TWG III - The Backstabbing Buccaneers - End of Day 7 Victory - Page 12

11-14-2004, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

This Phantom Vote guy refuses to give good reasoning as to why he votes for me. I think he's looking a bit sketchy.

The in-game explanation for phantom vote is that your silence during a certain round of voting makes you look sketchy, thus reducing the amount of support an angry mob has to have in order to lynch you.

**Kilgamayan** · 11-14-2004, 09:44 PM

omfg

funeral for a friend

:'(

QreepyBORIS · 11-14-2004, 09:47 PM

She never was that good at dancing, anyhow....

**Tasselfoot** · 11-14-2004, 09:49 PM

aleco gets my vote for the time being.... everything last round was extremely odd.... its actually confusing the heck out of me, but through assumptions that i've made so far this game, i have only 2 people left with high suspicion. aleco is one of them. that more than any suspicion he has caused during the game is the reason for my vote.

GuidoHunter · 11-14-2004, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chardish

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Originally Posted by GuidoHunter

This Phantom Vote guy refuses to give good reasoning as to why he votes for me. I think he's looking a bit sketchy.

The in-game explanation for phantom vote is that your silence during a certain round of voting makes you look sketchy, thus reducing the amount of support an angry mob has to have in order to lynch you.

I understand. I'd like to explain my silence, though, by saying that the last week has been uber full by a huge test, girlfriend for five days, and going out of town. I'm back, though, and have more than enough time to get in on this game.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

The_Q · 11-14-2004, 10:09 PM

See, women are bad luck. So are priests...so how does the Pope get onto cruise boats?

By reasoning brought about during the round
when I was protected, I vote aleco

Q

Kefit · 11-14-2004, 11:59 PM

Wow.

I go to work for nine hours, come back, and am dead.

Have fun, everyone.

Oh, and one more thing: please, people, talk. Discuss theories. I had a bunch of them, but was too afraid to bring any of them to light. I regret this, especially since I can't discuss them at all anymore. This game is so incredibly boring when all people are doing is bandwagoning without giving well thought out reasons for their votes. I expect to see some good discussion throughout the remainder of this game to keep me from getting bored with my inability to participate.

zildjian133 · 11-15-2004, 09:11 AM

From the rest of the game I think I'm going to have to vote for Aleco he's the only person that doesn't seem to be on the humans side.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-15-2004, 09:24 AM

i just thought of something very interesting that i hadn't considered before.... not sure if it truely matters, but its enough to get me to switch my vote:

Q informed all of us that a wolf was killed by day2. i'm going to assume that means Eric (unless the wolves actually killed one of their own at night). Now, if aleco was also a wolf, he wouldn't have wasted his vote on sleepless on day1. at the time, Eric and Q were both tied at 4 votes, so by voting for sleepless.... he wasn't voting to save Eric. this leads me to be more sure that aleco is human than Qreepy

blahblah18 · 11-15-2004, 12:06 PM

Tass I think that may be right, but thats the point I was wondering about before.. is it realyl as simple as everyone that tried to get Q killed is a wolf, and that's that? Would they really all vote together day 1 so quickly?

aleco · 11-15-2004, 01:40 PM

I vote Qreepy for reasons I will say later, I'm kinda in a rush...

**Tasselfoot** · 11-15-2004, 01:51 PM

thats the point i've been wondering too blah.... we'll certainly find out once this game ends, won't we.

flypie743 · 11-15-2004, 01:54 PM

I demand to know who deleted my post that was a suggested storyline.

blahblah18 · 11-15-2004, 02:00 PM

well as per Kefit's instructions, I"m going to voice a suspicion I have if Qreepy isn't the end, that I hope everyone here takes heed of... Assuming that Eric was a wolf, and the other wolves want to try and save him without being obvious, the last likely candidate for a wolf would have to be none other then Tasselfoot... Ideally he would have loved to vote Q, get a smart guy off and save a wolf, but he knew by doing that would basicalyl automatically sign his own death warrant, since he's the first to always say that you shouldn't vote the smart people day 1 and that whyt take a risk, cost/benefit, and so on(for more readings at this look at his own defense for day 1 of game 2 to see that this is his modus operandi). So now on the assumption that he knows he can't reasonably come up with any way to vote for Q, he does the next best thing to try and save Eric... he creates a 3-way tie!!! His belief based on the rules then was that there's only going to be a random 1 in 3 chance now that Eric will be killed, that doesn't happen when Chardish has a runoff voting, and Tass flips out as Eric dies. To me, this sounds quite plausible, and is in fact more probable then Qreepy being a wolf from the evidence given... We haven't heard a peep about other wolves dying or much of anything on this board, and so based on these reasons, my vote goes to Tasselfoot

QreepyBORIS · 11-15-2004, 02:05 PM

I am considering both Tass and aleco (though the board reamins very, very open).

More details later. I rather like blah's reasoning, for the record.

The_Q · 11-15-2004, 02:34 PM

Tass's logic beats mine. I'm going to have to bandwagon for this one. Sorry, Qreepy.

Q

EDIT: I just read the logic on Tass. There isn't a snowball's chance in Hell of that being plausible.Tass would not cause a three way tie, that's much too risky. Not only would the other wolves disagree with such a notion (not all are as bright as Tass is, right Qreepy? *just kidding*), but the odds of a plan like that working is too low to even consider. Cost/benefit runs well, but it tends to fail when the benefit is much too small for the cost. In that case, take no action (unless that is the cost, which it isn't in this case).

Also, with all the AIM conversations I've had with Tass over the last week, I'm absolutely sure he wouldn't be hiding something from me. If he was acting funny, it'd be obvious.

QreepyBORIS · 11-15-2004, 03:06 PM

I'd be tempted to vote Tass on this one, but I still lean towards aleco.

Tass' voting in round one (* I think it was round one) was just...OFF. The tie thing? Bullshit.
But aleco keeps spewing crap, too. Massively.

And nobody, it looks like, provided evidence I was a wolf. O_o
You did say why other people might not be, but I still don't get how I am a wolf. Maybe you can convince me. :P

Tass's evidence was how aleco was not a wolf. And then my name sorta pops out in bold there. I don't...I don't know how that works. Do elaborate? -_-

The Aleco bolds my name. Given, he is "in a rush", but....

Then Q agrees that aleco is not a wolf, so he votes against me. Wait, is there something like...really obvious I am missing? Feel free to post it. It would make me feel a bit less bewildered. Then he continued to show how he thought Tass was a human (or non-wolf). But I still haven't seen reasons why I am a wolf. I am...confused to say the least, especially since it is damn hard for me to claim conspiracy, what with The Q definitely not being a wolf.

So, in short, care to elaborate a little?

**Tasselfoot** · 11-15-2004, 03:13 PM

my reasoning? i thought i explained it well above.... but, here goes again.

based off if previous voting and the assumption that Eric was indeed a wolf, i have grouped everyone in this game down into 4 groups. those that are 0 threat (aka, human)... those that are minimal threat... those that are a threat... and those that are the strongest threat. i have a small number of people in that last group, and you are one of them. so although i have no overwhelming evidence, i am forced to vote for one person in that group. aleco is (was, maybe now?) in that group too, but based off of the logic i have come up with, you are a more likely wolf than he is.

so THAT is why i voted for you. its a process of elimination. i would share my entire logic here in the forums, but that would be counter-productive in favor of the wolves.

11-15-2004, 03:17 PM

Here Be Chardish's Friendly Guide To Bandwagon Voting™, Y'arr.
QreepyBoris: Aleco, CypherToorima, Tasselfoot, The Q (4)
Tasselfoot: Blahblah (1)
Aleco: Zildjian (1)
GuidoHunter: Phantom vote (1)

Still to vote: Cenright, CStarFlare, GuidoHunter, Hydrojakep, Kilgamayan, QreepyBoris, Roopert, SleeplessDragn (8)

Insta-lynch @ 7 votes.
24 hours ends @ 11 PM EST.
36 hours ends @ 11 AM EST tomorrow.

QreepyBORIS · 11-15-2004, 04:49 PM

I meant the reasoning, not because you saw me as a threat. -_-.

Cause that's off the "No-Shit" scale, otherwise you wouldn't vote for me. :P

The lack of showing of ANY real reason prompts me to believe there is little more than gut feeling (and we know how voting by the gut works...).

I mean, I don't see my dangerousity. I offered to have myself seered. And a night has passed since then. So either the seer has not looked at me, is dead, or has looked at me and decided to keep quiet. They can look at me if they choose; I encourage it. I don't have anything to hide. Feel free to AIM me (I'm always on, to some extent, or my net is out) if you feel a need to discuss something (much appreciated).

11-14-2004, 09:47 PM	#223
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	She never was that good at dancing, anyhow.... __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

11-14-2004, 09:49 PM	#224
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	aleco gets my vote for the time being.... everything last round was extremely odd.... its actually confusing the heck out of me, but through assumptions that i've made so far this game, i have only 2 people left with high suspicion. aleco is one of them. that more than any suspicion he has caused during the game is the reason for my vote. __________________ RIP

11-15-2004, 09:11 AM	#228
zildjian133 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: LOMG LOCATION@HERE Posts: 1,138	From the rest of the game I think I'm going to have to vote for Aleco he's the only person that doesn't seem to be on the humans side. __________________

11-15-2004, 09:24 AM	#229
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	i just thought of something very interesting that i hadn't considered before.... not sure if it truely matters, but its enough to get me to switch my vote: Q informed all of us that a wolf was killed by day2. i'm going to assume that means Eric (unless the wolves actually killed one of their own at night). Now, if aleco was also a wolf, he wouldn't have wasted his vote on sleepless on day1. at the time, Eric and Q were both tied at 4 votes, so by voting for sleepless.... he wasn't voting to save Eric. this leads me to be more sure that aleco is human than Qreepy __________________ RIP

11-15-2004, 12:06 PM	#230
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	Tass I think that may be right, but thats the point I was wondering about before.. is it realyl as simple as everyone that tried to get Q killed is a wolf, and that's that? Would they really all vote together day 1 so quickly? __________________ but for now... postCount++

11-14-2004, 10:09 PM	#226
The_Q FFR Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Age: 34 Posts: 4,391	See, women are bad luck. So are priests...so how does the Pope get onto cruise boats? By reasoning brought about during the round when I was protected, I vote aleco Q

11-14-2004, 11:59 PM	#227
Kefit FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,517	Wow. I go to work for nine hours, come back, and am dead. Have fun, everyone. Oh, and one more thing: please, people, talk. Discuss theories. I had a bunch of them, but was too afraid to bring any of them to light. I regret this, especially since I can't discuss them at all anymore. This game is so incredibly boring when all people are doing is bandwagoning without giving well thought out reasons for their votes. I expect to see some good discussion throughout the remainder of this game to keep me from getting bored with my inability to participate.

11-15-2004, 01:40 PM	#231
aleco FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I am where I am Posts: 1,054	I vote Qreepy for reasons I will say later, I'm kinda in a rush... __________________ I still exist...

11-15-2004, 01:51 PM	#232
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	thats the point i've been wondering too blah.... we'll certainly find out once this game ends, won't we. __________________ RIP

11-15-2004, 01:54 PM	#233
flypie743 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: fairyland Posts: 3,210	I demand to know who deleted my post that was a suggested storyline. __________________ IF YOU ARE THE BOMB YOU WILL CLICK THIS and if you dont, you suck.

11-15-2004, 02:00 PM	#234
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	well as per Kefit's instructions, I"m going to voice a suspicion I have if Qreepy isn't the end, that I hope everyone here takes heed of... Assuming that Eric was a wolf, and the other wolves want to try and save him without being obvious, the last likely candidate for a wolf would have to be none other then Tasselfoot... Ideally he would have loved to vote Q, get a smart guy off and save a wolf, but he knew by doing that would basicalyl automatically sign his own death warrant, since he's the first to always say that you shouldn't vote the smart people day 1 and that whyt take a risk, cost/benefit, and so on(for more readings at this look at his own defense for day 1 of game 2 to see that this is his modus operandi). So now on the assumption that he knows he can't reasonably come up with any way to vote for Q, he does the next best thing to try and save Eric... he creates a 3-way tie!!! His belief based on the rules then was that there's only going to be a random 1 in 3 chance now that Eric will be killed, that doesn't happen when Chardish has a runoff voting, and Tass flips out as Eric dies. To me, this sounds quite plausible, and is in fact more probable then Qreepy being a wolf from the evidence given... We haven't heard a peep about other wolves dying or much of anything on this board, and so based on these reasons, my vote goes to Tasselfoot

11-15-2004, 02:05 PM	#235
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	I am considering both Tass and aleco (though the board reamins very, very open). More details later. I rather like blah's reasoning, for the record. __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

11-15-2004, 02:34 PM	#236
The_Q FFR Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Age: 34 Posts: 4,391	Tass's logic beats mine. I'm going to have to bandwagon for this one. Sorry, Qreepy. Q EDIT: I just read the logic on Tass. There isn't a snowball's chance in Hell of that being plausible.Tass would not cause a three way tie, that's much too risky. Not only would the other wolves disagree with such a notion (not all are as bright as Tass is, right Qreepy? just kidding), but the odds of a plan like that working is too low to even consider. Cost/benefit runs well, but it tends to fail when the benefit is much too small for the cost. In that case, take no action (unless that is the cost, which it isn't in this case). Also, with all the AIM conversations I've had with Tass over the last week, I'm absolutely sure he wouldn't be hiding something from me. If he was acting funny, it'd be obvious.

11-15-2004, 03:06 PM	#237
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	I'd be tempted to vote Tass on this one, but I still lean towards aleco. Tass' voting in round one (* I think it was round one) was just...OFF. The tie thing? Bullshit. But aleco keeps spewing crap, too. Massively. And nobody, it looks like, provided evidence I was a wolf. O_o You did say why other people might not be, but I still don't get how I am a wolf. Maybe you can convince me. :P Tass's evidence was how aleco was not a wolf. And then my name sorta pops out in bold there. I don't...I don't know how that works. Do elaborate? -_- The Aleco bolds my name. Given, he is "in a rush", but.... Then Q agrees that aleco is not a wolf, so he votes against me. Wait, is there something like...really obvious I am missing? Feel free to post it. It would make me feel a bit less bewildered. Then he continued to show how he thought Tass was a human (or non-wolf). But I still haven't seen reasons why I am a wolf. I am...confused to say the least, especially since it is damn hard for me to claim conspiracy, what with The Q definitely not being a wolf. So, in short, care to elaborate a little? __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

11-15-2004, 03:13 PM	#238
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	my reasoning? i thought i explained it well above.... but, here goes again. based off if previous voting and the assumption that Eric was indeed a wolf, i have grouped everyone in this game down into 4 groups. those that are 0 threat (aka, human)... those that are minimal threat... those that are a threat... and those that are the strongest threat. i have a small number of people in that last group, and you are one of them. so although i have no overwhelming evidence, i am forced to vote for one person in that group. aleco is (was, maybe now?) in that group too, but based off of the logic i have come up with, you are a more likely wolf than he is. so THAT is why i voted for you. its a process of elimination. i would share my entire logic here in the forums, but that would be counter-productive in favor of the wolves. __________________ RIP

11-15-2004, 03:17 PM	#239
User6773 Guest Posts: n/a	Here Be Chardish's Friendly Guide To Bandwagon Voting™, Y'arr. QreepyBoris: Aleco, CypherToorima, Tasselfoot, The Q (4) Tasselfoot: Blahblah (1) Aleco: Zildjian (1) GuidoHunter: Phantom vote (1) Still to vote: Cenright, CStarFlare, GuidoHunter, Hydrojakep, Kilgamayan, QreepyBoris, Roopert, SleeplessDragn (8) Insta-lynch @ 7 votes. 24 hours ends @ 11 PM EST. 36 hours ends @ 11 AM EST tomorrow.

11-15-2004, 04:49 PM	#240
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	I meant the reasoning, not because you saw me as a threat. -_-. Cause that's off the "No-Shit" scale, otherwise you wouldn't vote for me. :P The lack of showing of ANY real reason prompts me to believe there is little more than gut feeling (and we know how voting by the gut works...). I mean, I don't see my dangerousity. I offered to have myself seered. And a night has passed since then. So either the seer has not looked at me, is dead, or has looked at me and decided to keep quiet. They can look at me if they choose; I encourage it. I don't have anything to hide. Feel free to AIM me (I'm always on, to some extent, or my net is out) if you feel a need to discuss something (much appreciated). __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

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