TWG XXXVI

[CypherToorima]

Originally Posted by JurseyRider734

I don't know when i'm going to be home tonight. I don't have any time whatsoever to type out a post, so i'll put my vote on chardish.

Sertman, i'm still suspicious of. DBP is acting like a ****ing idiot.

seems like the easy way out, don't you think?

[talisman]

Originally Posted by dbp

So, I went to TPS and told him 'I killed hans' to which he replied 'We don't know you, and never talk to me again unless you 'seer' something important'

So... this is pretty crucial info, yes? Like, either dbp is telling the truth and tps is a wolf, or dbp is lying and is a wolf. Personally, I think he's telling the truth, and I propose lynching tps today, and then waiting to see if dbp can produce the convos. He told me last night he was at a friend's house or something, but I'm going to assume that by the next game day he'll be back home. And if he doesn't survive the night, well then that pretty much proves he was telling the truth.

Evidence against chardish is also pretty strong, given mead's apparent acceptance of dbp's fake, but not nearly as strong as against tps.

So... tps.

[ivaluebet]

Originally Posted by dbp
So, I went to TPS and told him 'I killed hans' to which he replied 'We don't know you, and never talk to me again unless you 'seer' something important'


This made me lol irl. Why would anybody ever say anything like this. It has to be completely fake or taken way out of context.

[ivaluebet]

I think what is happening here is two humans (dbp and tps) both trying to trap eachother.

[sertman]

Originally Posted by JurseyRider734

I don't know when i'm going to be home tonight. I don't have any time whatsoever to type out a post, so i'll put my vote on chardish.

Sertman, i'm still suspicious of. DBP is acting like a ****ing idiot.

I still think that you're ultra-defensive this game, but your latest posts have been a bit more human. I've still got my eye on you, though, and you're still really high up on my suspicions list.

However, there are a bunch of people who I may switch my vote to.

Chardish, because of previously stated arguments against him.
DBP, because from my previous experiences with Tps, he isn't the one to slip up and say something stupid like that, and he ESPECIALLY wouldn't say "never talk to me again unless you 'seer' something important." That's so unbelievably out of character for him that I think that DBP is making that up.
TPS, because if he really said that then he's pretty much a wolf. I'd need to see more evidence though.

[Tps222]

whoa whoa whoa

Wtf is this.

Never happened DBP. Tass can back me up. I told him that you IM'd me claiming to be the TS or something, and asked him if I should play along, he said go ahead.

Ivalue is right, why the **** would I say that. Also, look at the situation. Who is one of the easiest humans to take down if you know you are ****ed, it's me. Mead's obviously just setting me up to buy a day or more for the wolves. Stop being tools and look at how obvious that is. I have been following the game, and have talked to tass a few times making sure I was up to date. Just because I didn't post means nothing. I had been meaning to. It's purely coicidental that I was being called out when I posted. That was the first free time I had, and I was talking to Sert. I had been getting called out all game anyways, so it's no different now.

Getting rid of Chardish is fine by me, but I really think DBP is a wolf. I'll switch over to him for now though.

DBP, bring up this incriminating conversation of yours before you vote. This bull**** propeganda "I promise it's real" **** is stupid.

Now, I have to work until 9, so I will miss the end of the day. I hope that Tass will come and vouch for me on the DBP situation, and I hope you all realize the stupidity of voting me on hearsay and the fact that I'm innactive. At least have DBP post a log.

[talisman]

switch to iggy until this debate is resolved. will need tass' input.

[ivaluebet]

chardish I have to unfortunatly leave for work so will not get the chance to figure this out.

[sertman]

BTW, Tps was talking to me yesterday when he was online.

Switching to chardish until this thing gets figured out. Talisman, why the placeholder on iggy instead of chardish?

[talisman]

because I suspect iggy more, at this point. if insta is necessary, I'll switch, of course.

[Shashakiro]

DBP until he posts those convos. He also "tried" to send them to me over AIM, but it didn't work for inexplicable reasons.

Could be a coincidence, but I've got to see it to believe it.

[Tasselfoot]

I'm pretty sure I have them in my logs.... day ends in 30 minutes though, and I'm quite content with lynching Chardish and sorting the TPS/DBP thing out tomorrow.

To back up DBP... I do recall that line (I believe).
To back up TPS... he did come to me right after DBP IMed him and asked me if he should play along.

Basically... I don't trust either, but I know when DBP approached me about this, I told him that he shouldn't trust a word that Mead tells him.... as not only is Mead a little ****er, he is a wolf little ****er.

[Tasselfoot]

So, yea. Please insta Chardish... since not everyone is going to vote.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

DBP TWG (10:14:27 PM): Dude, did you get my PM?
Fhqwhgads703 (10:14:32 PM): Yep
DBP TWG (10:14:35 PM): Alright.
DBP TWG (10:14:39 PM): Well, who should I check tonight?
Fhqwhgads703 (10:14:49 PM): Ok, I'm going to die soon.
DBP TWG (10:14:53 PM): I know.
Fhqwhgads703 (10:14:59 PM): I want to tell you a wolf so you can contact them
Fhqwhgads703 (10:15:02 PM): None of them are on
DBP TWG (10:15:04 PM): But, at least I can get a head start on what the wolves want.
DBP TWG (10:15:18 PM): Well, if you want to tell me fine.
DBP TWG (10:15:24 PM): But all I'm asking is for a pick from you/the others.
Fhqwhgads703 (10:15:25 PM): It's a leap of faith, but I am pretty sure you are the seer
DBP TWG (10:17:05 PM): you need to tell me who to seer incase you get instad and we can't talk anymore.
Fhqwhgads703 (10:17:13 PM): Ok
Fhqwhgads703 (10:17:21 PM): Seer Shash
Fhqwhgads703 (10:17:25 PM): I think he's blue

I asked if that was what all the wolves wanted, and he said he didn't
talk to them at all, and that none of them were online.
(people offline at the time: fish flypie wilkin tps hansky cyphertoorima mattc16)

Fhqwhgads703 (10:19:07 PM): Ok
Fhqwhgads703 (10:19:30 PM): When I die, and only then, contact TPS

He told me to ritual stoic, and it never happened, thus him not trusting me.

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Fhqwhgads703 signed on at 4:22:30 PM.
Fhqwhgads703 signed off at 5:33:29 PM.
Fhqwhgads703 signed on at 5:15:55 AM.
Fhqwhgads703 signed off at 6:02:26 AM.
Fhqwhgads703 signed on at 2:26:38 PM.
DBP TWG (2:58:42 PM): Hey
DBP TWG (2:58:44 PM): Are you there?
Fhqwhgads703 (2:58:50 PM): Yes

Auto response from DBP TWG (2:58:50 PM): I'll be out most of the day. Leave me messages as you see fit.

DBP TWG (2:59:02 PM): Alright, well, as you can obviously see, I killed hans instead.
DBP TWG (2:59:05 PM): But it was for good reason.
Fhqwhgads703 (2:59:08 PM): Really
Fhqwhgads703 (2:59:14 PM): What reason was that?
DBP TWG (2:59:16 PM): I'll show you, one second.
Fhqwhgads703 (2:59:42 PM): It had better be fantastic
DBP TWG (2:59:43 PM): Alright, I suppose I didn't save it, but when I was talking to him last night.
DBP TWG (2:59:49 PM): It was around.. 10:40 my time.
Fhqwhgads703 (3:00:00 PM): Well, isn't that convenient
DBP TWG (3:00:10 PM): Eh?
DBP TWG (3:00:16 PM): (same as what fojar is posting)
DBP TWG (3:00:36 PM): We were talking about the bookie thing, and how he got killed, but tass is still going to be guarded.
DBP TWG (3:00:45 PM): And I was like 'Well, I'm going to assume tass will be guarded'
DBP TWG (3:00:56 PM): And he said something like 'I'll make sure he is'
DBP TWG (3:01:10 PM): I don't remember exactly what he said, but it was worded like he was either the guard, or was in with the guard.
DBP TWG (3:01:13 PM): One of the guards(
DBP TWG (3:01:15 PM): *
Fhqwhgads703 (3:01:28 PM): Well, the problem is now I can't trust you
DBP TWG (3:01:37 PM): I was trying to talk to tps last night before I did it, but he wouldn't respond.
Fhqwhgads703 (3:01:40 PM): If you had sent a pm ahead or something, that would be one thing
DBP TWG (3:01:44 PM): You can see if he got the IMs and verify it that way
DBP TWG (3:02:01 PM): But, he's signed off and I dont' know if he has logs or not as I've not actuall talked to him yet.
DBP TWG (3:02:06 PM): Well, except before the game.
DBP TWG (3:02:24 PM): Alright, well, you don't have to trust me, but I'll just keep going until I find another red, then come to you.
DBP TWG (3:02:41 PM): I mean, worst case scenario.
DBP TWG (3:02:52 PM): Ps, is there some program that will log for me that I can use?
Fhqwhgads703 (3:03:02 PM): I dunno
DBP TWG (3:03:03 PM): (I usually just copy the convos to notepad)
DBP TWG (3:03:04 PM): ****.
DBP TWG (3:03:17 PM): So, what do you want me to do?
DBP TWG (3:03:22 PM): Just keep seering people?
Fhqwhgads703 (3:03:28 PM): I guess
Fhqwhgads703 (3:03:40 PM): I just don't think you are the seer
DBP TWG (3:03:44 PM): Well.
Fhqwhgads703 (3:03:51 PM): And the other wolves agree
DBP TWG (3:03:51 PM): Put it this way, even if you don't think so, Hans is dead.
DBP TWG (3:03:59 PM): And, stoic is my brother, I could tell that he was green.
Fhqwhgads703 (3:04:01 PM): As far as we are concerned, you don't know us
Fhqwhgads703 (3:04:20 PM): Don't talk to me again unless you "seer" something interesting
DBP TWG (3:04:25 PM): ..
DBP TWG (3:04:26 PM): Why not?
Fhqwhgads703 (3:04:41 PM): Because you aren't the tainted seer
DBP TWG (3:04:44 PM): ..
DBP TWG (3:04:48 PM): Did someone else tell you they were?
Fhqwhgads703 (3:04:58 PM): Like six people
DBP TWG (3:05:03 PM): Well, obviously.
DBP TWG (3:05:41 PM): Look.
DBP TWG (3:05:53 PM): If I wasn't the tainted seer, wouldn't I have taken tha convo we had and spread it like wildfire?
DBP TWG (3:05:56 PM): The one where you told me tps?
Fhqwhgads703 (3:06:12 PM): A mistake, one I will likely pay for
Fhqwhgads703 (3:06:23 PM): You probably wanted to pump me for more names
DBP TWG (3:06:34 PM): Either that, or that I'm the tainted seer.
DBP TWG (3:06:44 PM): I wish I had the conversation with hans.
Fhqwhgads703 (3:06:49 PM): Possibly
Fhqwhgads703 (3:06:57 PM): but you through away all hope of me trusting you
DBP TWG (3:06:59 PM): He made it quite obvious he was a guard.
Fhqwhgads703 (3:07:01 PM): threw*
DBP TWG (3:07:15 PM): Alright, well, I'll talk to tps.
DBP TWG (3:07:25 PM): And, if he doesn't trust me, I'll work alone.
Fhqwhgads703 (3:07:34 PM): He's more adamant about cutting you out then I am
Fhqwhgads703 (3:07:43 PM): Best of luck buddy
DBP TWG (3:07:45 PM): Thanks.
DBP TWG (3:08:15 PM): ps, if jurs isn't a wolf (which I think she is) then she's most likely a blue.
DBP TWG (3:08:17 PM): Just so you know.
DBP TWG (3:08:26 PM): I talked to her a bit, and she seemed like she was hiding something.
DBP TWG (3:08:33 PM): If I find anything else out, I'll let you know.
DBP TWG (3:08:58 PM): I mean, you told me none of the wolves were on last night, and she was on, so I'm assuming she's a blue, but she seems to be acting like a wolf.
DBP TWG (3:09:06 PM): Anyways.
DBP TWG (3:09:21 PM): I'll use my power as best I can, and I'll let you know.
DBP TWG (3:10:20 PM): Are you there?
Fhqwhgads703 (3:10:29 PM): Yep
DBP TWG (3:10:33 PM): Alright..
DBP TWG (3:10:35 PM): Well, yeah.
DBP TWG (3:10:37 PM): just read what I wrote.
DBP TWG (3:10:45 PM): I'll leave you alone now since you obviously don't trust me at all.
Fhqwhgads703 (3:10:50 PM): k
DBP TWG (3:10:52 PM): I'll talk to tps tonight.
DBP TWG (3:10:53 PM): Peace.

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I sadly don't have the conversation with TPS, but I know I sent it to tass (or at least the highlights) and how reluctant he will be to verify that I don't know. He was against me posting all of this for whatever reason.

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Another thing, the fact that TPS didn't take me sending him that pm/the IM to the thread, saying 'DBP's a wolf, we should kill him' screams 'I'm a wolf, and we want you alive even if we don't entirely trust you.' And Since he decided to call me out AFTER I posted my suspicion list (thereby totally giving up on the fake TS facade) that just screams wolf even more.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Shash, I told you I was at a friends house and that's why I couldn't send them to you. Don't act like I just 'couldn't.'

I'll vote chardish to prevent phantoms, but it's TPS tomorrow.

[sertman]

Uh why wouldn't you have the TPS log?

If you have evidence that's THAT damning then you AT THE VERY LEAST save the log. If someone said that to me I'd post it in the thread IMMEDIATELY along with a vote. But you don't have it? Come on now. Either you're making it up or you screwed up big time, because I still don't believe he said that because its so out of character for him.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

then I screwed up bigtime. My computer gets used by quite a few people, and I usually just leave IMs open. If they get closed by someone else, there's not much I can do.

Actually, lynch me. I want to see how close my list was to being right.

[FoJaR]

chardish has been INSTALYNCHED.

humans, PMs by friday at 10PM EST, wolves by midnight

[FoJaR]

the fog has lifted.

"oh ****!" said sertman, in a squeaky kilga voice.

"Kilgamayan is dead!!!!"


Tasselfoot (Tasselfoot)
Mattc16 (Mattc16mcfc)
Shashakiro (Shashakiro)
DiscoBobbyParanoia (DBP TWG)
sertman (alextp1651)
CypherToorima (CypherToorima)
JurseyRider734 (imjurs)
talisman (stressreliefball)
Wilkin (Wilkini Evili)
iggymatrixcounter (Iggy911Mc)
Tps222 (Tps7910)
ivaluebet (ivaluebet)
FishFishRevolution (insanelikeafish)
16. ddrdanc3r55 (randumb lol)

14 players left.

day 4. you have until sunday at midnight.

[sertman]

Now I get the kilga voice? lmao =/

Ok we need to get the DBP/Tps thing sorted out now.