jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream - Page 10

who_cares973 · 08-4-2018, 02:39 PM

Syhto what is your thought process during first days in other games? How do you go about solving?

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by who_cares973

Nothing I just like his reason for not posting a lot. I never said I was confident that charu was town anyway.

Why did you word the question like that knowing that, even if I was joking, I had been calling him a wolf the entire game so far?

You did call him a wolf, but let's be honest here. Red checks doesn't happen D0 and it cannot count as a serious accusation because it's around your entrance.

So, yeah. I don't consider this you really calling him out as a wolf.

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 02:43 PM

Your entrance with Charu is like the basis of why I think you two are suspicious.

Knowing there's a day chat for wolves also increase that odd.

who_cares973 · 08-4-2018, 02:44 PM

Sure that's fair but you didn't explain why you phrased your question the way you did.

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by who_cares973

Sure that's fair but you didn't explain why you phrased your question the way you did.

It can be read as you covering your wolf partner by reading him like a wolf, but as a joke.

At same time, based on what happened. I think you're soft clear.

Charu probably realized that too.

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 02:51 PM

Actually, it's possible you just took a risk depending on the setup.

Okay, I guess you're not necessary clear.

who_cares973 · 08-4-2018, 02:52 PM

But why did you ask me specifically why I felt confident charu was town when I never indicated that I thought he was town. All ive said is that his post about not talking so much to give others a chance made me feel better about him.

who_cares973 · 08-4-2018, 02:53 PM

I'm not following what you're saying now

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 02:57 PM

Read your entrance with Charu and as if you're both wolves.
Assume you're faking a red check to lure a potential cop.
Assume the lack of commitment leaves you room to back off from the joke claim.

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 02:59 PM

This can be done if one of you two roll wolf roleblocker and go like "we should try to get rid of cop or doctor somehow".

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 03:09 PM

After this point I was like;

WV wouldn't risk doing this because the real cop would check him in the night and he would be rip, but there's also a setup where there's only one more VT.

So, either there's a wolf role that locks the game or you're just memeing to paint a target on your back.

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 03:17 PM

Note that all of the above doesn't really matter in theory because that "red check" post isn't a verified claim etc.

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 03:23 PM

Anyway, the conclusion is that WV is most likely town because it's too risky to do what he did as a wolf.

I paired Charu with him because the interactions felt like they could be together, but it's likely I'm just misreading a T/T.

I feel like wolf Charu would want to keep his options open here, but I could be wrong.

Pushing FG/Syhto feels more safe mechanically speaking because of this.

I'm just a little weirded out by how it went so far.

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 03:28 PM

Speaking of FG vs Syhto, they don't feel like they would be W/W based on them voting each others and having fairly different stances.

I guess that makes me concerned that it's likely there's a wolf in jessie/yoandri/Anti-Pearl/NinjaSM. (well, okay, I just named half fo the player list)

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSM

See I think Charu is definitely trying to bait cop check

I mean, there's nothing wolfy about this in theory.

It can make wolves miss their night kill.

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSM

wv asking why im thinking about roles is pretty suspicious

There's not much to talk about unless someone says something really weird.

You could have just said; "WV, why are you asking me about roles?"

Anti-Pearl · 08-4-2018, 03:44 PM

First day phases are usually like that. It really doesn’t help that I’ve only played a game with Charu and hosted one with Haku and WV

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 03:49 PM

Well, first phase is about what's worth solving first.

It's likely we have some opinions about this by now.

Anti-Pearl · 08-4-2018, 03:55 PM

Mhm, like personally I don’t believe it’s worth solving Charu’s read first

**Hakulyte** · 08-4-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pearl

Mhm, like personally I don’t believe it’s worth solving Charu’s read first

Why and what else then?

08-4-2018, 02:39 PM	#181
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Syhto what is your thought process during first days in other games? How do you go about solving? __________________

08-4-2018, 02:43 PM	#183
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Your entrance with Charu is like the basis of why I think you two are suspicious. Knowing there's a day chat for wolves also increase that odd. __________________

08-4-2018, 02:44 PM	#184
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Sure that's fair but you didn't explain why you phrased your question the way you did. __________________

08-4-2018, 02:51 PM	#186
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Actually, it's possible you just took a risk depending on the setup. Okay, I guess you're not necessary clear. __________________

08-4-2018, 02:52 PM	#187
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream But why did you ask me specifically why I felt confident charu was town when I never indicated that I thought he was town. All ive said is that his post about not talking so much to give others a chance made me feel better about him. __________________

08-4-2018, 02:53 PM	#188
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream I'm not following what you're saying now __________________

08-4-2018, 02:57 PM	#189
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Read your entrance with Charu and as if you're both wolves. Assume you're faking a red check to lure a potential cop. Assume the lack of commitment leaves you room to back off from the joke claim. __________________

08-4-2018, 02:59 PM	#190
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream This can be done if one of you two roll wolf roleblocker and go like "we should try to get rid of cop or doctor somehow". __________________

08-4-2018, 03:09 PM	#191
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream After this point I was like; WV wouldn't risk doing this because the real cop would check him in the night and he would be rip, but there's also a setup where there's only one more VT. So, either there's a wolf role that locks the game or you're just memeing to paint a target on your back. __________________

08-4-2018, 03:17 PM	#192
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Note that all of the above doesn't really matter in theory because that "red check" post isn't a verified claim etc. __________________

08-4-2018, 03:23 PM	#193
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Anyway, the conclusion is that WV is most likely town because it's too risky to do what he did as a wolf. I paired Charu with him because the interactions felt like they could be together, but it's likely I'm just misreading a T/T. I feel like wolf Charu would want to keep his options open here, but I could be wrong. Pushing FG/Syhto feels more safe mechanically speaking because of this. I'm just a little weirded out by how it went so far. __________________

08-4-2018, 03:28 PM	#194
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Speaking of FG vs Syhto, they don't feel like they would be W/W based on them voting each others and having fairly different stances. I guess that makes me concerned that it's likely there's a wolf in jessie/yoandri/Anti-Pearl/NinjaSM. (well, okay, I just named half fo the player list) __________________

08-4-2018, 03:44 PM	#197
Anti-Pearl FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2018 Age: 24 Posts: 1	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream First day phases are usually like that. It really doesn’t help that I’ve only played a game with Charu and hosted one with Haku and WV

08-4-2018, 03:49 PM	#198
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 35 Posts: 4,527	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Well, first phase is about what's worth solving first. It's likely we have some opinions about this by now. __________________

08-4-2018, 03:55 PM	#199
Anti-Pearl FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2018 Age: 24 Posts: 1	Re: jTWG LXXXII Game Thread Almost mellon_collie's Dream Mhm, like personally I don’t believe it’s worth solving Charu’s read first

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