TWG 150: Undertale

[TWG Undyne]

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

at this point, i'm more at less getting last minute reactions before my flip since all my opinions are just gonna get ignored anyways until after the flip. monsters should have an easy time figuring out the rest of the humans, since alphs is one of them as well as napsta.

What I take from this is while the posts he was making the phase he died were absolutely about getting the wrong opinions in everyone's head, even his reads list was made very conscious that it would come under scrutiny very soon.

These are the reads he made about the potential red pool, in ascending order of how hard he's bussing if they are red:

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

Mad Dummy - person doesn't like me. i get it, i'm not doing what he thinks i should be doing. figures im cornered... i think it was him that started saying that. the only corner i'm stuck in though is being on the top left of my post. it's very cramped there, but whats a skeleton gonna do about it? as for what i think? meh, he's still the one instigating folks and thats all the reason to not really look at the dummy. he's probably a monster like me

"I'm not doing what he thinks I should be doing" is definitely a thing that would make sense if Dummy is their partner, because it's possible Dummy is not satisfied with the way Sans is dealing with pressure/not making reads up until this post.

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

Papyrus - not much content and has been very blunt on what he thinks. as my own bro, surprised at his lack of energy. oh well, guess that's what happens when you run around the underground for 9000 laps. he's a big null and i do like mettaton's input on him. other than that, its eeeeeh... he's just there, but more so than our resident dog.

Probably the lowest content read out of anything here. Kind of confusing, as well - he says that he likes Mettaton's input on him, but that's SUPER weird. Because this is the only post I can find about Papyrus from Mettaton:

Originally Posted by TWG Mettaton

I like papyrus (lol) and alphys so far

So he likes that Mettaton likes Papyrus, yet his read is "a big null"? None of those events seem to follow one another...

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

Tsunderplane - eeh... i kind of feel you've been falling off my monster pole. you seem to be... just following what's on the plate at the moment and going with it. you're expanding, but i think you're latching at the same time. or it could just be due to you having you read me as monster to human in less than a day by a paranoid dummy. i'm watching you plane-a-nator.

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

Napstablook - the very instant this phase started our friendly ghost made a post that caught my attention tenfold. let me quote it for everyone.

and then

first of all, why you even questioning if this was an attempt at a blue kill? that in itself should be one of those questions you should refrain from. could cause some discomfort to some players who may or may not be good at keeping their feelings in check.

and then there's the bedsheet going and voting me after someone called me out of my end of phase vote. its just... i don't get it. did you hope that perhaps you'd get traction off of me with this? well, it worked, but nah, it's probably gonna fail now once i do this.

you watching?

you see that post? because wow, what swayed you to go after undyne suddenly? what even is happening there? i'm with the dummy with this, what in the world is going through your head to vote her? because as far as i can tell, you've posted nothing providing as such.

...heh, hyprocritical of me considering i've been lazy on purpose (and character, shh), but still...

...we have a post like this when so sorry gets called out when your previous post. what the fuck...

So here Sans absolutely lays into Napsta. I actually think these points are the most valid out of any out of this entire reads post - he switches off of a human wagon and onto me, a sort of half-wagon that never took off, without any reasoning. The first phase his vote was on town, but I can see this potentially being a bus, given D1 votes were all off the mark and top two wagons D2 were scum.

Napsta quotes Sans's "nice case" post and this is his response:

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

thanks, i dusted it off myself

or was it paps?

...

i forget

Sans was actually namedropping Pap even when it wasn't obvious he was going to die, not just in his deathpost. Sick trickery, dude.

I was hoping I'd have some conclusions after writing this many words, but I don't. More words to come.

[TWG Alphys]

Has Napsta said anything about So Sorry?

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

Has Napsta said anything about So Sorry?

Yes.
but I mean what is there to really say?

[TWG Alphys]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Yes.
but I mean what is there to really say?

Would explain why you'd switch off of Sans to Undyne rather than So Sorry. Have to look for your post now

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

Would explain why you'd switch off of Sans to Undyne rather than So Sorry. Have to look for your post now

Maybe if there was..oh I don't know..an actual reason to vote for Sorry other than their white-noise-saying-a-lot-without-actually-saying-much-of-anything posting style?

[TWG Mettaton]

in addition to sans being scummy, a lynch on him might not be that bad since it gives us info regarding his abrupt voting patterns last EoD

the 2/2/2 wagon setup is incredibly volatile and I think unraveling the strange votes (alphys but I'm reading her town, sans, and Undyne) can give us a lot of information

[TWG Alphys]

that isn't a reason for you?

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Alphys

that isn't a reason for you?

not reason enough I suppose, considering the sketchy vote swapping at eod yesterday what Sorry is being looked at for is trivial.

[TWG Sans]

hey fam

[TWG Alphys]

even a little enough to even consider? lmfao

[TWG Sans]

so if im reading right, you all want me gone because i haven't done anything

man... its hard being lazy

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

so if im reading right, you all want me gone because i haven't done anything

man... its hard being human

ftfy

[TWG Sans]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

ftfy

your'e going strictly by meta, right?

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

your'e going strictly by meta, right?

Strictly might be the wrong word, but its the main part

I don't understand your vote change in that I don't see the progression leading up to it.

[TWG Sans]

anyways, ask away, im here for the remainder

[TWG Mettaton]

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

anyways, ask away, im here for the remainder

reads

[TWG Sans]

Originally Posted by TWG Mettaton

reads

yeah, sure thing, let me just pull out my notebook

[TWG Mad Dummy]

you agreed with me that doggo was the best lynch, then asked about what someone thought about MK, then agreed that it seemed like MK wasn't doing anything, it doesn't lead me to you voting for MK, OR holding your vote for that long. It makes no sense for you to hold it until the end like you did

[TWG Muffet]

Oh hey sans is here, please give us anything that's game related.

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I'll be real
I think killing doggo is maybe our best bet since they haven't done jack shit

back to roleplaying as the dummy

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

yep, but i'll wait for a few

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

what do you think of the kid?

Originally Posted by TWG Mettaton

claims to have reads, claims to be doing work, but zero substantiation, and even worse, is dangling it in front of our faces like we're the ones that are wrong

however that is really, really stupid wolf behavior

well, really stupid behavior in general, but particularly bad wolf behavior

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

you can say...

...he doesn't have a grasp on what to do

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

i believe at that point in time, it was a vote for the pup to say their words.

looks like it didn't work.

unless you think there was hidden intent in that short post?

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

have you rp'd with him?

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

come on bro, you certainly didn't throw a bone at this phase

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

hey gang, nice to see you here when its less than... uh... 2 mins

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

monster kid

Originally Posted by TWG Sans

he didn't explain reads

I see 0 posts detailing any reason for you to not vote before then, for you to vote for monster kid over doggo, or for you to vote monster kid for the reason you claim, ie, not giving reads. Yeah there was your agreement with Mettaton, but you didn't try to rally votes, you didn't make a case, you just tossed out a vote with 1 minute left with virtually no reasoning that would not have mattered unless Alphys voted with you.