do not think Freezin and danceguy would be both mafias, because I do not believe they would not do a kill for no real reason, and I do not think they would try to kill Haku, when even I was feeling that he was not the tracker. I think that Freezin would have just said he was seering DaBackpack, since that is what he told everybody they should do. Also, I feel that danceguy is very invested in the game, when he could have been less involved, since he was considered likely to be town because of what Freezin said. He has seemed genuine to me, in how he talks about the game and how he talked about Freezin, even though we have talked more about other things, than the actual game.

For kind of a combination of the reasons that I am not believing in Freezin and danceguy or raeko and Gradiant, I do not think Freezin and raeko, have a reason to not do a kill or to be killing Haku. Especially since I think raeko knew that roundbox was the tracker at that point. They have not really talked, that I am aware of, which does not look as good for them, but it would also blow my mind a bit for me to be wrong about both of them not seeming like they make much sense with Charu.

I am worried, that the mafia team could be Gradiant, Freezin, and Charu. I had been feeling that Freezin and Charu, would not be both mafias, from how they were talking so much to each other. But I worry, that Freezin and Charu may be better in that way than I have ever seen mafias be, and that Freezin focused so much on Charu, to try to throw everybody off. I am believing this is more possible than many of the other cases, because they would have been hoping to get roundbox hanged by doing a no kill. Freezin explained to me that he felt he made a mistake, in considering roundbox as more likely a mafia than Gradiant, and not considering Gradiant as an option. But I still think he could have been protecting him, because they were both mafias. Freezin also suggested to me, that I should be blocking Gradiant with my orb, which I feel he may have done because he did not want Gradiant to have to claim seering somebody, because that narrows things down more. I also am not sure Freezin was being genuine, when he told me in private that I was the strongest townread he has had in a long time, when he had a very strong read on Haku in the last game, and he does not know me so well. I think he may have said it, because I was trusting him a lot, and he wanted me to feel good about that. And also, Freezin told me in private that he thought the mafia team was one of Gradiant and roundbox, and then one of Kirkfan and raeko. When he found out Kirkfan was a town, I think it was weird he did not mention sussing raeko, and I was wondering if he was trying to be really dramatic, in talking to Gradiant, so they would seem like they are not both mafias. I do not think that the mafia actually wants another mafia to get hanged today unless it would make them very obvious otherwise, since the orbs are more important, when there is only one mafia still here. So, the fact that they are arguing, may mean it is more likely to be a different group. It is too bad, that Freezin had to leave, because I feel that Shado cannot really answer for, the concerns I am having about Freezin.

I am going to be voting for Gradiant since that is who I am sussing the most still and what makes the most sense to me, with only Haku dying on the second day. The more I think about it, I do not think there is much reason for mafias to not kill anybody, since that gives the town more time to get lucky with a seer orb, like how blindreper did, and I do not think the mafias should have thought Haku was the tracker. But I will probably keep thinking about this game too much, even though I do not really want to.

[roundbox]

Please refer to my most recent postings in the general discord for this lynch. I strongly believe we should no lynch this phase. See the general chat for my reasoning.

[roundbox]

no lynch

[dAnceguy117]

no lynch after much deliberation I have decided that hanging someone is morally wrong

[ShadoWolfe]

No Lynch

That makes 3, idk if there's such a thing as "no lynch insta", but I wouldn't recommend anyone else vote it until closer to EoD

[star-crossed]

I will no lynch because roundbox explained it being a safe play and I think it will happen anyway. But you know how I feel.