Heroes - Page 10

Snowcrafta · 10-9-2007, 10:15 AM

My theory: The events of the first season of heroes, such as New York going up in flames from Peter, hasn't happened quite yet. From the 5 years later episodes then did from season one, I have a reason to believe that the chain of events hasn't come to yet. It shows Sylar killing Clair, giving him her indestructibleness.

And since the comic that Isaac drew shows Hiro stabbing Sylar, and the fact his paintings have all come true, must mean that it just hasn't happened yet. I still think that New York will exploded in either this season or the next.

**pokelda** · 10-9-2007, 11:09 AM

The whole show fell apart for me at the end of season 1 and the first 2 episodes of season 2. Never bothered watching again.

Oh and I can't be bothered to read 10 pages so

Snowcrafta · 10-9-2007, 01:12 PM

Might as well keep up with it, since popular culture makes you cooler

mead1 · 10-9-2007, 05:27 PM

I didn't like Claire's new boyfriend until the "spa debacle" line. Now he's cool.

tsugomaru · 10-9-2007, 06:36 PM

Maybe, but they made it look so recent. Then again, it could be just because Micah is making it sound that way. He's crying to see his father like it just happened when it really happened four months ago. =[

~Tsugomaru

**Squeek** · 10-9-2007, 07:54 PM

I don't think he's really dead. A gunshot wound to the kidney? That doesn't kill you. Parkman took four to his chest and he's fine.

I think it's an act, but I don't know why.

And Snowcrafta, your theory sucks. They did change the future. There's a bit of a plot hole involved though.

Future Hiro couldn't kill Future Sylar because he had Claire's abilities. Future Claire returned to existence only to die again. I guess the only thing that can be said is that Future Sylar is Present Sylar post-Kirby Plaza fight.

tsugomaru · 10-9-2007, 09:26 PM

What? That hardly makes sense? It's a possibility that the show could still head towards the glimpse of the future we saw. The future we saw shows that Claire was still alive and he stole her powers before he confronted Peter in the hallway. There are a lot of empty details that still need to be filled, but they were really flexible. The first major one has been explained. Even though Skylar was stabbed with a sword, he still managed to survive it having been nursed back to health by that illusion girl.

However, that's not to say I believe it. The writer of the story was not silly, he was trying to portray a message that the future is not set, why change it now?

If we were to use the "his paintings are always right" theory, my guess would be the pictures of destruction that we saw would be the things that present Hiro would see in his trip to the future. The only one picture that has been wrong up till now would be the explosion of New York, which was prevented. Another great thing to point out would be the painting that was most recently revealed to us where Mr. Bennet is dead and his daughter was kissing her boyfriend in the background. This clearly did not happen in the future Hiro visited because Mr. Bennet was alive and Claire had a different boyfriend. Perhaps this will be the second time the painted future can be changed.

~Tsugomaru

MarukuAntoni · 10-11-2007, 05:06 PM

like tsugomaru said, its possible for the heroes to change whatll happen in the future as portrayed by the paintings. new york didnt get destroyed. mr. bennet or someone is going to do something thatll prevent mr. bennet from dying.

**Squeek** · 10-15-2007, 09:04 PM

That was an intense episode. Wow.

So far, the best one in Season Two.

I'm still curious to see what Mrs. Pettrelli's power is. Mr. Pettrelli doesn't have one (or didn't know about it in his thirties as that's where the graphic novels place him), but they're in the group. That must mean something.

Seems like the Parkman family has a focus on mental power as daddy Parkman also has something like what Matt has.

Oh, and the monkey-see-monkey-do power? That's awesome.

GuidoHunter · 10-16-2007, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Squeek

Oh, and the monkey-see-monkey-do power? That's awesome.

I remember someone saying something about the only duplicate power we've seen is Kensei's/Claire's, but is this a duplicate of the Abilene waitress's power? I don't think we have quite enough to go on yet, but it's something to consider.

--Guido

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**Squeek** · 10-16-2007, 02:56 AM

I know Wikipedia isn't the top source on this, but they cite Charlie's ability as "Eidetic memory". People are calling Monica's ability "mimicry", "emulating", or the Wikipedia term "Photographic reflexes".

So far she can only do what she sees on television.

I should also mention that it's pretty obvious that this is totally unrelated to the Empathy that Peter has. Peter can borrow other people's abilities. Monica appears to be within the bounds of human limitations as of now. As an example, if she sees Nathan or West flying, she won't be able to fly.

PS - You missed Nathan / West.

PPS - The Graphic Novels are awesome, but they're starting to draw potential spoilers. If you don't want S2E5 spoiled, don't read chapter 54. It also hints at another ability pair, but with two people you don't even know yet.

**pokelda** · 10-16-2007, 09:40 PM

So I had the free time to catch up on heroes. It seems as though the storyline is trying too hard to "surprise" the viewers making it all too predictable and sometimes ridiculous. I also found the script for the little psychic girl to be a little too mature for the character and it really made me cringe. What made me even more annoyed is the fact that they added a more obligatory teen high school social/love drama story with Claire.

EDIT: I wish they would actually use foreign language that is above middle school level 3:

so yea, the show is still good but it really lost it's greatness

tsugomaru · 10-17-2007, 12:14 AM

Well, if Parkman has the same powers as his dad, he could potentially trap people in their thoughts in the future! Perhaps that's what happened and now, Parkman has to reverse it. Pretty neat.

~Tsugomaru

**Squeek** · 10-17-2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pokelda

EDIT: I wish they would actually use foreign language that is above middle school level 3:

so yea, the show is still good but it really lost it's greatness

Oh yeah, because Japanese is all the rage amongst American middle schoolers. Everyone knows it.

What, do you want a character to speak in clicks?

tsugomaru · 10-17-2007, 02:53 AM

Seriously, it's an American TV show, the level of difficulty they use with foreign languages will not matter because we wouldn't understand it anyways.

~Tsugomaru

**Squeek** · 10-17-2007, 03:41 AM

I understand Maya and Alejandro without subtitles. I also understand most of what Hiro & Ando say without the captions.

**pokelda** · 10-17-2007, 08:38 AM

Consider it a pet peeve of mine.

tsugomaru · 10-17-2007, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Squeek

I understand Maya and Alejandro without subtitles. I also understand most of what Hiro & Ando say without the captions.

Well, not all Americans can understand Spanish and Japanese. I can understand trace amounts of what they say only because I've watched some anime and I pick up some Spanish from my friends who are learning it at school. A lot of people do not watch Japanese animes that aren't dubbed or do not take a Spanish class.

~Tsugomaru

**Squeek** · 10-17-2007, 11:52 PM

By the way, something insignificant you might not have thought about.

The guy in prison with Maya and Alejandro. "His" car. It's clear it's not his. California plates? Nissan Rogue? Guess whose car it is.

PS - it's claire's car.

Also, I think based on the ticking Sylar hears and the roach on the brick, he's starting to get his abilities back.

Yeah, I watch every episode multiple times to make sure I work out these kinds of things. What.

tsugomaru · 10-18-2007, 01:01 AM

I already figured out whose car it was when I saw it in Mexico. It was you know, the same one as Claire's. I'm not even a car geek so for me to catch that is amazing.

My prediction: He won't get Wonder Twin's powers.

~Tsugomaru

10-9-2007, 10:15 AM	#181
Snowcrafta V's beta-male entourage Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boise, ID Age: 36 Posts: 2,873	Re: Heroes My theory: The events of the first season of heroes, such as New York going up in flames from Peter, hasn't happened quite yet. From the 5 years later episodes then did from season one, I have a reason to believe that the chain of events hasn't come to yet. It shows Sylar killing Clair, giving him her indestructibleness. And since the comic that Isaac drew shows Hiro stabbing Sylar, and the fact his paintings have all come true, must mean that it just hasn't happened yet. I still think that New York will exploded in either this season or the next. __________________

10-9-2007, 11:09 AM	#182
pokelda ⁽ ´ཀ`⁾ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: It is a mystery. Posts: 3,876	Re: Heroes The whole show fell apart for me at the end of season 1 and the first 2 episodes of season 2. Never bothered watching again. Oh and I can't be bothered to read 10 pages so

10-9-2007, 01:12 PM	#183
Snowcrafta V's beta-male entourage Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boise, ID Age: 36 Posts: 2,873	Re: Heroes Might as well keep up with it, since popular culture makes you cooler __________________

10-9-2007, 05:27 PM	#184
mead1 Cerebellumberjack Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On a boat Age: 33 Posts: 3,960	Re: Heroes I didn't like Claire's new boyfriend until the "spa debacle" line. Now he's cool.

10-9-2007, 07:54 PM	#186
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Heroes I don't think he's really dead. A gunshot wound to the kidney? That doesn't kill you. Parkman took four to his chest and he's fine. I think it's an act, but I don't know why. And Snowcrafta, your theory sucks. They did change the future. There's a bit of a plot hole involved though. Future Hiro couldn't kill Future Sylar because he had Claire's abilities. Future Claire returned to existence only to die again. I guess the only thing that can be said is that Future Sylar is Present Sylar post-Kirby Plaza fight.

10-11-2007, 05:06 PM	#188
MarukuAntoni mmmMMMmmm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: California Age: 36 Posts: 521	Re: Heroes like tsugomaru said, its possible for the heroes to change whatll happen in the future as portrayed by the paintings. new york didnt get destroyed. mr. bennet or someone is going to do something thatll prevent mr. bennet from dying. __________________ IF I CAN CLIMB A TREE, I CAN CLIMB MT EVEREST. IF I CAN DRIVE A CAR, I CAN PILOT A SPACE SHUTTLE. IF I CAN PEE, I CAN BE THE PRESIDENT. IF I CAN POO, I CAN RULE THE WORLD!

10-15-2007, 09:04 PM	#189
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Heroes That was an intense episode. Wow. So far, the best one in Season Two. I'm still curious to see what Mrs. Pettrelli's power is. Mr. Pettrelli doesn't have one (or didn't know about it in his thirties as that's where the graphic novels place him), but they're in the group. That must mean something. Seems like the Parkman family has a focus on mental power as daddy Parkman also has something like what Matt has. Oh, and the monkey-see-monkey-do power? That's awesome.

10-16-2007, 02:56 AM	#191
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Heroes I know Wikipedia isn't the top source on this, but they cite Charlie's ability as "Eidetic memory". People are calling Monica's ability "mimicry", "emulating", or the Wikipedia term "Photographic reflexes". So far she can only do what she sees on television. I should also mention that it's pretty obvious that this is totally unrelated to the Empathy that Peter has. Peter can borrow other people's abilities. Monica appears to be within the bounds of human limitations as of now. As an example, if she sees Nathan or West flying, she won't be able to fly. PS - You missed Nathan / West. PPS - The Graphic Novels are awesome, but they're starting to draw potential spoilers. If you don't want S2E5 spoiled, don't read chapter 54. It also hints at another ability pair, but with two people you don't even know yet. Last edited by Squeek; 10-16-2007 at 03:00 AM..

10-16-2007, 09:40 PM	#192
pokelda ⁽ ´ཀ`⁾ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: It is a mystery. Posts: 3,876	Re: Heroes So I had the free time to catch up on heroes. It seems as though the storyline is trying too hard to "surprise" the viewers making it all too predictable and sometimes ridiculous. I also found the script for the little psychic girl to be a little too mature for the character and it really made me cringe. What made me even more annoyed is the fact that they added a more obligatory teen high school social/love drama story with Claire. EDIT: I wish they would actually use foreign language that is above middle school level 3: so yea, the show is still good but it really lost it's greatness Last edited by pokelda; 10-16-2007 at 09:44 PM..

10-17-2007, 03:41 AM	#196
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Heroes I understand Maya and Alejandro without subtitles. I also understand most of what Hiro & Ando say without the captions.

10-17-2007, 08:38 AM	#197
pokelda ⁽ ´ཀ`⁾ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: It is a mystery. Posts: 3,876	Re: Heroes Consider it a pet peeve of mine.

10-17-2007, 11:52 PM	#199
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Heroes By the way, something insignificant you might not have thought about. The guy in prison with Maya and Alejandro. "His" car. It's clear it's not his. California plates? Nissan Rogue? Guess whose car it is. PS - it's claire's car. Also, I think based on the ticking Sylar hears and the roach on the brick, he's starting to get his abilities back. Yeah, I watch every episode multiple times to make sure I work out these kinds of things. What. Last edited by Squeek; 10-18-2007 at 12:21 AM..

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