TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by dadcop2

if you were to say i put in little effort i'd be fine with that. but you said i've put no effort in, which you know is a lie. remaining 2 wolves imo are you and dfr. dfr is on the table until he explains his last reads list, and you're on because i don't like your interactions with haku and i'm taking his side on that. you're really nitpicking his posts in a way i think is unnecessary. yeah, he gave you 5 reasons why he pushed you. are all 5 of them mutually exclusive? no

Please explain how you would feel about DFR if he explained his reads/hadn't made that last one yet, please.


Please explain what was the most grounded point that Haku made from your point of view, please.

[MixMasterLar]

Oh I forgot to put his name in that post watch him never get back to me.



Haku if Shado is scum then you really are doing everything in your power to make him look better for me. Jesus.

Haku and Dadcop2 trending down, Shado surprisingly trending up (sidenote: AA totally did have his vote on Pazzaz for while, though. Also I voted Pazzaz because of his interactions with me just fyi. Fucker tried calling me scum over two shitposts and couldn't back up that argument, blows my mind he was a vendor)

DFR is kind of just where I left him at to be honest. I really, really don't like how that "interaction" we had at start of the phase went, but I really did read him town before.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Translation: "Basically I knew it was bullshit and here's my way out please read me like I'm stupid it gets me to not be lynched"

Yup, that's the idea.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh bullshit. That was a push. A push that you immediately regretted.

Does that change anything?

[dadcop2]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

You'd be surprised. I mean I'll be fair and say it's not a steadfast rule....

AA could do it
Charu has done it to me a few times.
Xel and Xiz tend to be the higher Post Count Wolves when I was trying to prove Post Theory....

but besides examples here and there, everyone tends to drop off and be more inactive as wolf. It's just super easy to go under the radar with fewer post.


QUESTION DADCOP

Why did you not make this argument when AA and Freezin where talking about lynching inactives? Why did you wait this long?
If you did, please quote that if you have time (it's not EoD so I fully expect you to have time to find your post)




That's a horrible way to read through the thread. First, are you checking for shortened versions of your name? If I did mine I'd never show, for example, because everyone calls me MML or Lar

Second, it really seems like you are more worried about how people view you vesus trying to play the game.

QUESTION DADCOP2

Are you aware where everyone stands with one another, or only with how they feel about you?

no, i didn't make that argument before, and i didn't feel that i had to because there were other factors beyond activity that made me think those players were wolves.

what shortened names do i have? i checked dadcop, dad, and cop. what else do you want me to check? farmercrops2?

see my above argument about the 'too defensive' double standard

yes, i'm aware of how everyone stands with everyone right now and that i'm not the only main target but dfr is too

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Give them all out at once and nothing at all.

You have to understand that I was reactive posting and kept trying to give explanations behind my posts. I ended up accumulating reasons, but I didn't think ahead of time about them.

tl;dr: I didn't think about doing this.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yup, that's the idea.

You can't fucking be serious right now how am I even suppose to take you seriously let alone think this is from a town

fuck

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Does that change anything?

Yeah because if it is and you're saying it isn't that means you are backpeddling

Which you just fucking admitted to in the most wolfy way possible so yeah that's moot

[dadcop2]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Please explain how you would feel about DFR if he explained his reads/hadn't made that last one yet, please.


Please explain what was the most grounded point that Haku made from your point of view, please.

i'd view dfr as a bit of an oddball still but not necessarily quite as scummy

what matters to me is that haku recognized that he made a mistake, and yet shado keeps pushing him. of course you're going to get confused and convoluted responses out of anyone. that shouldn't be nitpicked as hard as shado is doing it. or are you talking about points he made outside of arguing with shado?

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by dadcop2

i'd view dfr as a bit of an oddball still but not necessarily quite as scummy

what matters to me is that haku recognized that he made a mistake, and yet shado keeps pushing him. of course you're going to get confused and convoluted responses out of anyone. that shouldn't be nitpicked as hard as shado is doing it. or are you talking about points he made outside of arguing with shado?

Both please

Also I feel like you're skipping over some of my questions

[dadcop2]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yup, that's the idea.

Does that change anything?

okay, THIS is kinda strange. expected him to argue here

[dadcop2]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Both please

Also I feel like you're skipping over some of my questions

i answered them in the order as i read them. "feeling" doesn't matter here. i'll get back to you on this after i take a shower brb

[Hakulyte]

Why would I argue when what he's saying fits with what I've been trying to do?

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by dadcop2

i answered them in the order as i read them. "feeling" doesn't matter here. i'll get back to you on this after i take a shower brb

Do you fucking read backwards? How dod you miss the two that came first and was headlined by a big ass font?

"Feel" here is a sarcastic quip that means you're not answering my questions and are cherry picking them.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Why would I argue when what he's saying fits with what I've been trying to do?

Because it looks really, really bad that you did it in the first place and it looks like you're just kind of giving up.

[MixMasterLar]

Haku even a town would want to argue that holy shit

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Haku even a town would want to argue that holy shit

Well, better get that hammer and insta me right here because I really wanted to investigate him while protecting myself knowing I suck at doing solid argumentation.

[MixMasterLar]

What are you even doing right now?

[MixMasterLar]

If you're town you're giving up in the most passive-agressive way I have ever seen

If you're wolf then you're trying to be read the same way I read Storn (too wolf to be wolf)

So yeah basically you're being the worst right now

[Hakulyte]

I'm being confused about why there's no reevaluation going on.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm being confused about why there's no reevaluation going on.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yup, that's the idea.

Does that change anything?

What do you want me to reevaluate right now?

No seriously

Fucking come at me and ask me specific questions if you want

Let's do this

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I was reacting testing you and trying to help you read me at same time. Honestly, you're making this more confusing than it should be.
I will always have some doubts about your alignment, but you look a lot better than the rest. I just couldn't think of a better way to use content and help you read me.

Okayy, you say you were trying to do both, but your progression reads a lot more like:

-->You post reasoning why you think I'm a wolf -
--> I do a short response on phone and call you out for reaching
--> You reread your push and realize it wouldn't stick
--> You try to backpedal by explaining your push as "I just wanted to give you an idea of how I've been seeing things." "I wanted to show you that I tried to do something." (#2390)
--> You admit "Rereading myself made me realize how they're not really as incriminating as I thought it would be." (#2427)
-->I respond by picking apart your points and ask you to respond
-->You realize I'm onto you and try to get out of it by claiming you knew your points were garbage and were just doing it for a reaction test. (#2444)

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

What's wrong with having 5 different reasons for one action?

Nothing, except for the progression of your reasoning changing as shown above.

Also, you say it was all five, but these two contradict each other:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Rereading myself made me realize how they're not really as incriminating as I thought it would be.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I knew I posted garbage in the first place

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

What do you want me to reevaluate right now?

No seriously

Fucking come at me and ask me specific questions if you want

Let's do this

I don't care about you, you're my strongest town and ShadoWolfe is basically Town #2.

This situation is retarded for me, I don't even have words to describe how tilted I am.

What I'm getting at is that this felt like an option for me.

Apparently, it's super bad, but I still took it.

Now what?