College/University??

[fido123]

I think after that post if he tries to argue or brush off as us misunderstanding him or being shut-in losers we should honestly just stop responding because he's either so ****ing stupid and stubborn there's no way he's going to understand, or a troll without a doubt. Hopefully the latter.

[MrRubix]

Yeah, I agree.

[devonin]

Bachelor of Arts in History, take that math and comp sci majors!

Going to go back to school once i've paid my crushing student debt down a little, and get a Masters of Library and Information Science.

[bender5]

Originally Posted by ananana

I'm curious about how your opportunity was taken from you and why you didn't fight to get it back since you're such a hard worker.

When I was in high school my parents didn't believe I could do anything because I smoked pot, so they refused to allow me to attend any of the decent schools I got into. I was trying to attend Hofstra as a film major, but that never happened thanks to good old mom and pop telling me that the community college would be better for me.

At which point I decided to sell pot.

I started by selling little bags, but making sure my bags were not only the fattest, but of the highest quality. Once my reputation got widespread my demand far exceeded my supply, so I started setting up tons of small soldiers throughout my county to go out and do my grunt work, so that I could safely operate using my house as home base.

At 400-440, even 480 once when I really had to pay out the ass, per ounce at an average of no less than 8, no more than 32 oz. per day sold, there's an assload of money to be made you twat rubix.

If you want to know more you'll just have to come find me before I move to California next week, I'm 98% positive that TeRa is coming over today to chill, maybe you guys will finally believe me then.

Even though trolling is ****ing lame and pathetic and I don't know where you guys get the nerve to question my life, when I actually decide to share some detail because I'm a genuine person, rather than someone that isn't okay with who they really are, so they create a wild online persona.


If you really want to know how to make money in business, it's all about Customer Relations and keeping people thoroughly satisfied.

my point with saying I can do anything is saying that I'm HIGHLY adaptable. You don't NEED a college degree to learn something. I learn better just by watching someone do something than I do from sitting down and working hard. It's all relative to how your brain works. I'm not saying I'm better than everyone at everything, because I can't do ANYTHING perfect EVER. I just get everything done and get it done well, there are tons of things that due to personal injury I can't do, so I'd never get a job doing it, but that doesn't mean that if I dedicated my life to that task I couldn't do it.

[MrRubix]

That shouldn't hold you back from pursuing education. I wasn't exactly raised in the best of households -- neither of my parents went to college (and would routinely make it difficult for me to pursue education because they didn't believe in it) and I had to apply to college in secret. Education and hard work was my way of bettering my life.

If you want to mince semantics here, you don't *need* a college degree to acquire information. But it's stupid to deny that it would take you a lot, lot longer to get where you want to go. Most places won't even bother hiring you without a certain level of education or experience. People in college are studying their trades day-in and day-out in a high-speed, concentrated format -- at a quality and pace that is hard to match when you don't have the same resources to tap into outside of college. You can't just "watch someone do something" and then emulate it and act as if you've just learned how to do their job. That only works if you're looking at easy jobs or relatively unskilled people. But you can't expect to outperform experts who've honed their skills for years -- you can't "get any job."

[MrRubix]

As for your pot story -- what do those 400-480 figures correspond to? The price you paid or the price you sold at?

[bender5]

It's not holding me back from pursuing education, I studied a lot, privately of course, but I learned enough to make a living to support myself for multiple years, then to have the option to start fresh in college again to study and get a degree if I so choose.

I was held back at first, so I overcame by dedicating myself to something. Now with the 24/7 illegal commitment dropped I've got tons of free time in the countdown to moving out.

I can get any job, I don't because I don't have training, nor am I about to change my life path to get a new focus.

I'm not saying that right now I can walk into a corporate hq, without appointment or anything like that and willy-nilly get a job, but if I were to really apply myself to working for Corporate America, I could easily do it. Corporate America is probably the easiest place to work, aside from people who are the skilled specialists of their specific fields of technical study, which isn't part of Wall Street or Corporate Finance.

I know a little bit of everything, nothing too in depth in any particular trade aside from my own, but give me an hour tops with a leading professional in any field and I'll be able to perform amongst the top marginal percentile with little work history, I have to ability to think things like 8 steps ahead, so doing pretty much any job becomes inanely easy, unless it involves fine motor control my body renders physically impossible thanks to horrible spinal injury.

There's a difference between acting arrogant and being arrogant. I've got confidence, because people tell me all the time how much they love me as a person, people tell you all the time they love your achievements, so your ego is your favorite thing. It's really quite apparent in the way you associate on the internet. Even if it's not the way you're trying to come off.

I've met tons of people just like you, and let me tell you, they're never as successful as the people people (hopefully you know what I mean before I have to explain the awkward redundancy) like me. You're smart as hell, but your intelligence isn't deeply routed in what makes people happy, it's routed in what makes you happy.

edit: please don't make me disclose more than I have to. The profit margin was at least 25 per ounce at most like 150, depending on the relative level of quality to purchasing cost. I always paid about 260-360 per ounce depending on quality 360 being the most wild herb available on the market, that is 'til my Cali connect got busted

[MrRubix]

"But give me an hour tops with a leading professional in any field and I'll be able to perform amongst the top marginal percentile with little work history"

This is the sort of **** I have to just laugh at. It's horribly unrealistic. You are underestimating how much knowledge, skill, and experience goes into performing at the top percentiles. If you disagree, I'll give you one hour to go study financial derivatives/options, or any programming language of your choice. Come back here and I'll give you a really, really easy test in either, and we'll see what you know.

The way I act on the internet is completely different from how I am in person, btw. The "hyper-ego" thing is a troll tactic to stir up an occasional thread. I'm really not that arrogant in real life. But in the scope of this discussion, the things I am saying to you are not arrogant. I am saying you're making claims that aren't realistic. You can't really make claims about my happiness or where I derive my happiness because you don't know me in real life -- I am intelligent and make a successful living, yes, but I also have a great circle of friends with mutual respect and love, a loving girlfriend, etc. It's a very successful and happy life that I've worked decently hard for. Utility is a personal thing, which is why I've never claimed that you weren't a happy person. The question is how sustainable your utility is long-term, and if your goal is for a higher average utility or a higher utility variance at lower average.

[bender5]

You keep taking general statements about your ego as me trying to hone in on you in this thread. I point out people's flaws because I act the same way ALL THE TIME. I don't have a fake persona, that stuff is annoying as hell.

If you want to be an internet troll than fine, there will ALWAYS be tons of people better than me, but a top marginal percentile is pretty realistic when I'd say at least 90% of the people out there today that have jobs aren't qualified to fill their position, it's just what they do, so people don't question them and they don't question themselves.

Obviously any job with tons of technical training would need just that, but most jobs out there are doable just by being shown how to use a piece of software.

[ananana]

Originally Posted by bender5

When I was in high school my parents didn't believe I could do anything because I smoked pot, so they refused to allow me to attend any of the decent schools I got into. I was trying to attend Hofstra as a film major, but that never happened thanks to good old mom and pop telling me that the community college would be better for me.

For someone who can do anything he puts his mind to, you gave up on that way too easily. My god, Rubix is a shining example of how someone with nothing can do ANYTHING with effort. If I were in your shoes I would be investing a bunch of that money to my own education. There are so many things that you learn just in college that you can't learn anywhere else. I know Rubix said this before but it's very true.

Originally Posted by devonin

Bachelor of Arts in History, take that math and comp sci majors!

I was thinking about majoring in history. I know I'll at least minor in it. I'm in a bit of a crisis because I MUST declare a major now but still not certain of what I want to study!

[MrRubix]

Just being able to use software isn't going to get you any job you want. Many jobs not only require software, but a massive layer of understanding so that the software can be USED in a way that provides greater service. Software is just a tool to get stuff done.

Your "90%" claim is also arbitrary at best -- plenty of people are qualified to fill their positions. It's just that most positions don't necessarily generate a whole lot of money to begin with. For someone decently smart and good with people, outperforming at those kinds of positions is easier and realistic. But many of those jobs don't require a whole lot of college-degree leverage. Your claim earlier was that you could get ANY job and that a college degree wasn't necessary, at corporate-profit levels. This is simply false.

If you want to start making money that puts you ahead of the curve over the years, you either need to be privileged enough to come from a rich family (which most aren't), or so smart that your business is profitable and sustainable over the long haul (the former may be true for you but the latter is not), or you need to have an education that gives you the skills and experience necessary to take on greater responsibilities.

[bender5]

I gave up because I had no other choice at the time, I didn't have a way to make the money I make now, so I couldn't attempt to put myself through school at that point.

Nor was I about to be in debt 100K+ to the government when I have no guaranteed job security.

I had to really just cope with the fact that I wasn't going to a good school because I wasn't able to handle myself on my own, so what did I do? I took some responsibility and people who work their asses off like Rubix at a college they got scholarships for don't like the fact that in an unregulated market I can make more than in good old corrupt American commerce.

as far as the sustained part goes, I have a sustained job in California, I'm just not working there yet because I'm still a New Jersey resident. I'll probably be making more money there, just because of the sheer difference in product value and overhead cost.

[ananana]

Originally Posted by bender5

I gave up because I had no other choice at the time, I didn't have a way to make the money I make now, so I couldn't attempt to put myself through school at that point.

Nor was I about to be in debt 100K+ to the government when I have no guaranteed job security.

Looks like all you did was prove your parents right by becoming a drug dealer. Good job, son.

[bender5]

Yup, because selling medical marijuana is definitely the same as selling crack, yup.

It's no different than trading any other good or ware, it's just frowned upon in 37/50 states.

Which is why in California when I'm working behind a counter giving patients their medicine and I can feel good about supplying natural healing rather than these chemicals people pump their bodies full of I'll be truly happy

You'd be amazed at the incredible monetary drive behind marijuana, EVERYONE smokes, most of my customers in California are going to be people closer to my parent's age than mine.

[foilman8805]

Originally Posted by bender5

Half of getting a job is just knowing people, and I know far more people than you can imagine, and my reputation is very widespread.

who are you

also your reputation as... a pot seller? what a great foundation to build your rep on keep doin what u do

[MrRubix]

36/50, actually.

Working behind a counter selling marijuana isn't going to be massively lucrative, either. You need a license in Cali if you want to open your own dispensary, and the possession limit is something like 8 ounces and 18 plants.

But even so, under state law, medical marijuana providers must operate as non-profit collectives, meaning that you charge medical pot users only for reimbursement of costs.

If you want to seriously profit from marijuana, you have to go illegal -- but the massive ongoing raids in Cali lately and the recent busting of your dealer should show how sustainable that sort of profit is. When you consider the foregone labor opportunity cost and damage to credit/record and all other foregone opportunities, the risk just isn't worth it, and the profits inherent in going legal aren't all that great.

In other words, if you really want to live comfortably, invest in education.

[bender5]

you act like I don't know California law, I'm not about to ****ing outline my past and future for you guys when everything is still FEDERALLY illegal.

My reputation as being a genuine, good-hearted, well-liked person is what precedes me, I also am known for having the best pot, but that's on the side.

[foilman8805]

Originally Posted by bender5

My reputation as being a genuine, good-hearted, well-liked person is what precedes me, I also am known for having the best pot, but that's on the side.

those things are not going to get you a good job, sorry

[MrRubix]

Yes, everything is still federally illegal. Even within a legalized state framework -- even with a license (which won't protect you from federal crimes) -- the profits just aren't all that great.

And what do you mean "known for having the best pot" -- your dealer got busted. Your supply is gone. Unless you're growing it yourself, you can only claim to know where to find decent pot and know how to sell it -- and even then, you can't do a whole lot unless you want to get canned by the authorities by overstepping your boundaries.

10 years down the line, even if you made a massive illegal profit in year 1, the guy who went to college and worked his ass off will have more money.

[Superfreak04]

What's weird that this type of discussion was brought up yesterday in my sociology class. It's actually really easy to get a license to sell pot in California supposedly.