GunZ: The Duel

[lord_carbo]

I saw the level 83, he could butterfly. He wasn't good though.

[ToshX]

Ugh, I can't believe they wouldn't put in a hundredth level, I hate it when games do that.

But okay, sounds good.

@LC to get to level 83 and have much of a life whatsoever, you can't really be an excellent TDM player.

[FluorescentArmy]

Gonna go play now.

[gerbi7]

HAY GUYS I PLAYED GUNZ THIS MORNING

There was alot more people using rifles, is that happening to you too?

[ToshX]

A LOT of people use rifles, even at higher levels. You'll eventually see an increase in people using shotguns as you ascend in levels and go to higher level channals, including people that don't use K-Style. Many, many, MANY people use shotguns as at least a secondary weapon. My combonation until level 25 when I got an MG was a rifle and a shotgun. It's a good idea to get them even now(if you can afford it), you'll see an improvement in deathmatch immediately. The level 18 rifle is one of the best guns in the game so you should hold onto it for a while.

[ToshX]

The level 18 rifle is the most accurate gun in the game, and it does more damage per second than about 80% of the guns in this game. The level 35 and 45 MG do more, as do the 27+ dual SMGs, and higher level rifles barely. That's freakin' it, really. For a combination of accuracy and power, you want rifles. If you want pure damage and don't mind reloading often, get dual SMGs. If you want to last forever, get MGs. Seriously, you should take out at LEAST 5 people before having to reload with MGs. However, the lowest level MG is level 25, and the only others are level 35 and 45, which only increase your damage by 1 each level. If you want "the Berserker Boom" then get an Avenger. You'll only have 2 bullets per clip, and 10 bullets total, but you can literally one hit kill people with berserker. With the level 45 Avenger, you can do it from yards away, even. The bad thing is if you miss once, you've already wasted half of your ammo until reloading, or 10% of your overall total. Missing twice means you have to reload, and have probably taken considerable damage. Also, it means you've already wasted 20% of your gun.

[lord_carbo]

The level 18 rifle is the most accurate gun in the game, and it does more damage per second than about 80% of the guns in this game.

That may be true, but all of the higher level rifles after it have more DPS.

And I can't believe how severely wrong my math was, I thought the transition from the level 18 to the 26 rifle was the lowest DPS amount, it's actually the 34 to 42 rifles Either way, unless you're a bigger fan of Nicos than Maxwells (less weight, more damage and less shots), it's not worthwhile. Walcom Warriors are beasts though.

Also:

Level 27: Walcoms > Renards
Level 36: Walcoms < Renards
Level 45: Walcoms > Renards

It's important to note that Renards are more accurate, and at mid range Renards still take a good amount of aim. The least difference between them skillwise is the level 45 ones. That's when their DPS is has the greatest difference out of the three (Walcoms are about 231, Renards are 200), but Renards are fast and more accurate. Personally, I'm a Renard fan.

I like Avengers for DM, but zerker? No. If you want a slow hitting, beastly weapon for zerker, go for Breakers or revolvers. Revolvers are deadly as the beserker. 2 hits usually kills unless they had 60 or more AP and full HP. They drop like flies. Their DPS is really low, but the critical rate makes up for it.

Pistols have about the same critical rate and DPS, but if you're a frequent TDM player, you won't want to even waste the money. Their total damage is also (a lot) less, and the only benefit is they're faster and they get SLIGHTLY more damage in a clip (speed is imporant, if you were to fire a bullet that does 100 damage but the delay is 700, and the guy only needed 5 damage to die...)

[ToshX]

Originally Posted by lord_carbo

And I can't believe how severely wrong my math was, I thought the transition from the level 18 to the 26 rifle was the lowest DPS amount

IIRC, it's only something really low like 6 damage difference. I wouldn't consider it worth buying the next rifle, even if you have the bounty, because it's a very small improvement. The level 18 will last for quite a while.

[blargherness]

I started playing this game a while ago. I'm not really that good (I don't think I'll ever be a K-styler). Right now I'm level 17, and I would enjoy a fight with someone, whether they kick my ass or not.

PS: Gunz rules.

[ToshX]

You're not really expected to be able to K-Style for a while. In fact, many high levels in deathmatch don't even know how to butterfly, or what butterfly is. Seriously, most people over 70 and under 20 don't know how to K-Style, and the people that're about level 20 and do know are likely to be on their second account, and that second account is almost always female.

Really, it just looks good. It's hard to really learn when to use it over just shooting, because you'll end up just shooting a LOT, even as a hybrid.

[jhskulk]

ThoshX what is your sig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tasuke]

I hate the jerk with the daggers and the rifles, they know you over and shoot at you. That's lame. I do love smoke grenades though.

[gerbi7]

Smoke grenades are awesome. I have five and four clip smokes for 9 at once =P

[blargherness]

I love using them but don't find much help in them...flash bombs are really fun. I like to just stand on the 3rd floor of the mansion in DM while all other 15 players are dueling at the bottom, then I throw a bunch of flash bombs. It doesn't accomplish anything for yourself, but it's interesting to watch.

[ToshX]

Originally Posted by jhskulk

ThoshX what is your sig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My sig is awesome.

I'm coming back to this game again. I've been playing a bit, and now own every melee weapon, armor, revolver, pistol, and I'm only the level 25 MG away from owning every MG. Also, I have all of the highest level of every weapon.

As I said, I plan to buy everything, and two of those can be double-equipped.
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Alright, this will matter to some people that have the same goal as me, so I might as well say it. The amount of equipment you can have is limited, it's just very, very big. I figured this out the hard way, and ended up selling everything I didn't use, or anything that was overpowered(aka something that weighs more and does less damage than something else of the same type).

Also, I levelled to 54.

I can't go into a game on the free channal without someone going "omg a level 54", it's pretty cool. Also, I don't really find many people over my level anymore, except maybe one every few deathmatches. It's pretty awesome, but I want to keep going to at least 70. 40 felt like an amazing gain, and 50 was great. The thing to look forward to at level 60 is it's rare to even see level 60s. As for level 70(or higher), I've only ever seen one in my entire life.
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So, here's the Q&A session I had with Guntrix. PLEASE NOTE: While the facts are derived from Guntrix, I have finalized the words to my thoughts, and upon what the community should be allowed to know. Yes, you don't get to know all the small tidbits. That's because of either two things: it'll be better to surprise you in the end, or you're just going to flame it to hell. AKA, I'm acting as the PR here right now. So, without further do, here's the Q&A!


1) If the new version of gunz is for North America then why is everyone allowed to play?

Answer: The new version will be stated G-GunZ, Global GunZ. Yes, everyone IS allowed to connect to this new version. Despite that, for a number of users, they would possibly have to sacrifice some game performance. In this sense, they would probably be best sticking with the International Edition.

2) Who is the publisher of this new service?

Answer: The contract agreement is not yet completed, thus the publisher cannot be stated. However, upon the release of NA-GunZ, it will be a full version, with fully working functions.

3) When will the new service be released?

Answer: It's planned as an open beta in October or November, but depending on the development status, it could be delayed. The absolute fastest release date would be in October.

3a) What about the note upon Winter 2006?

Answer: The note upon Winter 2006 was about the QUEST mode, being a FULL version. Currently, quest mode has always been in a beta through all versions of GunZ in which it is available. Come Winter 2006, quest mode will have more maps to play through, for one feature.

4) Will MAIET be running any of the new version?

Answer: No, MAIET will not.

5) What will be provided within the "Full Version" of this new service?

Answer: Premium items, clan war mode, quest mode, being the common. Others will be new game modes such as Team Deathmatch Extreme and Duel modes. Another feature could be a ranking system for clans and, possibly, players. This depends on the publisher's capability in the end, however.

6) What payment options are available for premium items?

Answer: There is no definite answer at the current time, but most common methods will probably be accepted.

7) Will there be any new maps for gameplay and new maps for quest mode?

Answer: As answered previously, there will be a number of maps for quest mode, and the Stairway map that can be found within J-GunZ and K-GunZ will be added. There will also be some specific maps for Duel mode.

8) How strong will the hacker prevention system be?

Answer: This mostly depends on the publisher, and not on MAIET's accord. However, the security will be more than that for I-GunZ, and there's a possible response team, which could just basically be the GM team. But, in the end, it still depends on how much the publisher puts in.

9) Will there be anything done about distance lag and server lag?

Answer: Once the servers are moved to the US, the overall quality of service will be upgraded.

10) Will there be servers for locations like singapore/malaysia?

Answer: Depends. Most likely not if there is an IP block implemented (unlikely), but Guntrix has stated that he'll talk to Venister about talking to the publisher on this issue. In the end, it is their decision.

11) Will a list be created to reserve players names from International GunZ?

Answer: That depends on the publisher, again. But it is most likely not to happen.

12) What will happen to the International Edition if most of the population converts to the new version?

Answer: It will remain as it is.


As I stated, the facts come from Guntrix, and the words are finalized by me. However, remember, that MAIET will not be running G-GunZ at all. If they have to test a feature on it, they may have an administrative account, but as for the basis of management, they have nothing to do with it. Most options depend on if the publisher wishes for it to be in.

If anyone has any other questions, please, feel free to ask. But I will not tolerate anyone flaming this topic. Upon doing so, I will write your name down, and delete your post. Upon the next offense, then I will delete the post, and ban your username for a day. If, after a day, you come back and flame, then it'll be a 3 day ban, followed with a 1 week ban, and finishing with a permanent ban. I do NOT appreciate people ripping apart something I've taken the time to get the answers for so you DON'T have to keep guessing. If, at any time, you try to avoid the ban with a new user account to flame the topic more, then I will simply perm ban both accounts. If you come back with another account and flame it, I will get your IP banned from GZF.

So, start discussing ^^

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I levelled to 55.

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56 705000
57 727200
58 749800
59 772800
60 796200
61 820000
62 844200
63 868800
64 893800
65 919200
66 945000

Every game I get about 125,000. At level like 70, I'll get 10% per 100 kill berserker. Right now, I get 12% per 100 kill berserker. It doesn't seem that hard. Then again, there are no documented things past level 66.
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I levelled to 56.

What the hell, guys, you all just died when I decided to take a two week break :/

[gerbi7]

Laggers started to invade the advanced channel or whatever, and I got bored.

So now I'm playing America's Army, and there also seems to be alot less dumbasses in it too.

[ToshX]

As I posted, they're making Global GunZ soon, with the servers hosted in North America. We'll get rid of most of that lag.

[lord_carbo]

GunZ is client:client, it doesn't run through the server at all. That's why two people in England can get 10 ping to eachother, and two people in America can also get 10 ping to eachother, but the English guy and American will get 100 ping to eachother.

[ToshX]

It goes to the servers in Korea, it's just that the servers are good. I NEVER see 10 ping anymore, but when it first came out, yeah, Fallen and I could get under 10 ping and we lived an entire country away. Southern US to Canada with less than 10 ping.

But really, it IS going to improve the ping, I don't think it's entirely client:client.

[lord_carbo]

It is entirely client:client. The only thing that might possibly improve is the actual server lag (really annoying in DM, so + for you), and that's only determined by the actual suckiness of the servers, not where they are.