10-1-2016, 10:21 PM | #201 |
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Re: TWG Turbo V: No One Pretends to be the Seer Game Thread
Well, I certainly am consistent at not reading properly.
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10-1-2016, 10:22 PM | #202 |
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Re: TWG Turbo V: No One Pretends to be the Seer Game Thread
It's okay, you did it guys, I'm stuck giving him a scum-lean too.
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10-1-2016, 10:24 PM | #203 | ||
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I don't think his push was that unwarranted, your response to my post directed at haku threw me off a bit
the reason I'm townreading shado is because as wolf in survivors that was cancelled, he came off as unfocused and almost flippant. Here are a few posts that stood out in particular Quote:
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but there's definitely a different feel between this game and that game. also this game and the past turbo, for what progress it made. he feels like he's looking for scum and like he's not just jumping around randomly
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10-1-2016, 10:26 PM | #204 |
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it wasn't even a defense though, it was in response to haku saying "shadow you're scary"
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10-1-2016, 10:28 PM | #205 | |
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"And yet it's only my fourth TWG on FFR, ans 6th online game ever" That would mean the loads of experience he had in "other sites and IRL" that he said he had in BOATS was at most 2 games deep on the forum side of the scale, at most. And if you ever read the logs from that game, you'll know he's either a prodigy or full of shit. Man was super comfortable running around in Discord, basically leading town for the majority of the game. In addition to, you know, claiming he had enough experience to not be considered a newb and knowledge of general strats Yeah |
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10-1-2016, 10:32 PM | #207 |
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So, what's "wolfy" here and what's "bad" ?
For me his play is just explaining his behavior, it's not justifying a vote. It's kind of like Charu picking a fight, but in a very different way. |
10-1-2016, 10:42 PM | #208 |
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I wish james may and dfr would actually show up
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10-1-2016, 10:42 PM | #209 | ||
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10-1-2016, 10:46 PM | #210 |
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I meant Haku's
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10-1-2016, 10:52 PM | #211 |
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I'm confused, you thought haku's defense of what was weak?
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10-1-2016, 10:56 PM | #212 | |
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10-1-2016, 10:57 PM | #213 |
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10-1-2016, 10:58 PM | #214 |
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Seemed like he was defending Shado.
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10-1-2016, 10:59 PM | #215 | |
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10-1-2016, 10:59 PM | #216 | |
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The most problematic thing about Shadow is that dishonesty is more wolfish than bad. Town is only ever motivated toward dishonesty as some sort of gambit, and that backfires as often as not. Wolves are dishonest structurally, so they'll lie elsewhere if they can benefit. Getting caught in a lie (for example, a fakeclaim) is usually a sign of a wolf, since town shouldn't be fakeclaiming (the seer stuff here not withstanding obviously). The quoted post above is problematic precisely because it speaks to experience--and comfort level with that experience. Mentioning epicmafia (and its community overmeta) so casually speaks to a level of familiarity that belies inexperience excuses. TL;DR: Mistakes are bad, deception is wolfish. Bad can be wolfish, but deception is wolfish with a high degree of correlation. |
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10-1-2016, 11:07 PM | #217 |
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arxyi who's your top lynch candidate atm
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10-1-2016, 11:10 PM | #218 | |
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Well now with Haku's post, I can see why Shado's reply was valid because it's similar behavior. But regardless he was still dishonest about experience. I was owning up to my mistakes. Deception is wolfish, Shado is my top lynch
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10-1-2016, 11:11 PM | #219 |
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this is giving me deja vu of that one game where haku lied about his experience, and he was town
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10-1-2016, 11:15 PM | #220 |
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this is giving me deja vu of that one game where Shado was Seer and I wanted to lynch him.
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