FLipSide FFR pad packs - Page 13

Professor Raine · 12-21-2007, 09:43 PM

Hmmm.... Flip, are you gonna add Boss Machine to the list or not?

@ CBR: My E-Mail is acting up again. I'll try tonight, okay?

CR_fLiP_fOaM · 12-22-2007, 12:46 AM

Boss machine needs couple things to be fix in order to get in. Boss Machine patterns is really bad. That's all I remember since I only played it once.

If you make double stepping patterns, I won't never gonna accept that file.
Idk if you guys understand when I say double stepping.
Mostly people that play on pad should understand that really well.

The only way for me to describe you guys how to make pad patterns is while making the step, you gotta think your playing on foot too, you can't just add notes randoms. Or ask Xiaounlimited, he knows how to make patterns even though his steps are pretty hard. If you know how to make good patterns then your steps will comes out really nice that's for sure. Most simfile artist know's how to make good step patterns and if your patterns are like double stepping, you will have to fix that or else I won't accept it.

Professor Raine · 12-22-2007, 01:46 AM

I've heard of double-stepping. Is that copy-paste-mirroresque stepping?

**gnr61** · 12-22-2007, 09:26 AM

Double stepping is steps that require you to step twice with the same foot or do a crossover. since those are not particularly favorable patterns in any kind of stream or difficult file (though they belong sometimes, like The Beginning), its best to avoid using them.

patterns like |left down right| or |up right left| are crossovers/doublestepping.

**Xiaounlimited** · 12-22-2007, 01:32 PM

URL isn't a double step unless you cheat UR with one foot for some absurd reason.

Crossovers =/= doublestepping - doublestepping is purely stepping twice with one foot because it's improperly patterned. Crossovers require you to turn sideways and step with both feet, and usually return; but in the end, you alternate feet, rather than cheating it with one.

Bloodrush expert on ITG2 is a good example of forced doublestepping because of the holds after the slowdown. Overusing it or even using it at all may not be a good idea.

**dore** · 12-22-2007, 04:07 PM

The easiest way to make sure you have no double steps in a stream pattern is to make sure all of the right arrows are one color (e.g. all red) and the left arrows all one color (e.g. all blue). Of course if you're intentionally creating crossovers that's a different story, but this works for when you don't want to have crossovers.

**gnr61** · 12-22-2007, 06:23 PM

oops lol i actually meant RUL (just woke up dayumn). but yeah thanks for clarifying the rest xD

ps I'd hardly define stepping twice with the same foot as cheating, you have to do it a lot if you, say, step with the wrong foot after a jump, ie. 46 jump then stepping up with the right foot would force you to double step the next right arrow.

**Coolboyrulez0** · 12-22-2007, 06:31 PM

OK Prof Rain,
fLiP: I believe the fixed patterns are alright, just check em out, if not tell me what to fix. ^^

CBR

CR_fLiP_fOaM · 12-22-2007, 08:33 PM

Crossover is fine, 180 turns or gallops are also ok. I just don't want double stepping.

Bloodrush patterns is awesome people that don't use the right turns for it will use double stepping for sure.

**Wyde** · 12-23-2007, 05:17 AM

Don't suppose my files have gotten round to being tested yet, have they? *Is slightly anxious for analysis*

And double stepping, I believe FELMO used it in its last slowdown before the super ultra jump stream using forced freezes as well. That and I think Healing Vision ~Angelic Mix~ (assuming you refuse to spin) required a LOT of double stepping, especially around the beginning and the final stream.

CR_fLiP_fOaM · 12-23-2007, 07:54 AM

You can have only at least one or two I don't really mind but if you seen Pro Raine Boss Machine step, You won't like it cuz a lot song double stepping and randoms. Ok this is an exception and I want you all to see why I didn't accept this file. Doesn't matter if the step looks like an index but if you make a patterns like this then I won't accept it.

Anyone who wants to see the file here.

http://files.filefront.com/Professor.../fileinfo.html

Oh yeah go here to see the spoiler video of the pack

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hp?songid=1915

**dore** · 12-23-2007, 11:17 AM

Here's my CDTitle... sorry I forgot about it

Also HVAM has the most amazing patterns ever if you take the time to learn them (the doubles chart especially, the singles chart is a conversion and it kinda loses its awesomeness).

**dore** · 12-23-2007, 01:06 PM

hehe I started stepping The Divine Suicide of K (widget file of mine), it's going to be a 14 probably

Professor Raine · 12-23-2007, 01:14 PM

>_>; Thanks for putting me up on the chopping block Flip. Besides, Boss Machine is a really hard song to step. If anyone's willing to fix it up, BE MY GUEST.

**dore** · 12-23-2007, 01:39 PM

The file itself is not bad (it would make a decent keyboard chart). It's just that the patterns are absolutely horrible for pad.

**Xiaounlimited** · 12-23-2007, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Professor Raine

Besides, Boss Machine is a really hard song to step.

No it's not.

CR_fLiP_fOaM · 12-23-2007, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaounlimited

No it's not.

Well it's not hard at all but I told you already the patterns is really bad. Dude I'm sure you can fix it. It's not hard to fix that.

Professor Raine · 12-23-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaounlimited

No it's not.

Well, it was for me. It felt like I was doing Blue Owl again. @_@

TD_boredom · 12-23-2007, 09:42 PM

Sent you my Sepia Flip, oh and tell me if i should change my cdtitle, cause it was on my main account imadethisfromboredom, so its a long cd title lol.

Hope I make it. That was my best file.

For the record, working on Euro Freak Full and Mother of God Full =P

CR_fLiP_fOaM · 12-23-2007, 10:14 PM

Keep it up you guys XD. No worries of making gfx. We got Pro. Raine, Me and Xiao. Just make sure you sent me your cd title or request one.

So gnr you want that rottel gfx for you and zero step? So I can add it on first page.

12-21-2007, 09:43 PM	#241
Professor Raine FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: D: Age: 33 Posts: 1,560	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs Hmmm.... Flip, are you gonna add Boss Machine to the list or not? @ CBR: My E-Mail is acting up again. I'll try tonight, okay? __________________ My simfilez ---- Dancing Rain : Dancing Rain 2

12-22-2007, 12:46 AM	#242
CR_fLiP_fOaM FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,479	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs Boss machine needs couple things to be fix in order to get in. Boss Machine patterns is really bad. That's all I remember since I only played it once. If you make double stepping patterns, I won't never gonna accept that file. Idk if you guys understand when I say double stepping. Mostly people that play on pad should understand that really well. The only way for me to describe you guys how to make pad patterns is while making the step, you gotta think your playing on foot too, you can't just add notes randoms. Or ask Xiaounlimited, he knows how to make patterns even though his steps are pretty hard. If you know how to make good patterns then your steps will comes out really nice that's for sure. Most simfile artist know's how to make good step patterns and if your patterns are like double stepping, you will have to fix that or else I won't accept it. __________________ "This better not be Snowbound again" Best AAA - Lawn Wake IV, Strangeprogram, Vertex Beta FC all Guru's Except - Death Piano, Revo, CP and the rest I haven't play it.

12-22-2007, 01:46 AM	#243
Professor Raine FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: D: Age: 33 Posts: 1,560	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs I've heard of double-stepping. Is that copy-paste-mirroresque stepping? __________________ My simfilez ---- Dancing Rain : Dancing Rain 2

12-22-2007, 09:26 AM	#244
gnr61 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: TOKYO STYLE SPEEDCORE, ohio Age: 33 Posts: 7,251	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs Double stepping is steps that require you to step twice with the same foot or do a crossover. since those are not particularly favorable patterns in any kind of stream or difficult file (though they belong sometimes, like The Beginning), its best to avoid using them. patterns like \|left down right\| or \|up right left\| are crossovers/doublestepping. __________________ squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

12-22-2007, 01:32 PM	#245
Xiaounlimited Eaguru Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Age: 32 Posts: 2,832	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs URL isn't a double step unless you cheat UR with one foot for some absurd reason. Crossovers =/= doublestepping - doublestepping is purely stepping twice with one foot because it's improperly patterned. Crossovers require you to turn sideways and step with both feet, and usually return; but in the end, you alternate feet, rather than cheating it with one. Bloodrush expert on ITG2 is a good example of forced doublestepping because of the holds after the slowdown. Overusing it or even using it at all may not be a good idea. __________________ Why would you put that in your signature? You've lost your signature rights for a month. (You'll get them back on March 10th, 2012.)

12-22-2007, 04:07 PM	#246
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs The easiest way to make sure you have no double steps in a stream pattern is to make sure all of the right arrows are one color (e.g. all red) and the left arrows all one color (e.g. all blue). Of course if you're intentionally creating crossovers that's a different story, but this works for when you don't want to have crossovers. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

12-22-2007, 06:23 PM	#247
gnr61 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: TOKYO STYLE SPEEDCORE, ohio Age: 33 Posts: 7,251	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs oops lol i actually meant RUL (just woke up dayumn). but yeah thanks for clarifying the rest xD ps I'd hardly define stepping twice with the same foot as cheating, you have to do it a lot if you, say, step with the wrong foot after a jump, ie. 46 jump then stepping up with the right foot would force you to double step the next right arrow. __________________ squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

12-22-2007, 06:31 PM	#248
Coolboyrulez0 VICES Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Age: 30 Posts: 10,032	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs OK Prof Rain, fLiP: I believe the fixed patterns are alright, just check em out, if not tell me what to fix. ^^ CBR

12-22-2007, 08:33 PM	#249
CR_fLiP_fOaM FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,479	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs Crossover is fine, 180 turns or gallops are also ok. I just don't want double stepping. Bloodrush patterns is awesome people that don't use the right turns for it will use double stepping for sure. __________________ "This better not be Snowbound again" Best AAA - Lawn Wake IV, Strangeprogram, Vertex Beta FC all Guru's Except - Death Piano, Revo, CP and the rest I haven't play it. Last edited by CR_fLiP_fOaM; 12-22-2007 at 08:36 PM..

12-23-2007, 05:17 AM	#250
Wyde FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: On a train Age: 34 Posts: 332	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs Don't suppose my files have gotten round to being tested yet, have they? Is slightly anxious for analysis And double stepping, I believe FELMO used it in its last slowdown before the super ultra jump stream using forced freezes as well. That and I think Healing Vision ~Angelic Mix~ (assuming you refuse to spin) required a LOT of double stepping, especially around the beginning and the final stream. __________________ >Pad files<

12-23-2007, 07:54 AM	#251
CR_fLiP_fOaM FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,479	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs You can have only at least one or two I don't really mind but if you seen Pro Raine Boss Machine step, You won't like it cuz a lot song double stepping and randoms. Ok this is an exception and I want you all to see why I didn't accept this file. Doesn't matter if the step looks like an index but if you make a patterns like this then I won't accept it. Anyone who wants to see the file here. http://files.filefront.com/Professor.../fileinfo.html Oh yeah go here to see the spoiler video of the pack http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...hp?songid=1915 __________________ "This better not be Snowbound again" Best AAA - Lawn Wake IV, Strangeprogram, Vertex Beta FC all Guru's Except - Death Piano, Revo, CP and the rest I haven't play it. Last edited by CR_fLiP_fOaM; 12-23-2007 at 10:35 AM..

12-23-2007, 11:17 AM	#252
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs Here's my CDTitle... sorry I forgot about it Also HVAM has the most amazing patterns ever if you take the time to learn them (the doubles chart especially, the singles chart is a conversion and it kinda loses its awesomeness). __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

12-23-2007, 01:06 PM	#253
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs hehe I started stepping The Divine Suicide of K (widget file of mine), it's going to be a 14 probably __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

12-23-2007, 01:14 PM	#254
Professor Raine FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: D: Age: 33 Posts: 1,560	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs >_>; Thanks for putting me up on the chopping block Flip. Besides, Boss Machine is a really hard song to step. If anyone's willing to fix it up, BE MY GUEST. __________________ My simfilez ---- Dancing Rain : Dancing Rain 2

12-23-2007, 01:39 PM	#255
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs The file itself is not bad (it would make a decent keyboard chart). It's just that the patterns are absolutely horrible for pad. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

12-23-2007, 09:42 PM	#259
TD_boredom FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Age: 31 Posts: 283	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs Sent you my Sepia Flip, oh and tell me if i should change my cdtitle, cause it was on my main account imadethisfromboredom, so its a long cd title lol. Hope I make it. That was my best file. For the record, working on Euro Freak Full and Mother of God Full =P __________________ FCs: 155 Best FC: Crowdpleaser AAAs: 22 Best AAA: Abtrusity Last edited by TD_boredom; 12-23-2007 at 09:46 PM..

12-23-2007, 10:14 PM	#260
CR_fLiP_fOaM FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,479	Re: FLipSide FFR pad packs Keep it up you guys XD. No worries of making gfx. We got Pro. Raine, Me and Xiao. Just make sure you sent me your cd title or request one. So gnr you want that rottel gfx for you and zero step? So I can add it on first page. __________________ "This better not be Snowbound again" Best AAA - Lawn Wake IV, Strangeprogram, Vertex Beta FC all Guru's Except - Death Piano, Revo, CP and the rest I haven't play it.

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