TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

[Hakulyte]

I see everyone went back to the best meta.

Not posting anything.

[danceflashrevo]

i've been catching up for the past few minutes sh

[danceflashrevo]

and i can honestly say I'm confused and will have to reread the past few pages after this shower i'm about to take.

haku you had two distinct cases on shado/aa which one did you want me to respond to point by point

dadcop what do you want me to explain exactly about my reads.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

haku you had two distinct cases on shado/aa which one did you want me to respond to point by point

At this point, just say what you think about this entire situation, anything that may be odd to you.

I don't want to look into these posts again. It gave me more trouble than anything.

[Hakulyte]

@MML, if you feel like doing this tomorrow, I'm up for it.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Then explain that to me and not like, half of this other stuff you're saying.


......Even if that's true, why not just offer to answer questions in real time or ramble to yourself and post whatever you freeform? As a town that's far easier and less scummy to go about it.

Probably just going to sleep now because activity dropped.

[danceflashrevo]

haku wait i'm typing up a post nooo

[Hakulyte]

I'm still around.

[danceflashrevo]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

At this point, just say what you think about this entire situation, anything that may be odd to you.

I don't want to look into these posts again. It gave me more trouble than anything.

Lmao fair enough. I'll just start pg. 124 and work my way up putting thoughts where they might be needed.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

It makes me want to believe there's at least a wolf in you{dadcop}/DFR and/or (1 or 0) in MML/ShadoWolfe.

This literally just says there's 2 wolves and whoever isn't you[haku].

Originally Posted by dadcop2

i mean you can be productive and still be a wolf. productivity isn't entirely alignment indicative

It's not the fact of being productive or not. It's the motive and intention of the productivity, and also the results.

Originally Posted by dadcop2

yeah thats true, but honestly how much of it is really content? i went back to the last couple pages after this day started and ctrl+f'd my name. apart from a couple things from mml mentioning how i was stuck on storn being ic all day(i wasn't i had literally like 2 posts about that), and how he didn't like me leaving the thread when nobody else posted anything and i had to go do shit, all posts that included me were statements along the lines of "dadcop is scum", or "dadcop should be lynched". uh yeah, real detailed stuff there man. great content keep it up.

The fear with you is we really don't have anything to go off of, that's what's scummy. There's nothing pro-town for you in my book. I've had you practically null up until now and I feel like other people have as well, or labelled you as scum.

Originally Posted by dadcop2

l o l there's a pretty serious double standard here. as soon as i defend myself, someone will call me out on being too defensive and therefore a wolf

Incorrect.

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

This game is dead because of you and others refusing to play it.

The post that sparked your outburst. Right here he is genuinely frustrated by the inactivity and lackluster attempt by us. Not even you specifically, just general everyone.

Originally Posted by dadcop2

refusing to play rofl
or maybe its cuz im not a NEET? i have shit to do. sorry if me not checking on this 24/7 bothers you

Throwing this out is completely uncalled for. It feels like a punch compared to the simple frustration that shado put out. This is overly defensive. Especially because it wasn't a direct attack on you.

You can be defensive without being too defensive. It's called just defending yourself and not retaliating in such an ad hominem manner.

Originally Posted by dadcop2

even so, as i pointed out before, i have no real §reasons§ to debunk. people's posts about me today can pretty much be boiled down to "DADCOP BAD !!"

dfr is looking weird. does that last reads list you posted (#2346) include a town claim? why? and shado is town? why?

Disregard what I said about what you meant by my reads list. I didn't catch this the first time. I think it's because you had quoted someone else and then asked me a question, mb.

1. Hakulyte - null
2. AragakiAyase shadowwolfe - town
6. danceflashrevo - town
7. MixMasterLar - null
10. dadcop2 - scum

The reads in question. Yeah I am claiming town. Because I am town. And I'd like to look at the active player list like this so I can use PoE to find out who the wolves are. This was my stance at the beginning of the phase. Shado is listed as town because AA and shado not really doing anything scummy imo. Haku dropped from town to null because I have to reevaluate people because this is final 5.

About the Haku/shado argument. I agree that it looks like he's backpedaling. I can't say that I really have a very strong opinion on it yet. I wanna see how it develops (on page 125 rn).

Originally Posted by dadcop2

dfr is on the table until he explains his last reads list, and you're on because i don't like your interactions with haku and i'm taking his side on that. you're really nitpicking his posts in a way i think is unnecessary. yeah, he gave you 5 reasons why he pushed you. are all 5 of them mutually exclusive? no

So because he's just being the aggressor you're scum reading him? Have you been scumreading MML all along? Why is he scum because he's going after haku? Nitpicking is kinda important at this point in the game.

Originally Posted by dadcop2

i'd view dfr as a bit of an oddball still but not necessarily quite as scummy

This is really confusing. Especially when you're gonna see how simply the reads were explained. Where does that put you for the phase if I'm not as scummy and an oddball?

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Why would I argue when what he's saying fits with what I've been trying to do?

At this point he just kinda looks caught.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm being confused about why there's no reevaluation going on.

There's... a lot of reevaluating happening. Specifically on you being a wolf at this rate lmao

Pg. 126 just kinda read to me... strangely. Haku seems kinda defeated definitely. The mood or emotion definitely changed.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yes, I didn't proofread myself over that.

Why did you have a need to proofread?

Originally Posted by dadcop2

and concerning haku, i changed my mind on him. some of the things shado pointed out aren't actually that nitpicky to me and legitimately show issues with his statements.

Why are you flipflopping on haku? Are you now reading shado town?

[danceflashrevo]

Hi haku how are you this evening/morning

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

Why did you have a need to proofread?

To make sure I don't write typos because we can't edit posts.

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

Hi haku how are you this evening/morning

I pretty much gave a reason to everyone to scum read me without really changing anything about the state of the game. Not my best day.

ShadoWolfe moved from town to even townier than MML for me.

Looks like you did something, gj to you.

[danceflashrevo]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

To make sure I don't write typos because we can't edit posts.

So not content based? More grammatically based?

Looks like you did something, gj to you.

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[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

At this point he just kinda looks caught.

Well, I went into unknown territory on a mylo to push about trying to find a way to make myself look town while explaining why I changed my mind about AA not being a wolf, but town because I thought it was a fun idea.

Now I have to explain my alignment based on this action.

I honestly have no idea what to do about this outside of telling you that this is really just as stupid as what it looks like.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

So not content based? More grammatically based

Yeah. If you're going to point out what ShadoWolfe pointed out about contradictions, I really have nothing else I can tell you outside of me not being attentive to my own posts.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Well, I went into unknown territory on a mylo to push about trying to find a way to make myself look town while explaining why I changed my mind about AA not being a wolf, but town because I thought it was a fun idea.

fmpov, this wasn't supposed to be alignment indicative because of how it doesn't really make sense as both alignment.

[Hakulyte]

I regret it and started being defeatist because I said that this would help others town read me and it's clearly not the case.

[danceflashrevo]

It reads very weird because you were going into the case trying to prove why he's scum when you were saying he's town. I don't... get it...

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

It reads very weird because you were going into the case trying to prove why he's scum when you were saying he's town. I don't... get it...

I had left overs reads about AA before ShadoWolfe replaced him and I wanted to talk about them.
I ended up town reading ShadoWolfe after rereading my own posts and realizing how much I don't make sense.
The stupid part is that I went on anyway and presented it to him because I wanted to see how he would react to it.
The awkwardness after is the result of this.

[danceflashrevo]

i see

[Hakulyte]

I don't really see anything else in your quotes about me that I don't agree on.

[danceflashrevo]

and you'd say you still have mml and shadow as your top town right?