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  • Xx{Midday}xX
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 3518

    #1516
    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

    Originally posted by Xx{Midday}xX
    VB is not an FMO. Over the Frail Dream is not a VC.

    There are many easier FMOs than VB, but VB stays a VC. Same goes for OtFD. The situations are basically analagous.

    OtFD is borderline. There are always borderline songs in any level, and can be eternally disputed on opinion.

    I believe OtFD is C. I believe VB is FMO. Difficulty cannot be changed so constantly due to a tide of opinion. OtFD became C at the beginning after some dispute, and will stay a C. VB, with even more dispute, stayed VC and will stay a VC.

    Many people reason that OtFD would've been VC with avmiss. Without, it's a C. That's the logic.
    Respond to this, so it seems like you read before you posted instead of copy/pasting.
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    • foilman8805
      smoke wheat hail satin
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Sep 2006
      • 5704

      #1517
      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

      VB and Monstrous Turtles! are both VCs featuring 200+ BPM streams. Just thought it would be logical to include OtFD in that category too. But perhaps they are only VC for length? I dunno.

      Does anyone have any thoughts about Lapis? Breakdown, I know you said you were gonna go buy it and play it earlier. What did you think?

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      • Xx{Midday}xX
        FFR Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 3518

        #1518
        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

        Originally posted by foilman8805
        VB and Monstrous Turtles! are both VCs featuring 200+ BPM streams. Just thought it would be logical to include OtFD in that category too. But perhaps they are only VC for length? I dunno.

        Does anyone have any thoughts about Lapis? Breakdown, I know you said you were gonna go buy it and play it earlier. What did you think?
        Monstrous Turtles is a VC because of its stream pattern (which I completely disagree with. I believe Monstrous Turtles should be a C) more than its length. The streams aren't long at all.

        Even if VB was shorter, it would still be, or better stay a VC. The length should make it an FMO imo. VB isn't going to change anyway.

        As for Lapis, I don't really recall it that well... but based on the fact that I AAA'd it easily in my current state, I doubt it is a VC... (I know, terrible way to judge difficulty... but I can't play it right now.)
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        Accumulating all playstyles here!


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        • Patashu
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2006
          • 8609

          #1519
          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

          Originally posted by stavie33
          Rose is C, but patterns make it hard for most to PA
          BTW, I'm curious. Why does everyone seem to have problems with the patterns in Rose? The stream felt really nice and awesome for me. Something about it.
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          • Xx{Midday}xX
            FFR Player
            • Sep 2007
            • 3518

            #1520
            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

            Originally posted by Patashu
            BTW, I'm curious. Why does everyone seem to have problems with the patterns in Rose? The stream felt really nice and awesome for me. Something about it.
            I agree. {Rose} was one of the early files that had PR, if I remember correctly. The smooth patterns on my fingers left me quite an impression when I first AAA'd it.
            Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
            Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
            Accumulating all playstyles here!


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            • hi19hi19
              lol happy
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Oct 2005
              • 12194

              #1521
              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

              Originally posted by Patashu
              BTW, I'm curious. Why does everyone seem to have problems with the patterns in Rose? The stream felt really nice and awesome for me. Something about it.
              The 4243234 pattern seems to get a lot of people. I like it because it feels PR even though it's totally not.


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              • Xx{Midday}xX
                FFR Player
                • Sep 2007
                • 3518

                #1522
                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                Originally posted by hi19hi19
                I like it because it feels PR even though it's totally not.
                dag12 told me. just saying. <_< hence iirc.

                Oh, he says it has PR expression wise.

                It could be considered a form of PR... can't it? ;_; [/off-topic]
                Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 10-19-2008, 12:56 AM.
                Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
                Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
                Accumulating all playstyles here!


                つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

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                • bmah
                  shots FIRED
                  Profile Moderator
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  Global Moderator
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 8448

                  #1523
                  Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                  Lapis was originally a 10 but it's now bumped down to a 9. I think it's fairly straightforward, but then again, I stepped it.

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                  • Brilliant Dynamite Neon
                    nobody fiffers anymore.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 2440

                    #1524
                    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                    Since jimerax seems to have no time to update the topic post, I think we should compile all the unadded difficulty ratings of songs so that a mod can edit it into the main post. Some people rely on it, you know.
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                    • Breakdown16
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1938

                      #1525
                      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                      Lapis wasn't hard at all, pretty easy AAA. It's Challenging for sure (considering that we have much faster stream Challenging songs, such as {Rose}).

                      Edit: Also...

                      Originally posted by Brilliant Dynamite Neon
                      Since jimerax seems to have no time to update the topic post, I think we should compile all the unadded difficulty ratings of songs so that a mod can edit it into the main post. Some people rely on it, you know.
                      True. I get annoyed when I can't find info that I need.
                      Last edited by Breakdown16; 10-20-2008, 08:05 PM. Reason: I hate green tags.


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                      • stavie33
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1925

                        #1526
                        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                        Lapis could be a 10 (though I don't think so), if you push it, but I think it's just a solid 9, it is borderline, but yeah, it should only be a 9, if Lapis is 10 for jumpstream speed, then Over the Frail Dream should be 10 for sheer speed and stream length, so yeah, they're both 9's
                        It's getting better all the time
                        I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
                        The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
                        You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
                        Turning me round (Oh Oh)
                        Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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                        • Xx{Midday}xX
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3518

                          #1527
                          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                          Originally posted by Brilliant Dynamite Neon
                          Since jimerax seems to have no time to update the topic post, I think we should compile all the unadded difficulty ratings of songs so that a mod can edit it into the main post. Some people rely on it, you know.
                          Post a compilation instead of posting this <_<

                          If no one does it by November 17th, then I can do it =)
                          Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
                          Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
                          Accumulating all playstyles here!


                          つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

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                          • bmah
                            shots FIRED
                            Profile Moderator
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            Global Moderator
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 8448

                            #1528
                            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                            Oh wow, big props to whoever compiles that huge list. I'm too lazy-busy to compare song difficulties with one another.

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                            • blindreper1179
                              Vice President Of TGB
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 5901

                              #1529
                              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                              i'd do it if i had the time. =/
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                              • Brilliant Dynamite Neon
                                nobody fiffers anymore.
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 2440

                                #1530
                                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                                I would do it myself now, but I'd have to write everything down in a checklist then check off all the songs in the thread, and I don't have the time for that in class. I'll start when I get home.
                                ~ OFFICIALLY RETIRED FROM FFR THE GAME AND FFR TWG ~

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