Re: Song Corrections Thread
I really like this thread.
I only wish I could help implement it.
I really like this thread.
I only wish I could help implement it.
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Re: Song Corrections Thread
We hop on this project on and off whenever we have the liberty of sacrificing some free time. Altough what we're doing right now is consolidating our notes to make a proper draft, fetch all information we can on the artists, update them to the wiki, and hopefully make the song correction thread final and ready to be implemented.
We're also hoping to forward each artist redirection to their corresponding wiki page, that way information is centralized even though something goes down.
If you want to help, we can either send you entries by alphabetical letter so you can validate/improve the information to the best of your knowledge. Or you can simply do your own research and send us whatever you found.
Just saying hi19, this thread was a marvelous guideline to sorting out a proper format for classical music, so in a way you've already been contributing to this. ;PLast edited by Crazyjayde; 09-9-2014, 02:58 PM.Comment
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Every file that was in the main game and removed that I can think of:
Synesthetic (FFR Edit) [old version]
Chrono Trigger
FF7 Battle
Dub-I-Dub
Break Down!
In Da Club by 50 Cent
Afronova Primeval
Dynamite Rave
Put Your Faith in Me
Pwnd!
FFR Special Mix
Mr. Larpus by BanYa
Genesis One
Captain Jack
Let Me Be Your Pirate (has been re-added)
*Winning*
{Lazy Summer Days} gamma
Variations 2 gamma
Guitar Sounds gamma
Grist gamma
Speedcore 300 by Hypernite Industries
Undiscovered Colors [old version]
Whimper Wall (actual name: Unreal Superhero 2 by Rez, also called Unreeeal Superhero 2 or Unreal Superhero #2 or with varying capitalization, not sure what is proper)
Gigadelic
Miles Away by Years Around the Sun
Hyperactivity
Maxx Unlimited was hidden in the game too at one point, according to Dossar.
Don't have artist names for most of these, I'd have to go digging for that info on some of the songs.
Widgets are a whole other beast, probably best to separate them into another category if you're really interested in cataloging them too.Last edited by hi19hi19; 11-21-2014, 09:11 PM.
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I've always hated the use of "Pops" in the genres.
Band Dynamics : Pops -> Pop Punk
Chase You Down : Pops -> Alternative Rock
Lover Reef: Pops/Game Remix -> Pop
My Beautiful Rescue : Pops -> Indie Rock
Shut Up and Let Me Go ( w The Ting Tings) [Heavy] -> Pop Rock/Hip-Hop
Wow, I Can Get Sexual Too : Pops -> Pop Rock
Also, there's made up genres like Glittercore and Drumstep. Or at least they sound made up to me.
NameofSong : OldGenre -> NewGenre
Unshakeable: Drumstep -> Industrial Rock/Dubstep
And here's some just general stuff I personally think should be changed.
5 Black Skulls : Rock -> Emo Rock
Amity : Rock -> Emo Rock
Back in the Day : Hip-Hop -> Nerdcore
Beauty Is In the Eyes of the Beerholder [Heavy] : Heavy Metal -> Metalcore
BEER! : Rock -> Comedy Metal
Blooddrunk [Heavy] : Hard Rock -> Melodic Death Metal
Bricks : Rock -> Melodic Hardcore
Build God, Then We'll Talk [Heavy] : Punk Rock -> Baroque Pop Rock
Cash Cow : Punk Rock -> Post Punk
Comfort Betrays : Speed Metal -> Metalcore
Down With the Sickness : Heavy Metal -> Nu Metal
Eradication : Heavy Metal -> Deathcore
Fett's Vette : Hip-Hop -> Nerdcore
Floating Bridge : Hip Hop -> Nerdcore
Goodbye, My Love : Rock -> Emo Rock
Guitar Sound : Instrumental -> Progressive Electronic Rock
Hellhounds On My Trail : Heavy Metal -> Power Metal
I Can't Wait : Industrial -> Industrial Rock
Impulse : Instrumental Rock -> Progressive Instrumental
Inside The Fire [FFR Chart] -> Rock -> Nu Metal
Red Dress [Heavy] : Rock -> Emo Rock
Red Dress [Light] : Rock -> Emo Rock
Resistance : Heavy Metal -> Metalcore
Stay With Me (Unlikely) : Rock -> Industrial Metal
Stay With Me (Unlikely) v2 : Rock -> Industrial Metal
Straight to Video : Rock -> Industrial Punk Rock
Survive : Rock -> Melodic Hardcore
tetris [songstowearpantsto] : Hip-Hop -> Nerdcore
Victims and Martyrs : Rock -> Alternative RockComment
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Most subgenres are named fucking garbage. Like "emo" or "Screamo"
So drumstep ect being a thing doesn't surprise me given the shitty names people use all over the place.Last edited by XelNya; 01-9-2015, 12:59 AM.Comment
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@ hi19hi19 : Thanks for that list (I've missed your post somehow). Didn't know so many of them. I have kept widgets songs for later but they will have their own category.
@ Xtreme2252 : Thanks for those. There's this whole debate of made-up genres vs real genres. I think it would be quite useful to make a poll to see everybody's opinion on that. Anyway, if you're interested, I have made this side-project a while ago : http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=135078. I'll cast your votes in the "Others" column unless you want to participate.
^ Screamo is the prime exemple of a genre that's been misused to death (here and outside FFR). Along with grunge. And post-rock.Last edited by noname219; 01-9-2015, 01:13 AM.Comment
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Don't forget there's a heavy bias on people's knowledge of specific rock-related genres. Most users are not critical of other music genres because they probably aren't familiar with them, so it's important to note that bias. If there was to be a change for genres, it should change across the board, so I would like input from more than just metalheads please. That's simply my observations based on the feedback I hear on the particular songs that people are currently critical of.
People may also be surprised at what are "real" genres vs made up ones. You're probably thinking of commercially relevant genres, and if you choose to go that route, then you might as well give very sweeping generalizations on song genres (with exception to people's insistence on metal-specific genres it seems). Thirdstyle does something like this, but I find it very dull. Overall I find it hard to take "real" genres seriously, because "real" doesn't have a very defined boundary in the first place. "Real" as far as I can tell are the genres that people are familiar with, so this differs from user to user. Therefore, I am very dismissive of the idea of generalizing song genres - everyone has their own idea of what genres are legit or not.
That being said, I'll always take into consideration individual song genre corrections, so please keep them coming, but note that you're only as critical as the genres you know about.Last edited by bmah; 01-9-2015, 02:45 AM.Comment
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You're right but there's also the fact that the rock/metal bands that are being stepped are usually more well known than your average electronic producer hence more users will be able to pinpoint genres that are off.
Also, it might also depends on the people who defined the genres. I think Spitfire was helping for a bit and he's quite knowledgeable in electronic music subgenres.
I'm open to go specific (even if it's pushing a bit) and I'm not against made-up genres if they make sense with how they are used in music circles.
I disagree with this. I find "real" genres easier to recognise (as long as you know the musical characteristics of it and how they are used*) than made-up genres. Those can be interpreted in different ways depending on the listener, considerably more than "real" genres.Overall I find it hard to take "real" genres seriously, because "real" doesn't have a very defined boundary in the first place. "Real" as far as I can tell are the genres that people are familiar with, so this differs from user to user. Therefore, I am very dismissive of the idea of generalizing song genres - everyone has their own idea of what genres are legit or not.
* I'm going off-topic with this, but it's safer to go with "real" genres since they usually develop an agreed definition over years. When boundaries are pushed, that's when journalists and critics like to create buzzwords to describe the music. People that are interested in the evolution of music and how new subgenres are formed and recognised usually set themselves criterias to determine the "validity" of a genre. They usually revolve around those :
- if there's an agreed definition and if that definition is used consistently
- if it has developed its own characteristics
- if it's possible to trace its history
- if it's used in real life and music journalism
My point is that it takes more than one people to push the creation of "real" genres (with rare exceptions like plunderphonics for example). The genres are recognised by people because they are consistent in their usage.
So like I said, if a made-up genre makes sense with the song and in relation with other genres, I'm alright using it.Last edited by noname219; 01-9-2015, 03:17 AM.Comment
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If you care to comb through FFR's vast library of songs, feel free to make a list and we can go over it.Comment
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I took the decision to move the list of changes into the wiki. I will put them in the comments and make edits on articles if necessary. This will be done to make the list of corrections editable by everyone and easier to maintain.
The op of this thread will need an update (I'll try to do that tonight and tomorrow) because some standards/guidelines have changed. And since my efforts have been focused on the wiki lately, some of the sections are now obsolete. Once the guidelines are updated, I will ask for the staff to verify the moot cases and if they need any modifications.
The corrections will also be reviewed again by me and (hopefully) Crazyjayde so they conform with the new standards. There's no ETA for a completed list but I'll focus on the project as much as I can.Last edited by noname219; 03-26-2015, 10:22 PM.Comment
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Re: Song Corrections Thread
Metro by Terminal 11 is actually No Time For Sleep. Metro is the track that comes directly after in the album.
Yet a lot of places are listing No Time For Sleep as only around a minute long.Comment
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That youtube upload is missing "Disorder (Intermission1)" and because of that all the tracks after that are one track ahead. Metro is correct.Comment
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That's true, but I also have the album including Disorder (Intermission1) and No Time For Sleep is the music file that sounds like what currently is Metro on FFR.
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I have it too, mine has matching track durations and Metro is the same as the one in the game. You're missing the last track by the way.
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My mistake then, sorry. The youtube video and my files in the album are wrong then.Comment
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