04-28-2011, 04:51 PM | #61 | |
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Re: So let's talk about QED stepfiles. (Let's talk about StepMania actually.)
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I mean, you know that what I 'prepare' for him is basically stuff he can easily do by himself, or rather, stuff he did by himself for a very long time already before I met him. One of the reasons why I am doing this now instead of him is basically just the fact that I have by far more time than he does since he has a very busy real life outside of SM. So helping him with that just makes him able to release files a bit faster and I honestly don't see a problem with that. Have you probably thought about the possibility that it was Jousway who PM'd him before? |
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04-28-2011, 04:58 PM | #62 |
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Re: So let's talk about QED stepfiles. (Let's talk about StepMania actually.)
So, since this thread is still active and getting responses, I'll just post it here, instead of making a thread:
I was thinking about a whole new Stepmania community, like ODI is/was back in the days. I know we have both KBO and FFR, but a full community, centered only on Stepmania, from playing to stepping, would be cool to gather new and old people. A place where we could discuss everything about this game we play, and come up with "solutions" to keep Stepmania alive and make it more popular, bringing even more people. I don't care if we are going to have pad files, keyboard files, anime files, just a place for Stepmania, with subforums for each file "category". I hope this post doesn't get ignored, even if it gets a "well, not happening" reply. |
04-28-2011, 05:23 PM | #63 | |
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I agree, back in the days when ODI was active was the best period for me as a sm player |
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04-28-2011, 05:31 PM | #64 |
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I'm also supporting Shikaris idea. It feels good to see, that I'm not the only one who had this idea in mind
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04-28-2011, 05:33 PM | #65 | |
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I don't know, maybe a fresh start for Stepmania community is what we're missing, and who knows how big our community can grow with a new place to focus and hang out. |
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04-28-2011, 07:25 PM | #67 |
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Awesome, thanks for that thorough response.
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And anyway, an accepted stepfile for a song is probably a repeat of a stepfile that was perhaps better than it, but that particular stepfile just didn't get a lot of attention and went under the radar. Many of the files you'd defend as the "files that were already really good" for a particular song could in fact be files that are repeats themselves, so I'm not quite sure I understand the background behind this argument either. There are tens of thousands of songs on Stepmania.com; ignore the ones you don't have interest in. Quote:
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04-28-2011, 10:29 PM | #70 |
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There is no way you're a member from 2006 and you have this one post. Your avatar is very generic and it looks like you googled Stepmania and put it now. I don't think that icon was made in 2006 anyway, but that's aside from the point.
I did this once myself. Change the name (or keep it) of an inactive member that obviously will never use their account and keep it for myself. Is this a staff member? Very sketchy, but only opinion. |
04-28-2011, 10:33 PM | #71 | |
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04-28-2011, 10:33 PM | #72 |
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i'm a member from 2004 and i made my first post today so not quite sure what that was all about lmfao
also, this thread is epic, i agree with everything gundam-dude said everyone go read gundam-dude's post it is extremely insightful |
04-28-2011, 10:45 PM | #73 |
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I'll hold you like a DJ_Ossa simfile (see if anyone remember this)
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The problem is, and I will stand by it, he was incapable of answering some questions, even the ones I didn't ask. I would have a been a lot more considerate if he would have addressed that he is one of many steppers, and that no style is correct. But he made a point that you don't need to be technical, and it only makes sense that criticism will come along. Just like any argument, you need to address the counter arguments that may come at you. I don't appreciate the representation he made of SM, as if he was the only one that knew what to do. I asked him specifically what other communities may help me, and he said something along the lines of "there are some out there, not really sure." You, QED, and I are well aware of what we say and what intentions we have in phrasing certain answers. For him to continuously present his email and youtube was a bit narcissistic. Even simple things like the program should have been credited. He didn't create the program, so what's the fault in saying "go to stepmania.com if you want to know more about the program" or something similar? I have a lot of issues in the way he conducted, all excluding the approach and organization (which I could go on for hours about). But plagiarism is never a good thing, whether intentional or unintentional. It's something you learn when you create your first history report in middle school (not meant to belittle yours or QED's intelligence, just a general statement). It's not accepted in music, literature, art, or any other expressive outlet of creativity. It's based on the ethics that taking credit for someone else's work is immoral. Whether or not it's right, we could debate for years. But the fact is if he wouldn't like someone taking credit for his work, then the same should apply. I don't mean simfiles, I mean programs, progress over the years in simfile creation, leaving out important information about communities, disregarding questions about pads because they don't interest you, etc. This is where I have issues, and I'm going to stand by them. Quote:
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04-28-2011, 10:50 PM | #76 | |
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But no, seriously, it's subjectivity at its finest points. All files have their merit to someone, whether it's the creator or someone else around them. Opinion: many simfiles that get rejected from packs, get done so because they appear unpolished and/or incomplete due to technical/stylistic reasons. |
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I love my laptop and I have sex with it everyday. Also, I love my girfriend, who's really hot btw roflowned.
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Why would he do that
In fact, I could say what you're saying for everything else. "There's no way DossarLX ODI on omgdidinsane.com could be Dossar now especially since he couldn't possibly have an alt!" - And that was an imposter, by the way |
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Re: So let's talk about QED stepfiles. (Let's talk about StepMania actually.)
-when I say QED is taking away from established simfile authors, I mean taking away what they should think a good stepfile is. by being exposed to QED's simfiles first, combined with his manipulations of how his simfiles are really good, it creates a person that sees established, legitimately good simfile author files and thinks they are somehow bad in comparison. they should be playing other simfiles, really, nearly any other simfile besides things that QED makes because it sets them off on the wrong foot from step one.
-people that restep and release files for the attention. releasing files is fine, restepping files that have already been stepped to the satisfaction of the community and releasing them is being an attention whore in my opinion. example 1) over the ocean by Malice. it's been stepped here on FFR, by Puppet, and by dondon151. Malice's version was the first, and probably the best one (opinion). Yet, it was stepped on three different occasions with little true success. example 2) shind bad by pfx. besides the countless nobodies that have restepped this on bemanistyle and the ffr simfile database, Dew was the only other person to have restepped this with any sort of true replay value, and only by making it nine billion times harder and making it strictly a scoring file to be played for difficulty only with little emphasis (if any) on fun. Typically, most files that are stepped don't get resteps. There are exceptions where the resteps are a welcome change, case in point Cross Time (originally stepped by Laggy) was restepped again later by chodasaibaka in the Dark Chancellors Pack and was looked on with generally favorable reviews, citing the difficulty change and new stepping style was refreshing. Stepmania most definitely has a 'this is the level for this song', its called the foot rating/groove radar/number rating. There are quite a few established systems I still know of, including the DDR rating system both before 10 footers were released, after true 10 footers were released (MAX300 and the like), and the current DDR rating system which goes into the 20s I believe? There also is the ITG rating system which typically goes up to 15-16? There is also the legacy Stepmania difficulty rating system which more or less was decided roughly by the community (anything 10+ was typically for keyboard with some exceptions, 9 and below was for pad), and the newer Dark Chancellors difficulty rating system which went up to 10 I believe and was only for keyboard files. Also Stepmania came before FFR, its hard to say it didn't have structure before the game that it was based off of. -defining good is defined by the community at large. if I was to take a poll of the entire active stepmania community, most would agree that in the very least, QED's files are either bad, misled, need improvement, are not keyboard files, etc. You really should go download his simfiles and test them out for yourself. Because you've been exposed to good files already, it should be okay to expose you to QED files. Regardless, the opinion you form of them is your own and even if you like them, it (while angering me) will not make me care too much in the long run, as the majority are steadfast in opposing the kind of ideals QED stands for when he speaks and makes simfiles.
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