TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

one of the two of us is going to f3, and if freezin is a wolf, then he's gonna win if we both think he's town

this reminds me of 2 turbos ago when i solved to wolf team d1 and i had to guide town to victory despite everyone spitting in my direction and haku stabbing me in the back at the finish line.

honestly i really hope this time isnt as bad as that was and i can keep everyone focused and not have people fucking cfd or listen to whatever paranoid thoughts cross their mind.

[FreezinIce]

that said, i guess my work for tomorrow will be to dig into sanz / wv and see if theres a team dynamic i can expose.

[Gradiant]

Only thing I don't like about freezin is him saying blind's post (where he overreacts and complains that manti says he isn't allowed to change reads when manti was talking about his reads not evolving) was towny

[DaBackpack]

honestly I'm pretty good on wv for today's lynch, the hard part is going to be distinguishing between freezin and sanzath because I had both of them as town

[DaBackpack]

I have freezin as townier than sanzath, but not comfortably enough to make a judgment here

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by sanzath

and then I unvote because that was last minute bait

Originally Posted by sanzath

looks pure

blind

this feels important

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I heard this said about a lot of people this game. You and roundbox come to mind immediately but I'm sure there's others I missed

this could be read as a soft defense of blind

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

This is the big one that put me on my current read of blind, though I think there is another.

Nothing he says here is without merit, and it reads to me as frustrated town.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Shitty reads list because I'm up against the clock again:

Charu: was town thru most of my time spectating, but his transition from assured and some what confident to unsure and confused so rapidly kind of threw me off. Would appreciate someone with more Charu play xp weighing in on what this could possibly mean.

Sanz: your play so far hasn't really told me a whole lot, and I'm going to iso you after work but you seem to be coasting a bit? Null with potential to tend down pending a reread.

Roundbox: like what I've seen so far but I'd like more especially in regards to your progression on blind. Town lean

Gradiant: town. I've learned to accept that he plays farther back than I would expect some times but how pressure game is on point.

Dbp: Was strong town up til today on my spectating. I'm honestly on the lookout for possible coasting from what I've learned from our wolf game together. Still a town lean atm.

WV: nothing I've seen looks different from your other town games with the exception of the indecision near last eod that I'll chalk up to nerves and inexperience. Would like to see more to make me feel better about this read. Town lean.

Op: I honestly expected more. You seem to be playing pretty tenatively and its making it hard to read you. Null

Blind: already aired a lot of my thought's about him. Mostly a tone read that places him at null trending towards town at worst. If Manti flips wolf he goes to heavily town in my eyes. I don't think they could ever be partners (though I've been burned thinking that before with Manti and lar but that's where I'm at atm).

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Those are the 2 people who have dominated today and solving one solves the other.

But then the voice in my head says "what if they're both token"

Welp

^ RE: blind and manti

[DaBackpack]

my point being, to Gradiant, please don't clear freezin just yet

[DaBackpack]

that last quote in particular looks really bad for him, as it reads to me like a way to prevent a lynch on blind in the case that manti flips town

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I've been doing important research, and I think I've figured out wtf dbp was doing last night INCLUDING what his message to roundbox means.

Not only that I know what roundbox''s reply roughly signifies (though that was much easier to figure out)

This, here, is an important place, timewise

because Freezin, at this point in time, realizes that I am about to counterclaim blind in some form

which means that if he's a wolf, blind would have been told, by Freezin, to expect a counterclaim

what remains to be seen is if there's a change in behavior past this point from the beginning of the phase

[DaBackpack]

Here's my thought on Freezin

everything he has done before blind's claim is terrible

freezin really seemed to redeem himself after my "cryptic night" where he investigated what my words meant

[Gradiant]

that could be true. if so, lucky that he's familiar with the method you used to soft to rb.

And that previous quote regarding the voice saying both manti and blind and token, I agree. Looks like a strong read and then ends with something to make it noncommital so we wouldn't be expecting him to go after the other if one of them flipped wrong

[DaBackpack]

Last night, I was honestly debating between OPKiller and WV, because on D0, WV was really grilling on OPKiller

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Here's my thought on Freezin

everything he has done before blind's claim is terrible

freezin really seemed to redeem himself after my "cryptic night" where he investigated what my words meant

The posts surrounding your claim is what makes me think he's town, but that can be disregarded as possibility of freezin expecting counterclaim and well as we know now, being familiar with the material you used to soft. I'm probably giving him too much credit.

[DaBackpack]

What would be a home-run is if blind's behavior changed once I softed to round/Freezin about my role

[DaBackpack]

freezin, when you have a chance, can you go into more detail about how you figured out my soft?

you mentioned that you were going to post a really cool post, can you do that for me?

[DaBackpack]

or something similar to that

[DaBackpack]

where did you get this info from, what was your thought process, etc

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by sanzath

My biggest gripe is probably how you read 500 posts of the thread and got absolutely no data you could use, and have no opinions or anything (which is wolfy on its own imo, and saying it out loud doesn't make it less wolfy)

whereas I'm sitting on a giant fucking pile of notes

I think sanzath might be town