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Old 11-24-2010, 07:01 AM   #201
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Forum posts definitely shouldn't count towards vet status. Not many people like posting on forums and I personally don't consider them a part of the game.

I remember seeing a comment that "People could just whore 3Bil points in a couple days.". I loled because, don't you think if they are capable of doing that they deserve vet status anyway?
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:25 AM   #202
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so youre saying that if i wanted to be a vet, id haveta go whore songs to get the AAA's?
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Even I'm almost tempted to agree. However, after a little thought, I'm not convinced adding a skill factor would have the effect you two suggest.

Most people play the game repeatedly, gathering GTS and slowly improving their skill. Since that Vet threshold's scaled fairly low at a requirement of 4,500 points (with 5 points per AAA, 1 per FC), making the FCs they earn worth something as well as the few AAAs they can muster, most players would reach Vet as a function of natural game progression long before filling even a third of the skill point cap; simply because they'd simultaneously be earning points from GTS and time (and if they're really into the community, posts). This should become pretty evident if you look at all those stats I listed, but with a little more credit for their AAAs and FCs (since I didn't revise them). [example]

And once one gains Vet status, one wouldn't have to concern themselves with it again.

These "veteran points" should be a hidden part of the calculation. Rather than segregating players, it would encourage game involvement, becoming another piece of underground knowledge (adding depth to the game at the root of the community), and rewarding players for their accomplishments.

There's a very low incidence of new accounts belonging to players that are already very good at FFR in relation to those of people just starting. But adding these facets would allow those experienced accounts (e.g. Dragon Shot/Velocity) to gain the Vet status they deserve without having to grind the game for GTS, and even still without negatively affecting the inexperienced.

With this system, DS could realistically earn veteran on Velocity in fewer than two months.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:35 AM   #203
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Considering that the balance of features being awarded to veterans was previously being awarded to "Anybody that could cough up a couple bucks a month" I'm not really sure the bar should be that high, or complicated.
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:08 AM   #204
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The bar's lower than in the suggestion you previously made; and it uses already defined variables, so it should be simple to implement. I think my presentation made it harder to understand. If there's complexity, it's in balancing all the facets; though I think what I outlined works well enough.

Anyway, I'm done here.
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:03 AM   #205
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i beat almost all the cod games on veteran so that makes me a veteran

im glad ffr recognizes me as a veteran


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Old 11-25-2010, 12:08 AM   #206
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Not that our opinions are going to change anything but I think it would be cool to have one for the forum, one for the game, and one for join date. Adding the veteran status caused enough problems already though so it probably isn't changing any time soon.
This is the smartest post I've read in the entire thread.
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:27 AM   #207
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this entire thread is because people are upset they dont have a cool rank

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Old 11-25-2010, 01:40 AM   #208
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You can't suddenly change your joindate to 2007. That's that.
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:22 AM   #209
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at 2.7 bil. brb playing FFR for the first time in years
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Old 11-25-2010, 05:12 AM   #210
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Ha,Very close to the veteran status there
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:30 PM   #211
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I thought Veteran status would be for people who've been here a long, long time.
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:34 PM   #212
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I thought Veteran status would be for people who've been here a long, long time.
It is, amongst other things. But I personally don't think three years is long enough to be considered a veteran. I've seen people who have join dates as early as 2002. It should be pushed to five years... four at the least.
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:48 PM   #213
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I've seen people who have join dates as early as 2002.
You can probably count them on only one hand.
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:20 PM   #214
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Ahh, I'm just sulcking coz I want to be Veteran :'(
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:23 PM   #215
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I can think of.. Synthlight.
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:28 PM   #216
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It is, amongst other things. But I personally don't think three years is long enough to be considered a veteran. I've seen people who have join dates as early as 2002.
idk the specifics but I thought the forums were redone (switched from phpbb to vBulletin, I think?) in 03, so the earliest join date you could have had without modifying the date manually is like July '03.
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:50 PM   #217
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idk the specifics but I thought the forums were redone (switched from phpbb to vBulletin, I think?) in 03, so the earliest join date you could have had without modifying the date manually is like July '03.
I assume when they were switched, they transferred over the old profiles with the join date intact.
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Old 11-25-2010, 04:34 PM   #218
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^ Whoa.. March 2003 with 4 posts.

PS) And with all 3 support tokens?!

o_O Crazy support.
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Old 11-25-2010, 04:51 PM   #219
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I havn't read the whole thread so sorry if this has been posted already; i'm wondering how FFR is going to get some revenue now, now that subscriber funds are virtually going to be non existent?
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