TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Why would it be gross though? Do you think your meta is outdated? That I would've been abusing it?

you'd be basing it on a game from last year that was super demoralizing to wolf in, so yeah

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Thought blind and Xel had wolf potential

Kirk posts were pure, Mellon and round were afk so those were my options. Thought haku was town for push on sunfan and other responses

Ended up on Xel because I thought his anger was fake and he wasn't following his push, whereas blind was town off tone and trying to push his scumread (yeti) even as he approached a lynch

would it be accurate to say xel leaving thread toward the end contributed to that?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Round followed by manti/Ind, very undecided on those two rn

I still think round should be given a chance.

Why are you and Manti, and any others as well, lumping round to the scummiest of scum?

Besides being pretty scattered (due to, *AHEM*, the irl he mentioned), what is there that makes him absolutely scummy?

[LightManticorex2]

Inactiveness and not adding to the game is scummy just in general.

Irl happens, but it can also be used as an excuse to wolf slank.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by LightManticorex2

Inactiveness and not adding to the game is scummy just in general.

Irl happens, but it can also be used as an excuse to wolf slank.

It's hard to tell because everything he's said so far about slanking is true and I can verify that he has had hardly any time until later today. Still though when he has been around his posts have been really *shruggie*. but he hasn't really had time to play properly so what do I expect?

He's super null for me. I do know that a confirmed wolf tried to falsely push me for inactivity though....

[LightManticorex2]

Too much to respond to for me to address it all on my lunch break.

Part of me wants to pass on most of it because replying to all this junk is eating into my scumhunting time.

[Charu]

eyeroll.avi

[Charu]

Why of course, holy glowing towny player. How dare us spread "junk" in your presence as it only hampers your scumhunting.

So sorry, really am, apologies.

[LightManticorex2]

If here's anything super pertinent feel free to line it up for me and I'll respond to it. I'm starting to feel like a lot of the points I'm arguing are getting rehashed and people are just ignoring it or reiterating their points while not accepting my responses..

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Charu

I still think round should be given a chance.

Why are you and Manti, and any others as well, lumping round to the scummiest of scum?

Besides being pretty scattered (due to, *AHEM*, the irl he mentioned), what is there that makes him absolutely scummy?

well i have one misgiving, which is he decided to iso you at a juncture i don't really understand other than to potentially discredit townreads you're getting

[LightManticorex2]

Originally Posted by Charu

Why of course, holy glowing towny player. How dare us spread "junk" in your presence as it only hampers your scumhunting.

So sorry, really am, apologies.

You are grating my nerves this game.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by LightManticorex2

You are grating my nerves this game.

Only the best for your majesty.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Charu

Only the best for your majesty.

Originally Posted by Charu

Disclaimer, if I start mocking, I'm not actually trying to hurt your feelings.

ty for understanding <3 <3 <3

..

[inDheart]

looking back at earlier posts reminded me of the potential blind-is-town slip manti made that a lot of us jumped on, which actually wrecks my mind a bit right now if they're wolves together

[Charu]

Originally Posted by inDheart

looking back at earlier posts reminded me of the potential blind-is-town slip manti made that a lot of us jumped on, which actually wrecks my mind a bit right now if they're wolves together

I highly doubt they're together.

blind showed no signs of fear about dying 30 minutes into EoD. Unless overly confident (which he's shown he can be before), or ignorant wolf, I don't think this is ever possible.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by inDheart

looking back at earlier posts reminded me of the potential blind-is-town slip manti made that a lot of us jumped on, which actually wrecks my mind a bit right now if they're wolves together

For fucks sake. I'm not a wolf. Manti and I have literally discussed these things in post games.

You were all talking about meta, and he's using mine to read me. Now it's irrelevant??? Ok.

I don't care what he is, he's right.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by inDheart

would it be accurate to say xel leaving thread toward the end contributed to that?

No, not really. Him being absent certainly didn't help but it was the interactions leading up to that that solidified me going for him over blind

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Charu

I still think round should be given a chance.

Why are you and Manti, and any others as well, lumping round to the scummiest of scum?

Besides being pretty scattered (due to, *AHEM*, the irl he mentioned), what is there that makes him absolutely scummy?

Him not doing anything pretty much

It's POE, I have a bunch of townreads and he hasn't done anything very towny

Ind/manti get a special section for mixed feelings that need further review

[AragakiAyase]

manti, for when you can, please respond to these posts

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

so results of the manti iso

pushes ind some for what he thinks is stream of consciousness posting as a wolf starting here



ends up backing off and coming to ind at null/slight town





(chronologically this is later but it's useful here)



agrees with my reads list with a few differences, the haku read is consistent from what was posted on darkmanticore where he thought haku was making excuses



more suspicion of haku



3 hours to EOD, says he's down for roundbox/haku and maybe ind



responds to haku outlining his read after haku votes him



more elaboration





30 minutes to EOD, says he feels blind vs xel is something that we're being pushed into, probably by wolves



4 minutes to EOD, here's his next mention of haku



he asks haku about what makes him change his stance on xel, keeps the vote

tldr

manti pushes ind early on, moves him to null/slight town, floats him as a distant lynch possibility. was suspicious of haku very early for excuses, goes back to pushing him on the later half of d1 (d0) up until 2.5 hours per day. when the blind vs xel fight really starts heating up during the last 1-1.5 hours of EOD, he doesn't say anything about haku, only a vague comment about how haku not being here is triggering him. I don't think you can really call this pushing a counter wagon to what you believe is t v t. would like to see manti's response to this

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Heading out to work

Manti posts are decent and I can sympathize with the charu read more. I'm curious why if you think blind is town though you think charu still doesn't look good from the EOD. The xel not being here as a reason for a push is one thing, but I don't see why it's a point against him if he's swinging back and forth between two people you think were town? I also did that at EOD, the blind and Xel exchange was swinging back and forth and my vote bounced a bit as well

Also comment on your read on me, I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to exert more pressure than I have been when people like Ind, round, Mellon, etc keep not showing up? I guess if you wanted me to do something like have a greater hand in pushing Xel/blind yesterday as an example I can see it, but meh

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

One more thing

Manti when you say that I feel a bit neutral on pushes, we're there any in particular you were thinking of?

to sum up what I don't like about you (both for your benefit and others):

I don't like how you claim that you wanted haku as an alternative to what you thought was t v t in blind v xel, but you push haku very little in the critical hours when xel and blind is heating up (namely last few hours before EOD).

I also don't like how your immediate response to charu/dbp pushing you is that they're wolves trying to mislynch you. first off, I think that's a very simplistic response and not one that I'd expect of a player with your reputation. now you say that you perceive yourself to be glowing town here:

Originally Posted by LightManticorex2

I think we're quibbleing over how people are interpreting me and how I'm interpreting myself.

I think I'm pretty glowing town. Doesn't mean you or anyone else agrees.

if you were glowing town, then maybe this reaction would be more reasonable. but it's apparent that no one perceives you as glowing town, and you even note that it's quite plausible here:

Originally Posted by LightManticorex2

Stop wearing you emotions on your sleeve then. Just because I poked you in the eye doesn't mean you should be unable to read.




I said I'd be ready to brand you two wolves because both of you keep floating my name up, but I can look at things from other viewpoints.

If AA, who is my top town ATM, thinks I'm a difficult read, then I don't expect you to have a correct read on me either. I just think your read is wrong.

As opposed to charu who's been fanning the fires you've been making quite well.

now the question is:

if you think it's reasonable that other people are having difficulty reading you, why is your first assumption to label dbp/charu as wolves trying to mislynch you, rather than potentially townies who are suspicious of you? and if you thought you were glowing town (I believe I asked this earlier), what do you think you've done this game that makes you glowing town/should be obvious to others?

[AragakiAyase]

will iso ind/haku before EOD but I need to take a nap