TWG 206: Betrayal at House on the Hill GAME THREAD

[Charu]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

All that said I could be talked into voting Charu but it's more because him getting on Freezin seems a little opportunistic to me

I did offer myself♡♡♡

[Lights]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

If you read all of the thread, do you have a list of players that you wouldn't want to vote / would? Do you have players you think are playing better then others?


Why would I save them if they aren't playing the game?


That makes sense, but in practice we've observed that until people have to make a stand and vote it's almost impossible to figure out intent.

If we don't kill (I think nokill is on, it could be off this game) then in the night wolves kill a town, and then what? No one had to make a hard stand, so we still don't have any info past that whoever died wasn't a wolf. It leads us no where. So then what, sleep again? Wolves kill another town and we're 2 down and oops, no one had to make a stand because "not enough info" and we're back on d0 with a horrible ratio of town vs wolves

Lynches yield info

Keep in mind that we win as a team: if someone does d0 but their team wins, they get the W too. We're not forcing someone to lose the game this quickly

Well, heres how i look at this-

if a wolf kills one of us, our voting odds only become better with time. we know they're only going to kill townies so the percentage of evil targets increases every round. if we're going to make an uninformed vote its better to do so when the odds are more favorable for us. The more nights that pass the more chances our Seer has to figure out who the wolves are.

I'm not trying to discourage lynching, i'm trying to discourage a zero-intel lynch at the worst possible time we could be lynching someone. your proposed strategy does not make sense.

I'm currently suspecting Lar and Charu as the two most probable evil-doers. If I'm not giving a convincing explaination on why this actually helps us in the next half hour, i'll be casting my vote for Charu.

[Lights]

look at me trying to sound smart and then putting a typo in my last post.

I'm still not convinced that a no-intel vote helps us and if I'm not given an explanation in the next half hour that demonstrates why the math do be in fact mathing on this, I'm placing my vote towards charu.

[Charu]

I truly get what you're getting at.

I was the same mindset AGES ago.

Please trust me when I say a low-poster / inactive is really bad for town. I've gone through SO MANY games where this happens and the wolves almost always make use of this to their advantage.

[MixMasterLar]

Charu don't make me vote over you offering yourself.

Originally Posted by Lights

Well, heres how i look at this-

if a wolf kills one of us, our voting odds only become better with time. we know they're only going to kill townies so the percentage of evil targets increases every round. if we're going to make an uninformed vote its better to do so when the odds are more favorable for us. The more nights that pass the more chances our Seer has to figure out who the wolves are.

I'm not trying to discourage lynching, i'm trying to discourage a zero-intel lynch at the worst possible time we could be lynching someone. your proposed strategy does not make sense.

I'm currently suspecting Lar and Charu as the two most probable evil-doers. If I'm not giving a convincing explaination on why this actually helps us in the next half hour, i'll be casting my vote for Charu.

Not really answering my question. You have limited time and supposedly read all the thread but your stances are suffice level "I don't agree with these two's game philosopher that got posted in the last half hour? You don't have any other thoughts on any other issues/players?

[Lights]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Charu don't make me vote over you offering yourself.




Not really answering my question. You have limited time and supposedly read all the thread but your stances are suffice level "I don't agree with these two's game philosopher that got posted in the last half hour? You don't have any other thoughts on any other issues/players?

No? Most of it was pretty mundane talk. You and Charu are, by far, the most suspicious just on the grounds that the two of you are standing fairly firm on your stance that this is beneficial and that we need to trust you.

I don't trust you 2 farther than I can throw you. You both have a lot of experience- but that doesnt mean you have the towns best interest at heart.

[Lights]

I may not be a veteran of this game, but it doesnt take a veteran to see that it is in the werewolves best interest to vote off a random townie night 0. less of us to take our yourselves.

[MixMasterLar]

Well Light, I'm willing to admit that you fully believe that voting d0 is bad and you're welcome to vote "sleep" if you don't want to do so, but I don't think it's optimal town play personally so I will not be following suit

I will however Unvote for now

If we do end up sleeping I expect you to prove how beneficial your plan was next phase, and show what additional info it gave us

[Charu]

You seriously considering a no vote?

[Lights]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Well Light, I'm willing to admit that you fully believe that voting d0 is bad and you're welcome to vote "sleep" if you don't want to do so, but I don't think it's optimal town play personally so I will not be following suit

I will however Unvote for now

If we do end up sleeping I expect you to prove how beneficial your plan was next phase, and show what additional info it gave us

Provided you don't kill me tonight, I will most certainly do my best to elucidate this for you.

And at least if we make an uninformed vote in the coming days, our odds of hitting a wolf only increase. I'm still not ready to drop suspicion on you two though. I'd like to hear from some other townies

[Arp!]

didn't expect this to get so spicy

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Charu

You seriously considering a no vote?

Not I, I always 100% cast a vote
But I ain't really the only one with a say here

[mellon_collie]

I don't think sleeping is a good idea I think we should kill one of the inactives, probably Freezi

I don't want to vote for someone who offers themself up on a platter as Charu has... seems icky

[Lights]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

I don't think sleeping is a good idea I think we should kill one of the inactives, probably Freezi

I don't want to vote for someone who offers themself up on a platter as Charu has... seems icky

What is your rationale for wanting to cast a vote here? you're trustworthy.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Lights

What is your rationale for wanting to cast a vote here? you're trustworthy.

I'm just as blessed by the Goddess Ayu as she is!

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Lights

What is your rationale for wanting to cast a vote here? you're trustworthy.

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[Charu]

Originally Posted by Charu

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[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Lights

What is your rationale for wanting to cast a vote here? you're trustworthy.

Pretty much the same as Lar and Charu have said tbh.

A roleflip in the morning will give us a bit of information, we will know the identity of one dead townie. But if we also yeet someone today we will also have their flip, as well as who was willing to vote for them. Some (or all) of those voters will still be alive, and we can talk to them and get more information about why they voted how they did.

It's basically the best way for us to get useful information that can bring us further in the game. Even if we lose a townie short term, in the long term it will hopefully pay off

There's also always the chance that we just luck out and hit a wolf

[MixMasterLar]

Arp talk to me what's your take on current standings?

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

There's also always the chance that we just luck out and hit a wolf

and we're not going to hit any wolves if we don't vote. That's our only power this game. there is less time than you might think to narrow the pool down. Once a few night phases have passed, if we haven't hit a wolf yet we're getting into pretty dicey territory