09-26-2016, 06:06 PM | #41 |
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Re: TWG CLVIII: Survivor Valais
Hyyyyyyype!
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09-26-2016, 06:20 PM | #42 | |
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Re: TWG CLVIII: Survivor Valais
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That's like a free green peek every day with no risk or dependency on a role and essentially forces the wolves to kill the cleared players. Feels like it'd be super hard to win this as a wolf if this is how it works and makes it so you wouldn't WANT to be declared lynchproof. I think it'd be an okay mechanic as long as wolves can get it too.
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09-26-2016, 06:26 PM | #43 | |
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So assuming Random.org isn't kind to us a scum could get this. At least, I hope so or else you're right it's super broken Basically Survivor here means player, not green. I can see why it's confusing though. Last edited by MixMasterLar; 09-26-2016 at 06:28 PM.. |
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09-26-2016, 06:28 PM | #44 |
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Re: TWG CLVIII: Survivor Valais
This too. Wolves have to be in this pool or else Survivors can get up to 3 clears per day. That's imba.
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09-26-2016, 06:36 PM | #45 | |
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MML, wolves can't be included because it only lists it under the survivor role pmband doesn't mention it in the wolf one. This isn't actually as bad as you think, because survivors have no incentive to out their role to clear their name. Remember that you lose if you die as a survivor, so outing your role/clearing yourself will just make you lose by nightkill instead of by lynch.
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09-26-2016, 06:42 PM | #47 |
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Re: TWG CLVIII: Survivor Valais
From a utilitarian standpoint, survivors should all out every day because that's 5 living clears by D2, and 7 at D3 to ensure max surviving non-scum players by the end, but it'd be easy to fakeclaim in the madness if that happened.
Survivor wincon is lasting the game though, so outing isn't really smart from an individualist perspective.
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09-26-2016, 06:53 PM | #48 | |
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Just reread the OP. It's under gift roles in the main rules section. I really think he means players and not green. Anyway if Arnt will clarify that'll be cool. And also if we have the players let's try and start the game tonight |
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09-26-2016, 07:27 PM | #49 |
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Re: TWG CLVIII: Survivor Valais
If you out yourself in this game, would that count as gamethrowing because your win-con is to stay alive too? That would make the game a lot harder for Survivors.
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09-26-2016, 07:38 PM | #50 |
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No lol I'm sure we'll see many a case of people outing in order to stay alive
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09-26-2016, 07:41 PM | #51 |
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Lol I've gone over his setup countless times in votethread and here. It's listed twice, once under main rule and once again under the role description for "Survivor", but no mention of it is made under the wolf description. I hope you're right though, and yours is the simplest fix anyways even if you aren't.
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09-27-2016, 01:37 AM | #52 | |
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And yes, wolves can't get gift roles since they have wolf chat and a factional kill on top of being able to get the lynchproof title. It's not like hard-claiming a gift role could help you much anyways. And as a final note, yes Survivor's lose if they die at any point, but bad gameplay won't be punished due to way the setup is designed. Anyways, I'll try to get the game thread going. Signups are closed now, unless you'd like to be a replacement then PM me. |
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09-28-2016, 03:33 AM | #53 |
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So I still have to fakevote, huh? Okay then:
HIYAH! D1 GUTREAD SHOT FROM THE HIP AT HAKULYTE!!
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09-28-2016, 03:35 AM | #54 | |
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"wolves can't get gift roles" "it's not like hard-claiming a gift role could help you much anyways" ???
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09-28-2016, 03:35 AM | #55 |
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Re: TWG CLVIII: Survivor Valais Signups
I pointed out in the signup threads that three green reveals per day is imba as hell. If that's the case wolves stand no chance in this game.
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09-28-2016, 03:37 AM | #56 |
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Oh god this is the signups thread.
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